Visualizing A Superman Reboot: Pictures Welcome

[Maze]

but yes speaking a lot of different people it's clear that a lot ( mostly young men) want (sadly IMO ) more action.

 

[matthooper]

but yes speaking a lot of different people it's clear that a lot ( mostly young men) want (sadly IMO ) more action.

I might have overlooked the lack of action if a good and imaginative story had been told.

Even when talking to people who loved the movie, not one isn't swayed into at least considering the fact that it could have been so much more.

 

[Maze]

I might have overlooked the lack of action if a good and imaginative story had been told.

Even when talking to people who loved the movie, not one isn't swayed into at least considering the fact that it could have been so much more.

Sorry that you feel that way about the movie .

Imo the story was great and imaginative.

Non fans that i have talked about thought the same ..

like they say to each their own

 

[BobJM]

While I can't speak on behalf of the mass audience, I can tell you what they would probably want (and I'll try to have the mindset of those who have never read the comics).

1.) I think that the biggest issue that the mass majority of audiences across the nation had with Superman Returns was the fact that there was very little action for a 2 1/2 hour film. Too much building up and character & plot progession, that the action was overpowered. And even when there was action, it tended to be a bit dull (despite the scale and CGI of it all) and generic.

2.) Too many references to the Donner films. For many teens and even younger children, they don't know a thing about the old films. They've probably seen it while they were flicking past the movie channels on their television, but a majority have not seen the actually films (1 & 2). During my first viewing, which I saw with my friend, I found myself explaining a lot to him, trying to fill him on what happened in the first and second Superman films. And my second viewing was with my dad who, despite growing up with those films, couldn't follow or comprehend the fact that Superman and Lois had a child together (the crystal, too, threw him off a bit).

3.) Better villains. Yes, audiences love Lex Luthor, but I'm pretty sure that people are ready to see some super-powered villain for Superman to duel with all throughout the city with. Whether it be Metallo, Brainiac, or Bizarro; the audience is ready. Superman II was really successful because of the addition of Zod and his crew.

There, I'm done.

 

[Superfreak]

1. yes, but at least he should have SMASHED something. that big gattling gun for instance, or some rockets from luthor. Superman in SR was just doing twinkletoes here and twinkletoes there.
SR was FAIRYMAN the MOVIE!

2. that's why it was a bad idea to have the Superman movies follow the exact format of Donner's coz those movies were already a bad adaptation frm the start

3. very true, except that in order to create a truly tight scenario of Metallo thru Lex or Parasite thru Lex, Lex should be ret-conned into the billionaire Lex version

Superman needs a grand overhaul. the concept of Superman is pretty simple, especially if itz a tool to attract mass market. It shouldve been easier for Superman to gain more popularity, more respect, and more earnings than the Spider-man franchise. But the Spidey movies did great. Why? Because it was faithful to the source material. Raimi was a Spidey fan since his youth. Singer was a fan of the Donner movies. Do the Math. SR shouldve gained BILLIONS. but theyre 400 M dollars short. Sure, SR was saturated by a kind of teeny-bopper magazine aura. it was popular ESPECIALLY for the ladies. But that fame just wasnt enough.

the mass audience wudnt want another SR....just like wat d other posters summed up, A NEW APPROACH to SUPERMAN...not just the Donner approach as adapted by Singer

I didn't write that second quote

 

[The Kid]

I want to see this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQe9-BaJS9s&mode=related&search=
As much superdickery as possible!

What do you want to see?

 

[Gamma Ray]

I want to see some NEW material!

 

[The Kid]

That might be a good idea.

 

[X-Maniac]

Sorry that you feel that way about the movie .

Imo the story was great and imaginative.

Non fans that i have talked about thought the same ..

like they say to each their own

Isn't it strange how Cyclops fans prefer Singer's Superman Returns?!

Politics anyone?

 

[X-Maniac]

but yes speaking a lot of different people it's clear that a lot ( mostly young men) want (sadly IMO ) more action.

Now you are being silly.

A Superman movie without action is like a Titanic movie without a ship in it.

And SR did have action, but not the right kind. Not one person vs one person, not 'showdown' action. not even big arguments and strong words. Just lots of people staring and glancing at everything, feeling things inside. I saw people in the cinema being bored (the man next to me fell asleep, the people in front were playing games on their mobile phones), I heard people complaining after the film as we all walked out of the building.

 

[Maze]

Isn't it strange how Cyclops fans prefer Singer's Superman Returns?!

Politics anyone?

Lol and like always you continue to make assumption about people.

No you 're far from the the truth..

 

[Maze]

Now you are being silly.

A Superman movie without action is like a Titanic movie without a ship in it.

And SR did have action, but not the right kind. Not one person vs one person, not 'showdown' action. not even big arguments and strong words. Just lots of people staring and glancing at everything, feeling things inside. I saw people in the cinema being bored (the man next to me fell asleep, the people in front were playing games on their mobile phones), I heard people complaining after the film as we all walked out of the building.

