What does Smallville have in common with Spider-Man?

[The Caped Knight]

Jedi was the worst of the original trilogy. The whole Endor thing with the Ewoks was lame. They served no purpose other than for Lucas to sell dolls. He basically admitted that he had planned originally to do that whole Endor thing on Kashyyk with the Wookiees but the marketers didnt think a million Chewie's would sell, which was ridiculous considering in the early 80's he was insanely popular.

If your young and that s the first one you ever saw in the theaters I can see how you might think it was cool, but it was no where near as cool as the first 2.

The Ewoks were cute, they were far better than Jar Jar and his kind in Episode I .

 

[Tempest19]

MANY similarities. Similarly to you, I started writing a virtual Spider-Man series that I plan to take to television producers in the near future. Peter Parker going through high school. Won't say anything else because then I would be giving the 'seeds' away and thus be handing the series ideas over.

But, there are many similarities. So the key is to focus on the differences.

A Spider-Man series, in a couple of years after the last Spidey film would be kick ass because there is ALOT of mythology to develop that the films haven't even touched on.

In fact, it was harder trying to make it different than Smallville than it was making it different than the films!

You've got Chloe as your Betty Brant type character. Who, I wonder if Gough and Millar knew this upon bringing her into the show. Because Peter used to 'date' Betty in a sense, having a very similar relationship that Clark has with Chloe.

Then you've got Lionel Luthor who could easily pass as Norman Osborn. I don't know if this was once again inspiration from Spidey or not. Lionell was in the comics- but was he always like Norman Osborn to Lex's Harry?

Clark and Peter are true heroes that always stick to what is right. And then they've got forces that get them to do what is wrong, the whole RedK- Spidey's got one too that I plan on using sometime.

So, yeah- many similarities. But, I view Smallville as a trial run and inspiration for where I plan to go with the Spidey series but I will hopefully have alot more open to me.

And can't say any more- because it's all "top secret" until i actually pitch it and either have it accepted or denied.

 

[04nbod]

Anakin is redeemed by the love of his Son Luke. But it's Luke who's the real Hero of the saga . He Destoryed Vader and brought back Anakin who destoryed Sidious .

Luke fullfilled The prophecy of the Chosen One . After 20 years of Darkness in The Galaxy as well as an unblance in The Force . The Force is balanced and The Galaxy is Free .

luke couldn't kill the emperor - vader did - he brought balance.
he could only do it because luke saved him-making luke a hero.

i actually think the force isn't in balance by the end because luke and leia are good and their still using it- meaning the balance is tipped in the jedi's favour but what can one do

 

[GL1]

luke couldn't kill the emperor - vader did - he brought balance.
he could only do it because luke saved him-making luke a hero.

i actually think the force isn't in balance by the end because luke and leia are good and their still using it- meaning the balance is tipped in the jedi's favour but what can one do

There we go, someone remembers the MAJOR plot point that Luke did not kill the Emporer, Anakin did, and since the Emporer was unbalancing the force, balance was brought back.

Obviously that balance can be quesitoned, but we can always assume there's some kid somewhere dabbling in the dark side to balance out Luke and Leia. I believe the EU books support this.

As for the topic, the use of Lionel Luthor as a series regular and principal villain character is what keeps me from assuming 'conincidence' in the Smallville-Man issue. Several otehr things can be attributed to standard superhero storytelling, most of them are streteches (EVERY superhero has a girl next door character? really?) but still conceptually, it could have been because of the similiarities between the characters and the fact that they are in the same genre.

Yet still, certain things, including the rich friend's father is a villain and deep outcast feelings (not traditionally a part of Superman lore) lead me to believe that the show was trying to capture some Spider-Man sensibility to get it's start.

Also on the comparisons, when you see a picture of MJ, you say "Oh, it's Mary Jane" not "Mary Jane Watson" eevn though that's her full name. When you see a pictuer of Lois Lane you don't say "Oh, there's Lois." you say her full name. These two names rhyme, feeding further the other parallels betwen Supe and Spidey.

As for alliteration, it seems Clark Kent is not alleterative, yet it 'sounds' alliterative since they both start with the same sound. He is furthermore surroudned by alliterative names. Peter Parker also sounds alliterative (cuz it is). These two aspects of the characters are comparable, even if CK doesn't fit textbook alliteration. To say that the alliteration of Peter Parker was not inspired by the Alliteration in Clark Kent's world is... hilarous.

