Visual Effects of Ghost Rider

[AmerikazMostWanted]

special effects

 

[FlameHead]

All I know is that it's probably a blessing that this movie has taken so long to come out. The special effects that are out there these days, those which have been developed in the last 3 years, are what's needed for Ghost Rider. If the movie was made a few years back we would have all cried. Now... NOw I have faith.

 

[Night]

That looks cool with the flaming skull I can't wait!

 

[FlameHead]

The flames look cool, yes. The actual skull is horrid and hopefully will be improved apon 10 fold.

 

[Compi716]

I know that some Ghost Rider CGI test footage was once done. I'm pretty sure that a picture of it is in Vartha's wallpaper (in his wallpaper thread). Does anybody know where I can see this footage?

 

[BIGGUN]

here is the link for the pics and info for the 1995 test shots....sadly no one has or seen the actual footage. just pics

http://www.goat.com/ghost_rider.html

 

[Compi716]

Oh, okay. Thanks.

I hope GR looks more realistic in the movie.

 

[FlameHead]

I'm sure he will. Those tests shots were done 10 years ago now. Things have advanced incredibly since those shots were done.

 

[Vartha]

Yeah Comp that's about how long I've had my Set of those. There never was actual footage on-line to my knowledge

 

[FlameHead]

I'm sure some of you out there who make those incredible animated avatars could animate those pics into something... interesting. There may not be enough images though... I don't know.

 

[Caliber]

Thats actually pretty good.

 

[FlameHead]

Really? I'm not very fond of it personally.

 

[deep98]

Hi, I'm new here.

Sorry if these ere already posted, but I ran accross this and thought this would be interesting to post for you Ghost Rider Fans.

http://www.goat.com/ghost_rider.html

Enjoy, Don't know if its real, but it was supposedly a test for Marvel.

 

[BIGGUN]

thanks for the effort but those pics were already posted here a long time ago.
those pics were from the 1995 GR treatment....which of course never got anywhere. like you said it was just a test by a cgi company in the hopes to land the job for the GR fx.

 

[HighVoltage]

Cool & excellent pics for my new Ghost Rider avatar,thanks.

 

[Fantastic-Boy]

Old......

 

[FlameHead]

I'm sure some of you out there who make those incredible animated avatars could animate those pics into something... interesting. There may not be enough images though... I don't know.

Hunter, if you're out there, how about usin' your Avatar makin' skills to whip us up some sort of animated thing using the goat images... if you have the time, of course.

That request, goes out to anyone by the way.

 

[FlameHead]

Bumpin this thread with info from the ComicCon info; http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0508/20/ghostrider.htm

Question: I would like to see some excellent CGI done on Ghost Rider.

Johnson: Yeah, thanks. We've got the guys who did Spider-Man 1 and 2, Sony Imageworks, that are doing it. They're really the best in the business. Kevin Mack, the visual effects person, he did Fight Club and he's really at the top of his game.

We played with the idea of looking at a mask, but of course once you're playing with fire you're in a CG realm anyway. It's kind of interesting, the way the Ghost Rider works. We film Nic or his double, dressed as the Ghost Rider, with the spikes, chains, leather and everything on him. But he wears an interactive light collar around his neck, sometimes a whole green helmet, and that's what we're going to be removing. So it is the person, it is the actor, but the head itself is CG. And that was our biggest challenge, making sure it looks absolutely fantastic.

 

[Vartha]

Very cool FH.

The Torch's CGI flames had 5 different layers to achieve the look properly.
From what we've seen in the footage, I think the are doing a great job so far.

 

[batman 833]

by the way i think black heart should be mostly done with prosthetics and a man in a suit like the lycans(werewolfs) in underworld where they only used cg for the big leaps and wall walking so a great suit with hair muscle you know every aspect of black heart's body covered,and i haven't seen nothing about the chain remember it is GR most bad ass weapon and probably the one he will mostly use in the fights so the chain movements are really important, probably the chain when in swinging and hitting slashing mode will be mostly cg i hope not but lets see, what do you think guys?

 

[FlameHead]

We're not yet sure how much of the comic Blackheart is evident in the film... but I don't think they used any prosthetics or anything. I think the demon side of the demons will come out w/ CG from the reports given to us by MSJ. I too would have like to have seen that though and I fear that Blackheart wont be the blackheart we all love to hate.

As for the chain, yes that is the main weapon and I'm sure it's gonna look fantastic.

Very cool FH.

The Torch's CGI flames had 5 different layers to achieve the look properly.
From what we've seen in the footage, I think the are doing a great job so far.

And we've see so very little yet. I think we better hold onto our hats when the footage of GR actually comes out. I have faith that it'll blow us away.

 

[FlameHead]

Like I've done before, I'm gonna organize MSJ's answers to our questions by putting them in the appropriate threads. This'll help keep the discussion from jumblin' up....

1. How is the CGI coming along? Anything special would should know about?

Kevin Mack and his team at Sony Imageworks are awesome. They have been working night and day to make Ghost Rider the coolest character in the Marvel Universe. I'm not going to lie to you -- it's been harder than anyone thought. CGI fire is known as one of the most difficult things to portray on film. There is a fire simulation program that they've created just for the movie that looks amazing, so that the fire moves naturally with Ghost Rider, whether he's walking or riding on the Hellcycle or standing in the wind atop a 75 story building. The incredibly tedious part is that the fire needs to be tweaked on a shot by shot basis. We analyze the fire constantly -- is it too rich, flickering too fast, too transparent, etc.? Also, how much fire, the hue of the flame, etc. depends on the Ghost Rider's mood. Naturally, most of the time his mood is pissed off! But there are times when we see the tortured side of him as well. And now that we're dialing in the flames as they pertain to Ghost Rider, we have to do the same thing with the Hellcycle. Of course, the villains all have different visual effects as well. So it's been a wild ride in the FX world.

 

[FlameHead]

"Naturally, most of the time his mood is pissed off!"

Awesome. Just awsome.

It's awesome that they created a program to handle Ghost Rider's flames. Brilliant and I guess necessary. A not of thought has to go into the flames as it's almost a character itself.

Sounds great!

 

[FlameHead]

The dreaded double post.

 

[Uncanny Orb]

I just can't wait to see what he looks like on film streaking down a highway.