DC Relaunching Everything? - Part 1

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[HighFivingMF]

DC recently stated that Flashpoint #5 would be the only comic they would be shipping on August 31st from the entire company. So what’s to follow it on September the 6th?

Ten years after the world changed, looks like the DC world will be changing too. Bleeding Cool has already talked about a major renumbering of DC’s books post-Flashpoint. And it looks like that will occur the first week of September, across the DCU board, with everything going back to #1.

And the DC solicitations for August do seem to back that up. There’s a lot of finality going around…

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With Green Lantern books on epilogue, Teen Titans getting two issues out to hit and #100 in August and even more “things will never be the same again” solicitations than usual as well, everything is lining up for a big big change in September.

So why is everything going back to #1? And what does the end of Flashpoint mean for the rest of the titles?

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/05/17/dc-looking-to-relaunch-everything-in-september/

 

[CConn]

Yeah, I've been saying that since before they even announced the 'reboot'. The antsman41s out there who are having a meltdown are going nutter butter

Of course you were wrong about the Johns/Lee JLA.

 

[Tron Bonne]

Hey now, I never said it wouldn't ever happen, just that'd I'd heard that rumor pop up so much in the last few years I'm obligated to bust up on hippie whenever he predicts it

 

[Anubis]

Throw s**t at a wall long enough, some of it's bound to stick, and all that.

 

[yenaled]

Of course you were wrong about the Johns/Lee JLA.

To be fair, it being Lee, there is no guarantee of it ever seeing print.

 

[CConn]

Hey now, I never said it wouldn't ever happen, just that'd I'd heard that rumor pop up so much in the last few years I'm obligated to bust up on hippie whenever he predicts it

Shh, I'm teasing.

I didn't think it'd happen either.

 

[Franklin Richards]

Throw s**t at a wall long enough, some of it's bound to stick, and all that.

Go Mavs!!!

 

[Dreadstar]

DC, the only thing you will accomplish is turning off old existing readers by changing the characters they grew up. I get that they want to expand the market, BUT NOT AT THE EXPENSE OF THEIR OLDTIME FANS!

I am going to use this as an opportunity to take a break from all things DC. This reminds me very much of Marvels heroes reborn. After 1 year, things will go back to the way they should be.

SO I am done with DC after August. If Dc wants to "Brand New Day" themselves, then they can do it w/o me.

 

[Kurosawa]

DC, the only thing you will accomplish is turning off old existing readers by changing the characters they grew up. I get that they want to expand the market, BUT NOT AT THE EXPENSE OF THEIR OLDTIME FANS!

I am going to use this as an opportunity to take a break from all things DC. This reminds me very much of Marvels heroes reborn. After 1 year, things will go back to the way they should be.

SO I am done with DC after August. If Dc wants to "Brand New Day" themselves, then they can do it w/o me.

They've been telling their long-time readers to f-off since COIE.

 

[CConn]

DC, the only thing you will accomplish is turning off old existing readers by changing the characters they grew up. I get that they want to expand the market, BUT NOT AT THE EXPENSE OF THEIR OLDTIME FANS!

I am going to use this as an opportunity to take a break from all things DC. This reminds me very much of Marvels heroes reborn. After 1 year, things will go back to the way they should be.

SO I am done with DC after August. If Dc wants to "Brand New Day" themselves, then they can do it w/o me.

~ Unsubstantiated hyperbole ~

 

[The Morningstar]

How have DC been telling their long time readers to **** off since COIE?

Seems to me DC's biggest weakness in the mainstream side of things, was catering to the 40 year olds and ignoring getting new readers on board.

Case in point, Barry Allen.

 

[Roose Bolton]

Wheras Marvel is pretty much the opposite "oh so you grew up reading Peter with Mary Jane? Go **** yourself, the younger readers mean more to us than you ever will."

 

[The Morningstar]

haha true. Neither company has the balancing act right. That is a big reason why comic sales are at an all time low.

