The Amazing Spider-Man What do you want out of Spider-man 4???

I just want a darn good movie out of Spidey 4, you know?

I want friggin' Spidey to say "My Spidey sense are tingling" and I want ILM/WETA to do the visual effects.
 
if someone thought catwoman was the best movie ever then as far as they're concerned it IS the best movie ever. its all about opinions and no ones opinion is more valid than anyone elses. beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Exactly, I mean, as I said in my last post, Spider-Man has always appealed to me, as does the Spider-Man 2 film. I will admit though, TDK was a freakin awesome movie.
 
Spider-Man works best as a very young character, and despite Tobey being 34, he should play as young as is believable.

Spider-Man needs to crack jokes. Hire a Bill Hader (who just wrote SPIDER-MAN: THE SHORT HALLOWEEN) or somebody to add some jokes to the script.

While in costume, the mask must stay on for the vast majority of the time.

I fear a reaction to THE DARK KNIGHT from Sony that involves them wanting Sam to go as dark as possible. As little studio interference as possible is a good thing.

No forced connections to the bad guys, as there was with Sandman in SPIDER-MAN 3.

Play up Gwen Stacy as the main love interest in Peter's life and MJ as the ex-girlfriend.

A spectacle to rival the fight on the train between Doc Ock and Spider-Man in SPIDER-MAN 2.
 
I want a Spider-man movie that has him dealing with ethic problems and where to cross the line and where not to. There are so many great comics with Peter trying to deal with life issues outside the realm of Mary Jane. Thats the movies main problem, it makes Spider-Man to much into a love story. Have it at the side is ya want, yet not the main drive. Have Peter crack more jokes and if ya want a personal villian go with Lizard since he is already connected to Peter. You can have the struggle of Peter trying to save a friend yet questioning if he get violent, should he take him down for good. Add moral issues for Peter to face and it will be some fresh air from the love story that is strangling the series.
 
People are tired of MJ, but I want to see how Peter hitting her affects their relationship. He can say "Alien made me do it lol", but would she really believe him? It could even be a way to get her out of the picture and bring Gwen to the forefront as a love interest.
 
I'm not tired of MJ, but I'm sick & tired of Dunst! I'm sick of this MJ wannabe with no personality, oh but wait, I forgot: DUNST IS NO MJ!!:o

I want an actress with charm to play MJ and who is hot! Because that's how MJ is suppossed to be! This requires a different writting for the character as well though, but the actor/actress should be able to improve their character (even if it wasn't written properly), because that's what good actors do! And neither Tobey or Kirsten managed to do this.
 
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I agree! I preffer SM2 over TDK also, even though TDK is the superior movie here, obviously. It was nearly perfect, while SM2 had it's flaws and some things simply weren't done like they should've been done.

THANK YOU! Thats what I've been saying the whole time, but apparently no one can comprehend what their reading.... Anyone can LIKE Spiderman 2 better than TDK, but to say its a better film? No, from a quality of film perspective, TDK is easily a much better made film. AGAIN, my personal EXAMPLE: I like Dirty Harry more than the Godfather, but when I watch them back to back I know and can respect the fact the Godfather is the better film.
Personal preference, I like Dirty Harry more. Looking at the quality of the film, its easily The Godfather. Heck, I personally enjoy Crank quite alot, but it is a terrible movie. I enjoy Empire Strikes Back over The Two Towers, but Two Towers easily has better writting, acting, production..... Its freakin miles ahead of Empire Strikes Back.
 
I agree! I preffer SM2 over TDK also, even though TDK is the superior movie here, obviously. It was nearly perfect, while SM2 had it's flaws and some things simply weren't done like they should've been done.

I respectfully disagree.

Don't get me wrong, I love The Dark Knight ... But I can pick that movie apart just as much as Spider-Man 2.
 
I respectfully disagree.

Don't get me wrong, I love The Dark Knight ... But I can pick that movie apart just as much as Spider-Man 2.

That's the way I am. I love TDK, but you can start at the "Bat-Growl" and work your way down. It has its flaws (waits for those claiming it is "perfection" to tear me apart).

Spidey 2, had its own flaws as well...but they were just as few and as easily dismissed as the bat-growl was in TDK. I honestly think, when it comes down to two movies of this caliber, that it truly depends on which story/characters you prefer or can relate to the easiest. For me, its Spider-Man. For some, its Batman.

Heaven forbid peopel have differing opinions!!:wow:
 
Every movie has flaws. To quote a friend:

EEEEEEVERYOOOONEEEE!!!!!!!!
 
