Was the action that much better?

[blind_fury]

Singer was never really good at action. The only good action scenes in X2 was Nightcrawler's White House attack and Colossus steeling up. There were no memorable action scenes in X1.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Are some people on here stupid or just plain ignorant, look at the budgets Singer got compared to Ratner, let me spell it to you all, X-Men: $70 million, X2: $110 million, X-Men: The Last Stand: $200 million ($210 million according to the front) page. Ratner got more for one movie than Singer got for two, now how the **** do you expect Singer to do better?

 

[Odin's Lapdog]

haha, the action wasn't better, it was just on for longer.

let's take this into consideration of all recent superhero fights

juggs wolverine is below par, ended up wolverine getting tossed around again and making no impact on juggs what so ever, only to get up unaffected from the pasting he got...

storm/brotherhood-blows away 2 before they know what happened, then silly scene with callisto. again, not great.


jean/professor was good although underplayed considering they were the strongest minds on the entire planet, the whole street should have been destroyed at the very least

wolverine in the forest, same old same old, just like his fight against the soldiers at the mansion, cheap and petty, no big deal, again nothing special.



end fight.

collosus doesn't do anything but sway his arms...
magneto is far less effective in this bout
wolverine is randomly slashing again *yawn*
juggs/kitty confrontation is plain silly
beast is alright, the best of the bunch actually but again, they could have really pushed the boat out in his moves
bobby does....nothing for along time and his confrontation with pyro is anti climatic.
even though there is emphasis on working as a team and all way at the beginning of the film, they still work as individuals in a line, it's silly.


i will definitely say the calibre of the fight scenes aren't better, there's just more of them.

 

[Highlord]

Don't get me wrong the SFX was awesome. In fact it easily surpasses either film in the SFX and CGI....but is the action or the actual sequences really any bit better.

All the one on ones were disappointing in X3 if non-existant other than a few bad romps with Juggy (knocked out by a wall) and the Callisto/Storm cat fights which the second one was mildly cool.

But look at the fight sequences that looked cool but had little intensity. Now compare that to the fight scene between Wolverine and Lady Deathstrike or Wolverine and Mystique. I mean sure Wolverine killed more people in this but it did not have the coolness factor or the intensity in the woodo or finale as it did in the mansion in X2 where he went ape**** on those men (seeing him say "You picked the wrong house bub," and nail the guy to the fridge is much cooler than him kill that annoying spike guy).

The climaxes in both films was far more intense (though it was less action and more character driven in X2, but X1 with less was much more edge of your seat inducing).

And before you say they didn't show the powers as well all I have to say is the Nightcrawler sequence. And as cool as the CGI was in the golden gate bridge scene the scene was rather boring as compared to say his escape scene in X2.

Just an observation though.

Wait. Fight between Mystique and Logan in X1 was disaster. Fight in Rush Hour were better, literaly.
Fight between Logan and Sabertooth was disaster for what it could have been.

Fight in X2 wasn't special either, but much better than in X1. Although Nightcrawler attack rocked.
Logan in X2 in mansion, also nothing special. His show in X3 in forest was much, much better.

About X3, yes action is much better, larger and more spectacular. Not mentioning that X3 scene in the house with Jean and Professor X is one of the most beautiful action scene ever filmed.
Although Nightcrawler attack was very good, but no scene from previous movie is close up to that scene from X3.
And Golden Gate bridge was awesome scene.

Ratner is better at directing an action than Singer.

 

[Odin's Lapdog]

action in x3 is not on par with anything in blade 2 or spidey 2, why even boast about it?

 

[blind_fury]

action in x3 is not on par with anything in blade 2 or spidey 2, why even boast about it?

