Visorless Cyclops

[Exploding Boy]

I think its the jacket aspect that I dont really like

 

[TheCorpulent1]

But the Quitely one doesn't really fit in with the other costumes of the team

It's black/dark blue and yellow. It fits with every standardized X-Men costume ever. Among the AXM cast specifically, it fits with Kitty's, Beast's, and Wolverine's. Besides which, who cares if it "fits" with the rest of the costumes? The whole point of the new costumes in AXM--as given by Cyclops himself, I believe--is to make them fit the superhero mold. What superhero team besides the original (and apparently unsuperheroic) X-Men ever actually had matching costumes?

 

[ShadowBoxing]

When did they do the male prostitute bit. He was with Jack of Diamonds when he left the orphanage and Xavier came for him not to long after that. Xavier rescued him from Jack. So when could this have occurred.

It's entirely fan generated for the most part. It is how most fans explain and yet to have been explained 3 years of his life. In the Children of the Atom they clean up the story a bit. But if you go strictly by continuity storylines he leaves the orphanage at 13/14 and then re-appears with Jack at 17. So there is this 3 year gap where supposedly he lived on the streets. However it has never been stated he was prostituting himself. However the fact that he was a "virgin" for so long while on the X-Men and seemingly uncomfortable around women is what causes people to think this.

 

[The Question]

Oh. I thought there was more of a hint than that. My bad.

 

[Dr.Doom]

ARE THEY CHANGING HIS NAME?

-DOOM

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, to "Biclops." "Guy with nothing special about his eyes to make a pun out of" was deemed too cumbersome.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Oh. I thought there was more of a hint than that. My bad.

Yeah not much. Although he was certainly sexually repressed as he admits himself to Rusty the first time he "did it" to Jean was in Uncanny X-Men 132.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

How does being sexually repressed turn into his being a male prostitute in his youth?

 

[The Question]

Yeah not much. Although he was certainly sexually repressed as he admits himself to Rusty the first time he "did it" to Jean was in Uncanny X-Men 132.

Of course, that could simply mean that he was kind of dorky as a kid and got nervous around girls easily.

How does being sexually repressed turn into his being a male prostitute in his youth?

.....comic book fans are perverts, maybe?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I wouldn't say "dorky" so much as overachieving. He's a very disciplined guy, so he probably just did his best to tune out his burgeoning sexuality and focus on sucking up to Xavier. Didn't Jean have to make advances to him?

 

[ShadowBoxing]

How does being sexually repressed turn into his being a male prostitute in his youth?

It doesn't obviously. But that is the justifications fans typically use when trying to explain why Scott was a prostitute. However it could simply be...

...that could simply mean that he was kind of dorky as a kid and got nervous around girls easily.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

I wouldn't say "dorky" so much as overachieving. He's a very disciplined guy, so he probably just did his best to tune out his burgeoning sexuality and focus on sucking up to Xavier. Didn't Jean have to make advances to him?

Yes Jean did have to make the first move at Bobby's Birthday party. In fact the first time they have sex Cyclops tries to tell her off (when she removes his visor). That is when Jean established their rapport.

 

[The Question]

I wouldn't say "dorky" so much as overachieving. He's a very disciplined guy, so he probably just did his best to tune out his burgeoning sexuality and focus on sucking up to Xavier. Didn't Jean have to make advances to him?

And it may be that he got nervous around girls. alot of guys do.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, I'm not digging this whole male prostitute angle. It seems unnecessarily seedy to me. Not every shy person in the world was sexually abused as a kid.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Yeah, I'm not digging this whole male prostitute angle. It seems unnecessarily seedy to me. Not every shy person in the world was sexually abused as a kid.

I dislike it as well. Unnecessary for the character.

 

[Silicon Surfer]

Scott was with Xavier and the X-Men during his high school years. Jean left them to go to college and they were alread a long established team.

