World Webbing formula

[newstranger]

I'm new here and i don't have any knowledge about chemistry, but here is what i'm thinking:
If you guys have a formula that for a sticky web string but it don't have enough strenght so you can swing, you can just put something in it's core (in the web string) which will make it stronger. Hope you understood what i was trying to say, but my english is not that good

 

[White_widow]

Welcome stranger. Do you have any idea what core would cause it to be stronger?

 

[newstranger]

Maybe fishing line will help, but the problem is how to cut it, because you should want this

 

[White_widow]

Nah, If you're going to go fishing line, you might as well make a grappling gun.

 

[anti-dc_]

Welcome stranger. Do you have any idea what core would cause it to be stronger?

how bout polymer?

 

[megajs]

where are we supposed to get cellulose acetate?

 

[Iron_spider]

where are we supposed to get cellulose acetate?

White_widow posted a link a few pages ago. It shouldn't be too hard to get it.

 

[megajs]

White_widow posted a link a few pages ago. It shouldn't be too hard to get it.

I was talking in a more general sense because I am from Canada so I can't use amazon.com and they dont have at the Canadian site so I meant more in terms of store types. Still thanks for pointing out the link

 

[Iron_spider]

You might be able to get it directly from the company who sells it. Eastman, I think.

 

[White_widow]

it's available in some fabric stores. Look for cellulose acetate rayon. Don't buy viscose rayon.

 

[megajs]

it's available in some fabric stores. Look for cellulose acetate rayon. Don't buy viscose rayon.

aright thanks i also had an idea where i would try using polyurethane as well. as soon as i have to the time to buy some lab equipment from my conveniently located science store (lucky me) and get the materials i will start experimenting and tell you guys my progress. i do have a feeling that polyurethane might help a lot

 

[spidey44]

I found some old notes I wrote down a couple of years ago, and they were suggestions my dad gave to me, and it was pretty similar to what we're trying to make now, liquid duct tape, but instead of cellulose acetate it was nylon fishing wire, but I didn't write down an adhesive yet, and the webshooter was a web fluid filled bag inside of a container of compressed air. This made me feel kinda sad because I'm back where I started.

 

[megajs]

i have been going over the formula on the realwebtech site and noticed that both a tackifying resin and contact cement is listed. doesn't contact cement already have tackifying properties?

 

[White_widow]

yup.

 

[megajs]

then why i ask do we need another resin unless you meant to say contact cement or a different resin?

 

[White_widow]

please do your research. Different resins accomplish different tasks. The contact cement is meant to give the strain crystallization in adhesion. The other resin is a tackifier. One allows it to fill in the crevices, and the tackifier helps keep it stuck.

 

[Ryleyw]

So does anyone know where to buy rubber cement? At home depot or somewhere?

 

[White_widow]

exactly.

 

[Iron_spider]

Something just crossed my mind. For our adhesive, we're going for something like duct tape, right? There might be a problem with that.

Duct tape doesn't adhere well to dirty, dusty, oily, etc. surfaces. Heck, most adhesives don't. That means for all of you that want to use this for parkour, you're going to have to go clean each wall you're going to web before you web it. And that's no fun, is it?

So how do we combat this problem? Or am I totally off in saying this?

 

[White_widow]

Something just crossed my mind. For our adhesive, we're going for something like duct tape, right? There might be a problem with that.

Duct tape doesn't adhere well to dirty, dusty, oily, etc. surfaces. Heck, most adhesives don't. That means for all of you that want to use this for parkour, you're going to have to go clean each wall you're going to web before you web it. And that's no fun, is it?

So how do we combat this problem? Or am I totally off in saying this?

Pores. We are using the splatter effect to make the most of it. The fluid will be a gel when it leaves the nozzle. The gel will get into the pores and stick. no word on rain.

edit: You are right in the case of metal, but for the most part, it would be used on concrete which is a very porous structure. What you said is also true in glass, metal (other than aluminum), and skin (though it will bond to hair). What you have to remember is that while adhesives don't like dirty areas, they most certainly love rough areas (except for cyanoacrylate, which has its best strength when forming films.)

 

[Iron_spider]

Ok good. And you're right, I forgot about the rough surfaces.

 

[White_widow]

So, All we have in the regards to formula are plastics that can be dissolved. I have more, but those are theories that require expensive machines that don't help you guys at all.

So those plastics that are strong enough are:
1.) PVOH
2.) Polystyrene
3.) Cellulose acetate

I propose a new idea:
Polyester.

Polyesters are many and differing. There are some that can liquify at 140 degrees fahrenheit. There are others that hold lots or little weight. they have many properties, but in general they are the materials that ropes are made of.

 

[GizmoGuy]

hi guys i'm kinda new here but I know how to make the end of the launcher spin.It's a matter of gears and mini 4wd motors.So yeah and the motor will also act like a heater that will make the web fluid hot at a certain point

oh and btw,go easy on me

 

[nolder]

Welcome Gizmo!

Guys, how did we miss this?!? t:
http://www.ehow.com/how_7167724_make-spiderman-webbing.html

 

[White_widow]

I created a web shooter, pressurized it, and fired water successfully from my wrist.

It turns out however, that the web fluid however is much more difficult. It clogged the fuel line leading to the shooter. Being that it is a gel, it blocks the tube like an artery. When it hardens though, (because I got a few globs to fire) it has all of the properties of webbing except for strength.

What that tells me is that we need to stop focusing on the shooter (now that we have one.) and on the formula, whose viscosity is too thick.

And don't worry. About a year ago, I would have just kept the shooter to myself, but I'll show you guys how to build it.