The Dark Knight Well....this is intresting? (Joker news)

[Two-Face]

True Socko.

 

[Babs Gordon]

one must also consider that in the second and third installations to the trilogy that less time will be spent focusing on batman developing and more time will be spent focusing on batman's work... i.e. the villains he's trying to cruuuuush like buuuugs. i think the villains will have plenty of screentime all in all.

 

[Mr. Socko]

Well I hope so

 

[Clerk]

I'm thinking the reduced screentime thing is no problem. You guys remember Batman The Long Halloween? Joker was in it like 3 times, and in just those three times they managed to make him crucial to the story while at the same time pleasing the reader. No worries.

 

[mcflytrap]

I need way more Joker than that . . . not necessarily 'screen time' . . . cuz one of the greatest movie villains of all time . . . John Doe in S7VEN, had a minimal amount of screen time, but was present throughout the film as the major threat . . .

but we don't have all the Batman origin build up in this one, so that leaves room for enough/more Joker . . .

Right you are.

 

[Dark Knight]

I see this my mind's eye:

Kill her dammit! ****in kill her dead dammit! The Joker ****in needs to ****in kill her ****in dead! With fire and a ****ing crowbar, dammit! Why the hell doesn't Nolan ****in listen to me, dammit! Mother ****er! She should be a dead *****! Dammit! *******s!

LOL....it's like the way the dad says it from Mike Myers film in So I Married an Ax Murderer. "I want her DEED!" Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

 

[Mr. Socko]

I'm thinking the reduced screentime thing is no problem. You guys remember Batman The Long Halloween? Joker was in it like 3 times, and in just those three times they managed to make him crucial to the story while at the same time pleasing the reader. No worries.

Ironically, I hated the Joker in TLH, and it wasn't just his stupid look that I disliked either.

 

[Dark Knight]

so my point was that let joker have all kinds of attention in the second movie... but keep him a wraith. we don't need to see him for him to be part of the plot. by role i really meant actual screen time.

but really we should save the screen time for #3.

that would be an interesting way to do it. Kinda like John Doe in Seven yes....and then show his actual face in the 2nd half of the movie mostly....but then show some major Joker scenes in the 3rd film.

 

[Dark Knight]

lol the only problem that i can see with that is that-- sure, in the comics she doesn't even exist. but most of the people who will see begins will never have picked up a batman comic, sad to say. they'll be going "what the hell happened to that chick" because her role was more significant than most of us would like to admit, at least with regard to the amount of attention she was given as a character. to kill her off just like that would be careless storytelling. i'm not saying she can't die, but at least give it a little more attention then "oh yeah... she died" somewhere in between.

i'm not talking about careless storytelling because I consider Chris Nolan a VERY good storyteller.......

 

[Dark Knight]

Actually, I was making fun of how many times I heard the "Kill Racheal" slogan. It's quite annoying.

It's quite annoying to have her insignificant character take up screentime that can be used for other WAY more significant characters...THATS annoying.....

 

[zer00]

I think I have come to terms with Joker being...well

But I always assumed this was going to happen. Atleast Bettany is gone

Just a shame J-man isn't going to getreally any props

 

[Mr. Socko]

i'm not talking about careless storytelling because I consider Chris Nolan a VERY good storyteller.......

I agree, but a story with very little Joker, is not a story I'll like.

 

[The Last Meatbag]

now that you mention it, I would love to see Jackman as the Joker.....if only he weren't Wolverine

 

[Dark Knight]

I agree, but a story with very little Joker, is not a story I'll like.

yeah...but i seriously don't think we will have to worry about that. At the end of Jetts report....he says "the Joker role certainly NOT be a cameo type of role." It'll be a strong supporting role.....plus remember....the focus should still remain on Bales Bruce Wayne/Batman.

 

[zer00]

yeah...but i seriously don't think we will have to worry about that. At the end of Jetts report....he says "the Joker role certainly NOT be a cameo type of role." It'll be a strong supporting role.....plus remember....the focus should still remain on Bales Bruce Wayne/Batman.

And to do that doesn't mean turning him into the Scarecrow or Ra's role of the story.

It's gone good in comics and cartoons for so long. People seem to forget that in those the Joker didn't outshadow Batman unless the story permited it. Like TKJ for example. They're not doing a Joker origin so...he'll just be Joker from the start so...having him have a small role and...more than likely un-joker like to an extent is a shame and not really needed. When it comes to a Batman and Joker story it is very possible to have your cake and eat it too.

 

[The Fallen]

OK people, I read this news last night and have slept on it.... I even had a dream about the movie and the Joker's "small, mysterious role"....

I like the idea, because quite frankly I'm sick of the good 'ol 'main villian threatens Gotham, Batman saves the day bit'. I can really see Joker being the 'wild card' in the underworld war that will be the man focus of the next movie. I mean look at the cast of characters that look to be in the movie:

Batman
Bruce Wayne (YES! I think they are separate!)
The Joker
Harvey Dent
Gordon
Alfred
Black Mask (or some other new underworld kingpin)
Flass
Loeb
Rachel?
Eearle (sp!)

And there are more rumored like Dr. Arkham, Harley Quinn, Pengin ect.

All those listed characters need development, Batman and Bruce Wayne mostly and Dent will need alot of screen time so we can relate to him and get to know the character, so when to become Two-Face, it's tragic, not just 'OK now he's Two-Face'.

Nolan wants this series to be 'a comic book movie, told in a realistic manner'

I like the idea of Joker being mysterious, It's a NEW take (movie wise) on a classic character. As long as be looks and acts like the Joker we all know and love, that's all that should matter.

Plus it will leave us fanboys/girls wanting MORE! Please do not over expose The Joker!

 

[Rynan]

I like the gangwar idea. It would be a nice backdrop for The Joker's mysterious machinations.

This was my opinion about on how The Joker would be played in the movie. I'm just repeating myself.

Batman once described The Joker in "The Joker's Five way Revenge" as "a one man plague. He comes, he kills and disappears" and I think that's the way they're going with him. We're going to see more of The Joker's handy-work than the man himself. It'll give us a chance to understand why people fear him, how his killings are near supernatural in efficency, and feel the protagonists frustration to catch a man that seemingly can't be caught. And will add a boost to The Joker making him that much more ominious and sinister.

If I'm right, it's going be something different and awesome.

 

[The Fallen]

^ Give Rynan a cookie damnit! Me likes that idea!

 

[Babs Gordon]

I think I have come to terms with Joker being...well

But I always assumed this was going to happen. Atleast Bettany is gone

Just a shame J-man isn't going to getreally any props

I wouldn't worry too much zer... I think they are going to do the character justice... I don't think they'd do it any other way honestly. And if, for the sake of story, that means shrouding the joker behind a little mystery for the second movie, I'm in favor.

 

[zer00]

Eh. I'll wait before I say anything good. Maybe that way I won't be dissapointed.

But dammit this is going to make me into a drug addict.

 

[Babs Gordon]

as long as you're not doped up for its release

 

[Hunter Rider]

Joker in a small role ? WOW that blows

 

[Babs Gordon]

what if someone told you that joker would have a principal villain role in 3? would that appease you?

 

[Hunter Rider]

what if someone told you that joker would have a principal villain role in 3? would that appease you?

Most certainly my dear Babs

 

[Mr. Socko]

Yes.

This mysterious and small trash is all just a rumor, I don't believe this garbage anymore. Wasn't Jett at first saying that Bettany was the #1 contender for the Joker, now he's saying Bettany is out of the running all together. He changes alot so I can't believe his garbage.

Nolan will do Joker justice, bank on that.