 

[Dread]

I enjoy ASTONISHING X-MEN but I don't see Whedon as the second coming, nor do I see his run as flawless. At this point I feel Whedon wants to homage the 80's material rather than pave any new ground. DANGER was a bit of a generic "machine goes evil, and oh, Xavier is evil too" sort of story, having the misfortune of there being other, and some worse, X-Men and sci-fi stories that are about that. Some people felt Danger's philosophy was some insightful thing, others saw it as wordy gibberish that writers insist on using to seem like they're unique and intelligent, which is predictable TV fare. I won't say where I lay, but at least it beast Bendis' "everyone sounds like a stuttering 11 year old boy who is emotionally immature" mantras.

But, ASTONISHING is a fun adventure read. It's not as mired and the action/dialogue/art are crisp. It's nothing innovative, but I don't care so long as the issues are readable. If you can't do something new, at least do something decent and enjoyable. ASTONISHING does that.

That said, Cyclops losing his "visor" and uncontrolled optic blasts does take a bit away from his character, but only because he's chosen to stick to that scthick for so long, much like Rogue's "ah cahn't touch anyone" stuff. It's a character quirk that he's relied on so long that it seems alien to see it cast aside. As the visor is merely a visual, I could still see him using it even if he can control his optic blasts for these reasons:

1). Why let your enemies know your powers have changed? By abandoning the visor, Scott tells every X-Men enemy, "hey! I can control my powers now!" Why not keep it, and if some enemy takes it off and jeers about how he's now useless "lest you hit someone innocent", he could smugly smirk and go, "People change, jack***" and let one rip. This won't happen, of course, but I can dream.

2). The visor offers protection for his eyes like any goggles would for things like dusty areas, high altitudes, wind, and even blunt trauma. As his eyes are very important to him, why take away something that protects them?

3). As others suggested, they could add modifications to the visor to have it add to his new powers.

4). Because it's his visual.

Of course, most things with the X-Men rarely last for long. They hit the spin cycle worse than some other franchises.

As for the "virginal/male prostitute" theory, I've realized that despite the fact that I dislike "fanboy stereotypes", the bit about them being undersexed, socially & romantically inexperienced types sometimes hits close to home as many are about as uptight as my grandma when it comes to characters and sex. A heroine has sex with someone before marriage or with more than one person in her whole life and suddenly she's a "****e". Sheesh.

 

[Not Jake]

Cyke could keep the visor for any of the above reasons, but Emma will probably make him leave it off, because visors totally get irritating during makeout sessions. Then again, Cyclops won't be able to hide the bags under his eyes the morning after he goes on a drinking binge to drown his emotionally stunted "sorrows," such as crying about boning ragingly sexy women despite being a d-bag. This is indeed quite a predicament.

 

[Dr.Doom]

1). Why let your enemies know your powers have changed? By abandoning the visor, Scott tells every X-Men enemy, "hey! I can control my powers now!" Why not keep it, and if some enemy takes it off and jeers about how he's now useless "lest you hit someone innocent", he could smugly smirk and go, "People change, jack***" and let one rip. This won't happen, of course, but I can dream.

I LOVE IT

-DOOM

 

[Not Jake]

I know about the visor makeout thing because I am into cosplayers who dress up like Robot Masters from Mega Man.

 

[Varient]

(smile)

I want him to be like this.

I'm sorry,.. but the character deserves a break. The straight-laced, anally retentive, straight man for the x-men deserves a taste of what the others outside of rogue take for granted.

I hope they do it right too.

I want him going where there is the most color since all he's seen for decades is shades of red.

I want him relaxing in a shower w/o goggles.

I want him on the test range @ X-mansion showing MORE than he's ever done with his powers,.... with the damage repaired will he remain limited to his eyes?

I want him TO SMILE DAMMIT!!!!


*WHEW* Rant over.

 

[Silicon Surfer]

His raw power level might go up too. We might find that the power level we are used to seeing is only mid level for his potential.

 

[kiuju2k]

Read the current x-men. Apparently cyclops has "untapped" power that he is blasting bishop with. I say he should keep the visor but, wear it around his neck or something. Cause you never know if you have a relapse or something.

 

[Darthphere]

We should get rid of Wolverine's claws too.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

We should get rid of Wolverine's claws too.

Those claws are holding him back.

Same with Captain America's shield and Thor's hammer, who the hell fights with those anymore