Kitty vs Juggernaut
Kitty vs Brotherhood
Iceman vs Pyro
Wolverine vs Juggernaught
Wolverine vs Brotherhood (forest)
Wolverine vs Brotherhood (Alcatraz)
Beast vs Brotherhood
Storm vs Callitsto (Jean's house)
Storm vs Callisto (Alcatraz)
Magneto vs soldiers and X-men
Mystique's prison rescue
Golden Gate Bridge sequence
X-men in Danger Room
Dark Phoenix scenes

All worse than the fight scens in Blade 2 and the chick flick Spider-man 2?

That's some funny s--t. You should be comedian!

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Blade 2 sucked.

As far as I'm concerned, it's the worse comic book film to come out in this new era of comic book films, started by the original Blade and X-Men.

God I hate that movie, and I hate Guerillmo Del Toro.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Kitty vs Juggernaut
Kitty vs Brotherhood
Iceman vs Pyro
Wolverine vs Juggernaught
Wolverine vs Brotherhood (forest)
Wolverine vs Brotherhood (Alcatraz)
Beast vs Brotherhood
Storm vs Callitsto (Jean's house)
Storm vs Callisto (Alcatraz)
Magneto vs soldiers and X-men
Mystique's prison rescue
Golden Gate Bridge sequence
X-men in Danger Room
Dark Phoenix scenes

All worse than the fight scens in Blade 2 and the chick flick Spider-man 2?

That's some funny s--t. You should be comedian!

You should be the comedian lad, the fights scene's in Blade 2 and Spidey 2 are the best of any mervel movie.

 

[Odin's Lapdog]

Kitty vs Juggernaut
Kitty vs Brotherhood
Iceman vs Pyro
Wolverine vs Juggernaught
Wolverine vs Brotherhood (forest)
Wolverine vs Brotherhood (Alcatraz)
Beast vs Brotherhood
Storm vs Callitsto (Jean's house)
Storm vs Callisto (Alcatraz)
Magneto vs soldiers and X-men
Mystique's prison rescue
Golden Gate Bridge sequence
X-men in Danger Room
Dark Phoenix scenes

All worse than the fight scens in Blade 2 and the chick flick Spider-man 2?

That's some funny s--t. You should be comedian!

they are all definitely worse when you lay them out like that. ugh, they were bad, they aren't all even memorable...

nomak/blade at the end and all of spidey's confrontations with ock as well as his last with GG are ALL better than everything on that list.

no need for denial

 

[Odin's Lapdog]

Blade 2 sucked.

As far as I'm concerned, it's the worse comic book film to come out in this new era of comic book films, started by the original Blade and X-Men.

God I hate that movie, and I hate Guerillmo Del Toro.

worse than blade trinity and fantastic four, punisher and elektra? You must be smoking...

besides i'm not talking about the film, i'm talking about the action since it's the topic of the thread in question.

 

[blind_fury]

You should be the comedian lad, the fights scene's in Blade 2 and Spidey 2 are the best of any mervel movie.

Blade 2 has only a couple of decent fight scenes, the same with Spider-man 2. X3 had a dozen or so. It's really on another level.

 

[Odin's Lapdog]

dozen yes, decent no

simple quantity over quality.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Blade 2 has only a couple of decent fight scenes, the same with Spider-man 2. X3 had a dozen or so. It's really on another level.

Nomak vs Blade at the end and Spidey vs Ock on the train are more than decent fella

 

[blind_fury]

they are all definitely worse when you lay them out like that. ugh, they were bad, they aren't all even memorable...

nomak/blade at the end and all of spidey's confrontations with ock as well as his last with GG are ALL better than everything on that list.

no need for denial

well if you think the power-ranger Green Goblin fights in SM1 are better than everything in X3 you're truly beyond all hope.

 

[Odin's Lapdog]

what does a costume have to do with the quality of a battle? if that's your best counter argument, then i honestly have one to say...

HAHA, how hilarious

 

[blind_fury]

Nomak vs Blade at the end and Spidey vs Ock on the train are more than decent fella

Those fights last for barely a minute or so. They can't really compare to the many extended battle sequences in X3 which are three times as long and have three times the imagination.