I want a great movie. I want affirmation of my suspicion that Raimi really knows what he's doing and is about to blow us away. I want a movie that is emotional and enthralling. I want to feel like I'm in the movie. I want to feel what Peter Parker feels. I want to feel like I'm Peter Parker. I don't want to see too much cheese, dancing, or overdramatic crying. I supply too much of that for myself, thank you. I want Michael Jackson to make a cameo. Okay, never mind that last part, but I want a great movie. Honestly, just because I feel like bringing it up, I think that Spidey 4 can easily beat TDK. I probably need to see TDK again to reevaluate it, but I was kind of bored when I saw it. This is all IMO, though.
 
Well there are these things that "The Dark Knight" did that Raimi really,really needs to do.

1.The villains never knew Batman's identity.
2.One of the villains had no back story,he was just there (Joker).
3.Bruce Wayne wasn't connected to the Joker,he was connected to him as Batman.
 
You could put in Venom for number two.

I mean, he was just there.

With maybe five minutes of story.
 
It's all he deserved.

Venom sucks. Most overrated villain ever. Raimi saw that.
 
You could put in Venom for number two.

I mean, he was just there.

Yes...let's just forget the two hours Raimi arkwardly attempted to put Brock in every scene he could. It's true about Raimi, though, he keeps repeating the same patterns all over again and it's very reminiscent of the old Batman movies with two villains where there'd be the main one, joined by a secondary one later for no reason other than targeting the hero. Raimi also has a tendancy to make his villains sympathetic, and he always finds a way to connect them to Peter, no matter how forced it is.
 
It's all he deserved.

Venom sucks. Most overrated villain ever. Raimi saw that.

Preach it.

I like Venom...and Venom is one of the coolest-LOOKING villians out there, but there is really no subtance to him. He's like the Chinese food of villians....he works for a little bit, but you're just going to be hungry for another villian again in an hour or two.
 
Raimi also has a tendancy to make his villains sympathetic, and he always finds a way to connect them to Peter, no matter how forced it is.

Really, Sandman is the only one that didn't work out. GG worked fine, Doc Ock worked brilliantly, Harry had already been set up and Eddie was like that in the comics.
 
* No Love triangle. The audience needs to be reminded of what made Peter and MJ such a good couple. Have them face a challange together that reinstates their faith in each other. They don't have to be together at the start but by the end they should be together

* Bring Aunt May back in the forefront . Maybe even drop some hints about Peter Parents though I'd leave out the Spy stuff.

* No Morbuis. The Lizard yes

* Bring back the fun and adventure of the first two films

* Develop the Spiderman identity more i.e his humor, his interaction with people

*
 
It's all he deserved.

Venom sucks. Most overrated villain ever. Raimi saw that.

He might be overrated, but I still prefer him than many of Spidey's villains. Not because he looks like a badass, but just because he only wants one thing, and that's not a plan to become a crime boss, but just to destroy Spider-Man. Also why I liked both of his arcs in TSSM.

And I guess Sam Raimi had to be a genius to write a better story for Brock though. Because a good story for Eddie Brock would've made Venom better as a whole, as Raimi got Venom spot on for the most part(thirst of revenge, minus asking Sandy for help). I mean, what would've been better is if Venom attacked all three(Spider-Man, Harry Osborn and Sandman). It would've just showed how sick Venom has become, with trying to kill all three as two of them are in his way.

But, that's just my opinion, lol.

And what TheScarecrow said, that is very true...Spider-Man 3 did seem like a Burton/Schumacher Batman flick. And that's why it seems like Raimi will be sticking with a one-villain per-movie this time around, but hopefully we get more villain and less love angst. Which, that works well for Raimi, he can't seem to write anything good that has more than one villain. Sure, he only tried with one movie, but he only did a half-ass job.
 
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He might be overrated, but I still prefer him than many of Spidey's villains. Not because he looks like a badass, but just because he only wants one thing, and that's not a plan to become a crime boss, but just to destroy Spider-Man. Also why I liked both of his arcs in TSSM.

And I guess Sam Raimi had to be a genius to write a better story for Brock though. Because a good story for Eddie Brock would've made Venom better as a whole, as Raimi got Venom spot on for the most part(thirst of revenge, minus asking Sandy for help). I mean, what would've been better is if Venom attacked all three(Spider-Man, Harry Osborn and Sandman). It would've just showed how sick Venom has become, with trying to kill all three as two of them are in his way.

But, that's just my opinion, lol.

And what TheScarecrow said, that is very true...Spider-Man 3 did seem like a Burton/Schumacher Batman flick. And that's why it seems like Raimi will be sticking with a one-villain per-movie this time around, but hopefully we get more villain and less love angst. Which, that works well for Raimi, he can't seem to write anything good that has more than one villain. Sure, he only tried with one movie, but he only did a half-ass job.

I would pay to see that.
 
I know what I don't want: Mary Jane being dangled from a high spot in peril...AGAIN! :cmad:

I also would just like Sam and company to go back to ONE villain. Especially with one like The Lizard, there is plenty of character there to easily sustain a feature-length story.

I have faith in Sam. It's the meddling powers that be that worry me. :csad:
 

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