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Visual Effects of Ghost Rider

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Do you think that most of Ghost Riders scenes will be Cage/stuntman in the GR attire with a blue mask on and the CGI Flaming Skull added in post or will he be entirely CGI like Spidey?
I hope its the first:) :ghost:
 
I hope so too...i dont want a 100% cgi'd GR (unless its for some kind of impossible bike stunt). i would prefer a costumed stunt man w/ a cgi'd head. much like what they did for the Headless Horseman in Tim Burton's "Sleepy Hollow" who is also a type of "Ghost Rider" as well...heh
 
BIGGUN said:
I hope so too...i dont want a 100% cgi'd GR (unless its for some kind of impossible bike stunt). i would prefer a costumed stunt man w/ a cgi'd head. much like what they did for the Headless Horseman in Tim Burton's "Sleepy Hollow" who is also a type of "Ghost Rider" as well...heh
That's what I'm hoping for too. They did very good with the Horseman in Sleepy Hollow, he looked real.
 
Again, this all depends on how demonic they are going to make this particular bouty hunter. I've seen some designs that were prett different than what we've come to know and love. It may have to all be done CGI because it goes way beyond just a flaming skull.
 
this is true...if they tried the trenchcoat there would be more cgi involved than just the head..
the problem is i just dont want GR to look fake... cgi is really good now ...but its not that good yet. it could probably simulate leather but its the body movements that will be a problem. you know how you can tell the difference between how a real person moves and a cgi character...thats what i dont want to see...or at least for the entire movie.
suppose we will just have to wait and see on this ....gonna be a longgg wait...errr
 
Very long wait. In a way, this whole internet thing is bad. In the old days, we wouldn't even hear about the movie until next fall or something. I wouldn't have anyway. Things sure have changed.

I hate waiting.
 
Waiting Sucks:mad:

Can anybody post the trenchcoat GR i havent seen it.
Some of GR has to be real or it will hurt the movie like it did in hulk,most audiences don't like just watching a fake image bounce around the screenand ghost rider will be on screen a lot.plus the CGI spidey was good but he is light,CGI still dosent create weight very well and GR is a big dude:) :ghost:
 
hunter rider said:
Can anybody post the trenchcoat GR i havent seen it.
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But in any case, for most of the movie they should definitely try to have the actor actually there, with a completely CGI'd over skullhead and flames---if Ghost Rider's costume tears, it'd be a nice visual to see flame covered bones peeking out from the rips 'n tears as well. But besides that and various special effects scenes that would be impossible to pull off in real life, I don't think Ghost Rider's actual body should generally be completely CGI.
 
Dr.Dude said:
But in any case, for most of the movie they should definitely try to have the actor actually there, with a completely CGI'd over skullhead and flames---if Ghost Rider's costume tears, it'd be a nice visual to see flame covered bones peeking out from the rips 'n tears as well. But besides that and various special effects scenes that would be impossible to pull off in real life, I don't think Ghost Rider's actual body should generally be completely CGI.
Thanks for the pic:)
I think its awesome and would look great on screen.:ghost:
 
From what MSJ has said, I don't think we'll see this Grim Reaper type version of Ghost Rider. I could be wrong but I get the feeling from what he's mentioned that we're going to see the old and true version of him. Direct from the pages.

Having said that, I wouldn't be dissapointed with this version because it's also kickass.
 
well he also said at that conference that GRs look would "evolve" throughout the movie so there might be a possibility of different outfits. they might use the trenchcoat idea..might not....but from what i gathered the spiked 90s outfit would be the final version.
 
And that excites me to no end. That's what I want to see. You all know how much I love the 90's version. The question remains if he'll use the spikes as weapons like Vengeance was able to do.
 
This has nothing to do with the actual thread (sorry)but if anyone has The hammerlane graphic novel could they scan it and post the pic please.:)
I want to print it and transfer it onto a T-shirt.:ghost: :)
 
Which pic are you talking about? If it's the covers you're talking about, they're available online in several places... like this one.