 

[blind_fury]

what does a costume have to do with the quality of a battle? if that's your best counter argument, then i honestly have one to say...

HAHA, how hilarious

actually "power-ranger" is an accurate description of the action scenes themselves.

Sam Raimi should stick to goofy horror movies.

 

[Sunstar]

Am I the only that thought some of the action scenes went by too quickly(like the rest of the film)? The only scenes that stood out was Prof X vs Jean and GGB! Most of the final battle was boring(only memorable scenes were Kitty vs Juggernaut and Beast going all beserk)!

 

[Odin's Lapdog]

alright, give me a strong corellation between the fights seen in spiderman and blade films to a bout in power rangers.

if you're trying to back pedal out, i'm not going to let you because the fighting style cultures of programs in the east and the west differ considerably and you're trying to establish that they do which is completely rubbish.

so go on, enlighten me with a breakdown of this 'accurate description'

 

[Nathan]

Thinking carefully about it, I prefer all the battles in the previous Movies to X3. Yes, even the Mystique and Sabretooth fight in the first one.

The Forest Fight didn't really exceed the Mansion Fight in X2. He was basically just running aimlessly through the forest slashing passing by Mutants on the way.

In the Juggernaut fight Wolverine got just thrown around, and considering the Juggernaut has class 100 strength it was really underwhelming. And every fight against Callisto is basically just a ***** fight.

The final battle, at first great to watch because we have our full X-Men team participating, at a 2nd glance a major letdown. Honestly, what exactly happens there? We have like 100 individuals who are supposedly Mutants, and all they do is to run into the X-Men's fists. They could have done so much with Beast and Colossus, but Beast just jumps around batting on a few Mutants and jumps to the next group, Colossus.... oh poor Colossus, he gets to hit 2 random Mutants and then takes cover because he's afraid of burning cars.

Magneto... "Look at me I can throw cars".

Pyro Vs Iceman. I'd rather forget that was in the movie.

 

[*xmenfan*]

I don't think there was more action in this film it just felt like X2 action in my opinion.

 

[blind_fury]

alright, give me a strong corellation between the fights seen in spiderman and blade films to a bout in power rangers.

if you're trying to back pedal out, i'm not going to let you because the fighting style cultures of programs in the east and the west differ considerably and you're trying to establish that they do which is completely rubbish.

so go on, enlighten me with a breakdown of this 'accurate description'

dude I'm not going to give a point by point comparison. But I will say the mutant fights in X3 are much more fluid, imaginative and unpredictable than the power ranger fights in the SM1.

 

[blind_fury]

Thinking carefully about it, I prefer all the battles in the previous Movies to X3. Yes, even the Mystique and Sabretooth fight in the first one.

Those were just really sad, uninspired wire-fu. Not worthy of any comic book adaptation let alone the X-men.

The Forest Fight didn't really exceed the Mansion Fight in X2. He was basically just running aimlessly through the forest slashing passing by Mutants on the way.

I disagree. The Mansion fight was too self-aware. It was like a movie within a movie instead of feeling natural and real. Wolverine yells while landing on two soldiers. They fall to the ground too easilty then Wolverine gets up, poses for the camera, and says "Let's go!" LAME!

Also the Forest scene conveyed better that Logan was outnumbered and his situation seemed more desperate. It was like Wolverine was being hunted like an anima so when he starts slashing up Brotherhood mutants we really cheer for him.

 

[Odin's Lapdog]

dude I'm not going to give a point by point comparison.

heh, it's quite obvious you don't have a point...

you've made claim you can't back up, typical...

But I will say the mutant fights in X3 are much more fluid, imaginative and unpredictable than the power ranger fights in the SM1.

i'll let this slide because firstly your power ranger fight comparison holds no water and is purely based on the look of one costume and secondly it'll just spiral downwards.

 

[blind_fury]

Whatever helps you sleep at night.