The Amazing Spider-Man 2 What difference would it make if this film was 3 hours like TDKR

[Victarion]

TDKR went by too fast. Really, time doesn't matter so long as you're making every second of your movie count. All that need be done is the filler and fluff cut and the weak spots shored up.

 

[spiderral]

It did in the sense that everything was from Oscorp. It didn't in that each of the plot lines , Max Dillon, Harry, Richard Parker, Oscorp following Peter, etc , were incomplete fragments which really didn't relate to each other beyond Oscorp being were they all came from. The sign of a tight story is that if you remove one element or a couple of elements the story as a whole suffers because they're interconnect.

They are interconnected because they all serve as part of the narrative arch. One of the problems is there isn't a real unifying narrative arch beyond the fact that these characters all work at Oscorp. The Peter Gwen stuff was the best but at the end of it , there really isn't any there, there. Its a series of set pieces and shifting tones but it really isn't that great a story. ASM 1 had a much better overall story imo.

Okay, I guess I know what you mean now and why it's a problem but it personally didn't really bother me. Even if TASM1 had a much more cohesive and straightforward story, I still prefer TASM2. I really liked the idea of how OsCorp wanted to hide Max's accident from the general public and other incidents; that was really interesting.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

Torture. But not of the body...of the soul.

 

[Victarion]

I think they should've centered the movie around how Peter and Harry are both influenced by their fathers' scientific legacies. Electro could've been a ready-made monstrosity kept under lock, an embarrassment and a failed experiment. Something created from Richard's research under Norman's guidance.

 

[spiderral]

I think they should've centered the movie around how Peter and Harry are both influenced by their fathers' scientific legacies. Electro could've been a ready-made monstrosity kept under lock, an embarrassment and a failed experiment. Something created from Richard's research under Norman's guidance.

That would have been a cool idea! Electro would have had to have been locked up for quite a while though (10+ years?).

 

[spiderman2]

TDKR needed every one of its 165 minutes, and probably a few more too in order to tell the story it was trying to tell. Fastest 2:45 movie I've ever seen...compare that to the The Hobbit films, which DRAG.

ASM-2 didn't need to be that long. What it needed was more focus IMO. It needed to have some elements trimmed down in order to better flesh out other elements. The parents storyline in particular feels like something that serves the "untold story" of the first movie (and possibly third movie?) more than it does anything crucial for this movie. Sure, Peter Peter denies Harry his blood I guess due to his belief that his father was a traitor and his work was suspect. Maybe? But even so, the resolution of that arc still doesn't have any impact on the main plot, that I can see anyway. I think they could've cut all of it and fleshed out Harry and Peter's relationship more and/or given Electro more to do.

It's not so much a matter of needing more "time to breathe" (nothing wrong with a fast paced film, especially a sequel), it's just a matter of the plot feeling flimsy and needing more connective tissue to make it a more cohesive experience. A more consistent tone for the movie might've helped with that too (or perhaps that would've naturally come about from a more focused script).

I mostley agree about TDKR 2:45 but I do think it was silly to have bruce try to get out of the pit 3 times should have got out the first time has it got kind of repetitive and could have maybe cut what 10 minutes if they had done that?

 

[Oscorp]

I think they should've centered the movie around how Peter and Harry are both influenced by their fathers' scientific legacies. Electro could've been a ready-made monstrosity kept under lock, an embarrassment and a failed experiment. Something created from Richard's research under Norman's guidance.

That's actually a really cool idea! Whoa, I love it even! Much better than what we got. This idea would solve many problems such as Max's forced backstory, the weird origin etc. It would also set him apart from the likes of Riddler, Killian etc.

I mostley agree about TDKR 2:45 but I do think it was silly to have bruce try to get out of the pit 3 times should have got out the first time has it got kind of repetitive and could have maybe cut what 10 minutes if they had done that?

You can't seriously mean that, right? It would've been so anti-climactic had Bruce succeeded in his first try.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

I think they should've centered the movie around how Peter and Harry are both influenced by their fathers' scientific legacies. Electro could've been a ready-made monstrosity kept under lock, an embarrassment and a failed experiment. Something created from Richard's research under Norman's guidance.

Wow. In less than a paragraph, I can realize that you would've made a better film than the actual writers of the film did.

 

[Victarion]

That would have been a cool idea! Electro would have had to have been locked up for quite a while though (10+ years?).

Sure. He'd sort of be a loser, as he is in the comics. I see him as being something of a demented manchild forcing himself to accept whatever lies he's been fed by OsCorp for the past 10+ years. Throw in some mommy issues too, like an overbearing parent or something.