 

[roach]

i wish people would read up on whats going on instead of reacting to rumors

 

[Nightwing Z]

Wheras Marvel is pretty much the opposite "oh so you grew up reading Peter with Mary Jane? Go **** yourself, the younger readers mean more to us than you ever will."

 

[HighFivingMF]

We’ve already told you that the new Teen Titans #1 will be written by Scott Lobdell, pencilled by Brett Booth and inked by Norm Rapmund.

But what of the book? How much of a relaunch or a reboot will it be? Will it be a Green Lantern continuing the plots as normal, or a Firestorm, changing the rules?

It looks like it may be more the latter. As of Teen Titans #1, none of the Titans therein will have ever met before.

Oh and, tapping into that mention about DC being a more diverse range of characters, only four of the seven members will be white….

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/06/05/dc-relaunch-details-on-teen-titans-1/

 

[roach]

Batman number 1 cover

 

[CConn]

haha true. Neither company has the balancing act right. That is a big reason why comic sales are at an all time low.

Eh, I kinda doubt that. Overall comic sales always seem more based on Hype and collectibility rather than actual quality.

Like, despite the early 90s being filled with **** comics, sales were great because people thought all those #1s would actually be worth something later on. Nowadays, people are just financially disillusioned.

 

[CConn]

Batman number 1 cover

Who's the artist? I can't quite place it.

 

[roach]

Who's the artist? I can't quite place it.

Greg Capullo...he was the artist on Quasar then X-force and then took over Spawn when MacFarlane stopped drawing them. He did the Spawn/Batman book also

 

[HighFivingMF]

With the Teen Titans news I'm further convinced that most things are getting revamped with the exception of Green Lantern and Batman, who were plenty successful before-hand.

 

[Kurosawa]

How have DC been telling their long time readers to **** off since COIE?

Seems to me DC's biggest weakness in the mainstream side of things, was catering to the 40 year olds and ignoring getting new readers on board.

Case in point, Barry Allen.

Because COIE told the current readership and the long time readership at the time to **** off. And many of them took the invite and quit. Then Zero Hour told the rest of them to **** off. Then Infinite Crisis and Final Crisis told fans of your generation to **** off. Now this reboot might be telling everyone to **** off.

Or maybe they'll do the smart thing and try to bring everyone in.

 

[Franklin Richards]

And everyone would be ok with that except the Flash fans.


GL fans ultimately can get along because the characters that clash don't wear the same costume. Alan, Hal, and Kyle are best know in their own clothes. They do clash when it comes to 2814 or Earth as their jurisdiction but that problem is usually solved with expanding the assignment. "You're BOTH the officer for this sector."

With Flash the problem boils down to Wally fans having a death fetish for Barry and the fact that Wally started wearing the red bodysuit. Now no matter what happens he's always playing second fiddle to Barry in their eyes. And when I say eyes I mean the costume is a physical representation of that.

If Wally fans had seen him in his yellow togs as long as I saw him in them, they prolly wouldn't have a problem with him putting that suit or a variation of it back on and calling himself The Flash as well.

Jay.
Barry.
Wally.
Bart.

They are all Flashes too me. They just dress differently.

 

[Mr. Earle]

Who is Scott Lobdell? Is he any good? I mean i could google him but i'd just get a bunch of comics titles so i'd like a personal opinion.

On another note, if this is really a reboot, i'd be very interested in seeing the founding of the JL and the Titans, with new dynamics and stories of course. Specifically for the Titans, i think that they shouldnt be as organized as they used to be. I mean here we had some teens hanging out in a tower and doing monitor duty. I didnt like those teen cops. I liked them more in that TT: Year one i think it was called where they were just starting and they didnt have a base, computers and all that.

I think it would work better if they re just teens teaming up and hanging out, perhaps getting their missions from the JL like in the YJ cartoon, and so on. Also, lets hope that they re not a bunch of *****ebags and losers this time around and that they dont die in horrific ways every other issue. Finally, i hope we get this roster more or less (add Blackualad for example, but the cool one from YJ).