LOL I absolutely love that!

that's why those forums are so fun .

you have one guy ( me ) who talks about his opinion and of course because Xmaniac tell that the truth is otherwise , well the opinion of that guy is wrong and he is silly.

yeah , yeah yeah yeah

 

[Maze]

I saw people in the cinema being bored (the man next to me fell asleep, the people in front were playing games on their mobile phones), I heard people complaining after the film as we all walked out of the building

Yes ( honestly) i'm sure that it is the case

and i saw people cheering in my theater..and i saw people talk about this movie with passion , and giving indepht analysis..

Yes for them (and for me ) there is a lot of richness in this movie..

not for you , that's the way it is , to each its own

 

[X-Maniac]

Yes ( honestly) i'm sure that it is the case

and i saw people cheering in my theater..and i saw people talk about this movie with passion , and giving indepht analysis..

Yes for them (and for me ) there is a lot of richness in this movie..

not for you , that's the way it is , to each its own

Well it is indeed true that the man next to me fell asleep (on a girl's shoulder next to him!) and the couple in front were being very annoying - i could see the glow from their phones and hear them talking to each other as i was trying to watch the film.

Here in the UK, we don't cheer and scream in the cinema - people can get thrown out for doing that!

There is richness in the movie, I agree. But this kind of movie needs more than richness. It had some beautiful moments and themes...but the result obviously did not have a wide appeal. The movie is not really for children, or for action movie lovers, and not that much for the male audience. It tried too hard (like the Hulk movie in some ways, too cerebral).

And a lot of silly things like young Clark wearing glasses (why?) and Clark throwing the ball too far for his dog (why?)... things that were done for the effect, to look cool, but had no meaning and made no sense. Whereas things like the Krypton sequence, which does have meaning (it shows us how alone Superman is, that he is the last of his kind, that earth is all he has left to make a connection with other people) were left out. Some bad decisions on the editing.

 

[matthooper]

Sorry that you feel that way about the movie .

Imo the story was great and imaginative.

Non fans that i have talked about thought the same ..

like they say to each their own

I refuse to believe anyone thought that Lex's plan/New Kryptin was explored to it's full potential. Even if you liked the film. Hence, no imagination. Plus, one missle from a U.S. ship could have destroyed it. The plan had design of a 10 year old. The plan is where the movie lost me.

As far as NK goes, where was the imagination? Where was the sense of wonder? Imagine what could have been. All Singer could come up with was a big rock with kryptonite.

Back to the question. People want to be put in a world of wonder and imagination. Not something that seems concocted by a chimp.

 

[Maze]

I refuse to believe anyone thought that Lex's plan/New Kryptin was explored to it's full potential. Even if you liked the film. Hence, no imagination. Plus, one missle from a U.S. ship could have destroyed it. The plan had design of a 10 year old. The plan is where the movie lost me

Well ,sorry that you can't imagine for one second some people love that part of the movie too.

I will traducce (i'm French) my analysis of that part of the movie one day (and i will answer to you Xmaniac to why no those scene that you are talking about are not just there to be cool imo ) it's four in the morning here.. zzzzz

As far as NK goes, where was the imagination? Where was the sense of wonder? Imagine what could have been. All Singer could come up with was a big rock with kryptonite.

it was there for me

Back to the question. People want to be put in a world of wonder and imagination. Not something that seems concocted by a chimp

No ,

Not, only you are insulting there but you try to pass your opinion for the truth.

you wan't a discussion or not?if that's the case keep an open mind and respect a different opinon..

In the meantime goood niight AmericaAAA

Ps: i did not like the movie .I loved it

 

[Immortalfire]

I want to see Bryan step out of Donner's shadow and do something original.

 

[Super Kal]

I want to see Bryan step out of Donner's shadow and do something original.

me too...

I would like to see more landing/take off shots, more flying, brighter colors, and an overall brighter world.

 

[DavidTyler]

I'd like to see the costume fixed and the kid plotline erased

 

[Venom71]

Brainiac!

 

[Lex Luthor]

Something a little less Donner-esque. And Zod-less.

 

[The Kid]

I wouldn't mind seeing LexCorp if lex is in it.

 

[Mentok]

Less Donner... More Routh. Some ass kicking too

 

[TKing]

^^Yeah, definitely more ass kicking.

 

[Apellation]

I don't think the mass audience cared. You show me where the love was. I never heard from anyone how attached they were to Richard. Emotionally attached? Are you joking? Almost no one cared about Richard. People went to see Superman and were left wanting more Superman not more Richard. I guess people thought the kid was cute, but I don't think most cared one way or another about him.

Just because you didn't care doesn't mean no-one else did. You can't honestly say no-one was scared for Richard & Jason when they were trapped in the ship. I could cut the fear in the theater with a knife.