Welcome to Earth One! - Part 1

Yeah, originally Grant Morrison was also meant to do Flash: Earth One, but he's using that story for Multiversity #2.
 
I just read volume two of Batman EO.

When I read the first volume (back when it was released), I wasn't sure how I felt about it. On a certain level, it felt like Johns poking fun at Batman. Batman seemed like a chump. I get that this is precisely the point, but it was... weird. I initially felt that absurdity of the whole situation was so hammered into me by the story that it made it difficult to get behind the character--because he just seemed like a stupid person doing stupid things who would get himself killed stupidly. Like it was all a big joke.

Now, after having digested that book and with who this character is and how he fits in this world really expanded on, I found I really fell in love with the idea in volume 2.

I think what spoke to me was the realization that in this universe Batman makes mistakes. That's a foreign concept for the character. It's a really tough sell in the mainstream continuity: Batman just has so many stories under his belt, and has faced so many situations, that it becomes increasingly unbelievable that he would ever fail. How could XYZ defeat Batman when we have 70 years of examples indicating it shouldn't?

It isn't that this Batman is inexperienced--even though he is--it's just a functional part of this universe. He's never going to be perfect, or having perfect information, or make perfect choices. He'll never be everything from all angles.

I think the part that sold the book to me was how Batman initially dismisses detective work as "Not my job," but later realizes his mistake and asks Gordon to teach him. Batman, making a mistake, changing his mind, and correcting himself? Unusual, and instantly endearing. It's really refreshing to see a Batman to whom none of this comes naturally, and for whom nothing can be taken for granted. It adds a dimension to the story that isn't normally present.
 
http://comicvine.gamespot.com/artic...veal-teen-titans-earth-one-volum/1100-155128/
TEEN TITANS EARTH ONE VOL. 2 HC

Written by JEFF LEMIRE • Art and cover by ANDY MacDONALD
After months on the run from the twisted project that created them, Cyborg, Terra, Beast Boy and Garth are near their breaking point, barely surviving on what they can steal, squatting in the ruins of an abandoned subdivision. But as they reach their lowest ebb, their creator, Dr. Niles Caulder, is ready to make his move…and they’re about to learn that they weren’t the only kids to go through Caulder’s twisted process! There are more children with powers out there, and unlike our heroes, they were raised for only one purpose—to be the living weapons Caulder wants ALL his Titans to be! Writer Jeff Lemire (GREEN ARROW, ANIMAL MAN) teams up with artist Andy MacDonald (THE NEW 52: FUTURES’ END) to deliver the next chapter in the Earth One series!
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I think volume 2 was great. Both art and story. This is the type of Batman story i like. Simple, grounded, character driven.
 
Ignoring the gods as being part of WWs mythos....ok...
 
In fairness, a lot of the original Marston and Golden and Silver Age material afterward was very light on the gods. Ares was the only Greek God that had a large, outstanding presence. A lot of Wonder Woman's adventures in those time periods were espionage and sci-fi in nature. It wasn't until the Perez reboot that the gods and mythical aspect of Wonder Woman was brought to the forefront. Seems Morrison wants to look at something more along the lines of Marston's ideas over Perez, which is very refreshing since it seems DC is determined to cut that aspect out of Wonder Woman.
 
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Yeah but ignoring them as being part of her creation in general is weird. Of course it is a E1 novel so things change but certainly wont help people who are already confused about the character.
 
Eh, they were pretty ignored in Marston's original run, too. They were shown at the beginning, but then basically ignored outside Ares and Aphrodite. I think it's great, really, that we're getting something that focuses on another aspect of the character. As fresh as Azz's take was on the Greek pathos, WW has been stuck in mythological mode for too long. We need to get some of that weird sci-fi juice that helped birth the character back.
 
My WW: EO shipped a couple of days ago. Looking forward to, been a long time coming.
 
Just finished reading WW:E1. Didn't hate it as much as I thought I would, it was ok. Though I feel like the bathing suit is played out and didn't really understand why she stuck to it in the end. I guess to help empower women?

I am split on Hippolyta being the enemy in this

The only amazon missing was Cassie, it was great seeing everyone else.
 
Primal Slayer said:
Just finished reading WW:E1. Didn't hate it as much as I thought I would, it was ok. Though I feel like the bathing suit is played out and didn't really understand why she stuck to it in the end. I guess to help empower women?

I am split on Hippolyta being the enemy in this

The only amazon missing was Cassie, it was great seeing everyone else.
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The bathing suit is her iconic look and always will be, that's probably why. I haven't gotten around to reading it as of yet, though, so I don't know what the in-story reason is, if there is one.

One thing I hated flipping through the thing is that I saw they had the bottoms without the stars and I was like, 'yes, finally, the suit is basically perfect!' But then on the last page I saw they added the goddamn stars back and it's like oh ****, forget it. I know the cover had the stars, but I thought maybe that was more just representing the iconic look or something.
 
Saint said:
I just read volume two of Batman EO.

When I read the first volume (back when it was released), I wasn't sure how I felt about it. On a certain level, it felt like Johns poking fun at Batman. Batman seemed like a chump. I get that this is precisely the point, but it was... weird. I initially felt that absurdity of the whole situation was so hammered into me by the story that it made it difficult to get behind the character--because he just seemed like a stupid person doing stupid things who would get himself killed stupidly. Like it was all a big joke.

Now, after having digested that book and with who this character is and how he fits in this world really expanded on, I found I really fell in love with the idea in volume 2.

I think what spoke to me was the realization that in this universe Batman makes mistakes. That's a foreign concept for the character. It's a really tough sell in the mainstream continuity: Batman just has so many stories under his belt, and has faced so many situations, that it becomes increasingly unbelievable that he would ever fail. How could XYZ defeat Batman when we have 70 years of examples indicating it shouldn't?

It isn't that this Batman is inexperienced--even though he is--it's just a functional part of this universe. He's never going to be perfect, or having perfect information, or make perfect choices. He'll never be everything from all angles.

I think the part that sold the book to me was how Batman initially dismisses detective work as "Not my job," but later realizes his mistake and asks Gordon to teach him. Batman, making a mistake, changing his mind, and correcting himself? Unusual, and instantly endearing. It's really refreshing to see a Batman to whom none of this comes naturally, and for whom nothing can be taken for granted. It adds a dimension to the story that isn't normally present.
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Just picked this up the other day...havent read it yet. Im pretty excited for it tho
 
Wonder Woman: EO was an odd duck for sure. It's as accessible as anything Grant's ever written and he's clearly taking the piss out of the creator of WW, but I still really liked it.
 
Taking the piss out in what way? It seemed to me like he's just trying to modernize the concept, but I've not actually read it yet, just going by what he's said and we've seen so far. Marston's philosophy is somewhat similar to Morrison's in a lot of ways, but Marston's is generally completely misunderstood.
 
Will all this eventually lead to a Justice League Earth-One?
 
Tron Bonne said:
Taking the piss out in what way? It seemed to me like he's just trying to modernize the concept, but I've not actually read it yet, just going by what he's said and we've seen so far. Marston's philosophy is somewhat similar to Morrison's in a lot of ways, but Marston's is generally completely misunderstood.
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Grant read Marstons original notes and found them weird as hell. So he's definitely having a bit of fun with it.
 
great news! volume 1 was really interesting. It was quite simple for a grant's story, but it has a refreshing and different pace.
 
Just got Wonder Woman. I'll get to it soon enough. Read Superman Part 3 the other day. I like that Lex and Two-Face are women in this universe.
 
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