 

[Gianakin_]

Ooooh, Star Wars, my favorite movies ever!
Well, let me start by saying that I loved the Prequels more than the Originals. Flame all you want, but this won't change what I think. My order is:
Revenge
Empire
Attack
Phantom
Hope
Jedi (though I can't decide between the last two).

Empire set the standards very high, and Jedi did not rise up to the occasion. The final battle in the forest was a joke IMO (yeah, the Empire's best legion lost to a bunch of shampoo bears), the space battle was pure ownage and the Luke/Vader was... what? Nothing. No tension not anything. Only the last few seconds where Luke gets angry and even those are as bad choreographed as any Xena/ Hercules episode. Sorry. Although any scene containing the Emperor was majestic.
As far as the Prophecy is concerned: During Eps1-3 there are 2 Sith and thousands of Jedi. By the end of Ep3, there are 2 Jedi (Obi and Yoda) and 2 Sith (Sid and Vader).
In Ep4, a Jedi dies (Obi) and a Jedi is born (Luke), same goes for Ep5.
In Ep6, Yoda dies and we have no Jedi (I'll elaborate) and 2 Sith.
By the end of the Saga, Anakin returns (so there is one Jedi and one Sith) and kills Sid and then dies. So, no Jedi, no Sith.
When I said there were no Jedi and 2 Sith in Ep6, it was because I don't consider Luke of Ep6 to be a conventional Jedi of old (a Prequel Jedi, if you will). Kal-El8, since you've read the EU, I trust you agree with me on this characterization of Luke.
And that was the point. The Jedi of old were rotten and lost their path, they needed cleansing (all of that shown in tha face of Mace Windu, that's why I loved his part). Anakin did that, completing one part of the Prophecy.
Anakin for me is the Chosen One. He lost his way and Luke brought him back to complete his role. So, IMO Luke was the catalyst (a big one) but Anakin was always the Chosen One.

Now, as to why I like the Prequels more, it's off topic (to this "off topic-ed" thread), but let me say this:
Loved the action more.
Loved the secondary characters more (Grievous, Mace Windu, Dooku, Jango Fett were better than Lando "Apollo Creed" Calrissian or Boba "handled like a punk" Fett).
Effects are equal, since we are talking about different times.
Story... well, the Prequels are darker for me (a plus in my book) and have an actual spanning story throughout the movies that is more than "Luke and his happy company in new merry adventures".
Plus, some touches that bothered me in the Originals (like cowboy Solo, ruins A New Hope for me. The Ewoks, yes, I don't like Jar Jar either, but at least the Gungans in general persuade me they are a species that can fight- and fight well, their weapons I found very cool. The Ewoks are nothing but just cute. Also, bad idea to make Leia a Skywalker. She wasn't used at all in Ep6, considering she was now Vader's daughter. Uncle George should have stuck with the original idea, to bring in a new character to be Luke's sister).
That being said, I love all of them and watch them as one movie (Just like I watch Smallville as one big, VERY big Saga). I do discretions only among the movies themselves.
Just my 0.02 Euros, anyway!

 

[Lighthouse]

Jedi was the worst of the original trilogy. The whole Endor thing with the Ewoks was lame. They served no purpose other than for Lucas to sell dolls. He basically admitted that he had planned originally to do that whole Endor thing on Kashyyk with the Wookiees but the marketers didnt think a million Chewie's would sell, which was ridiculous considering in the early 80's he was insanely popular.

If your young and that s the first one you ever saw in the theaters I can see how you might think it was cool, but it was no where near as cool as the first 2.

True, but the scenes with the Emperor, Luke, and Vader pretty much redeemed the film for me. Its worth watching for those scenes.

 

[BasinCityBlues]

Im not sure if anyone else brought this up but Clark and Milton Fine and Peter Parker and Dr. Curt Connors are strikingly similar. They both are somewhat friends but became enemies.

 

[04nbod]

so are obi wan and anakin- its a standard motif of mythology

damn taking it to star wars again- but it does have every mythological motif

 

[Eddie Brock]

how...in the hell....did this topic change to Star Wars?!

 

[04nbod]

we got into talking about mythological stories and how thay are replicated over and over again-hence star wars- then some people said luke was the chosen one not anakin and others had to put them in their place.

and now where here.

 

[Kaboom]

hijacked.!

 

[Kaboom]

brain and i do good work