GhostRider_Hammer_Lane-01.jpg
 
FlameHead said:
Which pic are you talking about? If it's the covers you're talking about, they're available online in several places... like this one.

GhostRider_Hammer_Lane-01.jpg
Thanks that was the picture i was after:) :ghost:
 
Dude's got a flaming skull for a head. I'd assume there's going to be a bit of CGI.
 
I think that as long as the bike stunts are real, it will be good. Too much cgi could kill this movie. Also, there is so much emotion in GR that his face (skull) will actually show it. And that right there will be a sweet arse effect. To actually see the frown or a smile or his eyes wrinkling a bit, like, a saddened look. That will be cool....















P.S.
Nic Cage sux
 
Nic Cage is fantastic. I had doubts about him in this role but those feelings have been extinguished from the words of MSJ. Nic loves the character and we must have faith in that.

The special effects that is out there today can handle this. Think of Ballrog. Think of the scene where agent smith is on fire in one of the matrix movies. I'm not sure what we're going to see but I'm very confident that it's going to be brilliant.
 
I'm sure everyone is concerned about this. Hunter Rider talked about it in another thread saying....
I didn't want to open a new thread for this idea so i thought i'd stick it here as it seems to kinda fit the topic.I was thinking about the Flame CGI needed for GR and his bike and as we all know realistic CGI fire is one of the hardest things to achieve,so after seeing the impressive Torch CGI in the FF footage i was wondering do you think it would be a good idea to hire the FF VFX guys for GR?

I figured it did deserve it's own there and started it.

Up until seeing seeing the recent movies that have been developed, I was worried about the special effects for a Ghost Rider movie. I have none now though. I'm pretty sure they're going to be able to pull this bad boy off.

I haven't seen the FF footage yet so I can't really comment on that.
 
Hey guys, I just read this at Comics2film. I couldn't read the whole article,as you have to be a member to open it. Maybe someone here can get the whole article. This has not been officially announced anywhere else has it? If so, sorry for posting a new thread.
This is more good news for the project and relieves some of my worries about Cage's indescisive BS over signing. :)
 
Good find:up:

now hopefully the fact that they now have an effects company lined up it means cage signining is just a formality as you don't usually set up the vfx unless your sure you'll get your star.:) :ghost:
 
Heres the full article from VFXWORLD:

Sony Lands Superman’s Return

Friday October 29, 2004


As expected, Sony Pictures Imageworks got the SUPERMAN RETURNS gig after Warner Bros. took it away from ESC Ent., forcing it to close shop and go on hiatus, reports HOLLYWOOD REPORTER.

Former Imageworks staffer Mark Stetson, who is supervising vfx for Warner Bros., was instrumental in helping Sony beat out ILM in the bidding.

Director Bryan Singer will helm SUPERMAN RETURNS beginning early next year in Australia, with relative unknown Brandon Routh (GILMORE GIRLS an WILL & GRACE) in the lead. An internal vfx supervisor has not yet been selected at Imageworks, which expects to create approximately 800 CGI shots, comparable to the work done for SPIDER-MAN 2.

Imageworks announced that it is also performing vfx shots for Columbia Pictures’ GHOST RIDER, with Oscar-winner Kevin Mack serving as vfx supervisor.

http://vfxworld.com/?atype=news&id=12305&a=search&term=ghost rider
http://www.comics2film.com

Kevin Mack's bio: http://www.imageworks.com/company/bios/kmack.html
 
indeed....this does sound like good news.
at least they are attempting to get the best tech people from Hollywood...definate sign that Sony wants GR to be done right.
 
When the lead/title character is purely animaton, you have to hire the best.
 
I just seen a pic of Nic and he looks pretty skinny. Do you think he's bulking down to make sure they use his body as much as possible? Just have a CGI skull and that's about all? Hmmm...
 

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