Comics What is Marvel thinking?!

[Spider-Gnome]

It may be a Tony Stark situation, but the character is still Peter Parker. And Slott has shown he knows how to handle Peter. He's just in a new situation. Should be interesting to see how Pete handles the new lifestyle. Maybe down the line, Parker has to deal with another big business man - Norman Osborn.

Oh, and I don't like the new costume. The glow looks cheesy. Just stick with the classic (and please don't let this new suit be an indication of the new MCU movie suit).

 

[Webhead2006]

i hope it isnt always glowing.

 

[Webhead2006]

Axel talks to cbr:

Speaking of Spider-characters:
in the new "Amazing Spider-Man," Peter Parker is now a global success with Parker Industries. Dan Slott has built quite a history with Peter since coming on board "Amazing Spider-Man" in 2008 -- what's intriguing to you about his latest take on the character?

Alonso:
Dan and his incredible collaborators -- Humberto Ramos, Giuseppe Camuncoli, Olivier Coipel, Adam Kubert, Stefano Caselli and a few others -- have put "Amazing Spider-Man" consistently back in the top 10 while telling some of the biggest Spider-Man stories ever: from "Big-Time" to "Spider-Island" to "Ends of the Earth" to "Superior Spider-Man" to "Spider-Verse" to "Renew Your Vows." It's one of those situations where you want to get out of the way of your creative team and let them work their magic. "Worldwide" pushes Peter's journey to the next level. Remember when Doc Ock took control of Peter's body? Well, it turns out that the Superior Spider-Man actually did some things right and Peter's decided to incorporate some of that into his game. You'll see an innovative, inventive and invested Spider-Man all around the world

 

[Themanofbat]

Is that directed at me? Not sure where you got that.

Not you... The first guy...

 

[Spider-Gnome]

Hey, TMOB, are you coming back? I was thinking of continuing with Secret Wars and seeing how that goes and to see "Renew Your Vows" (you know my stance about the marriage). But I figured if this is a massive reboot, now might be a good time to finally end it (I'm 50, after all). But, this sounds like it might be interesting, and is an extension of what Slott's been doing, Big Time through Superior.

 

[3dman27]

I think the question should be "what is DISNEY thinking ? "
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[Spider-Aziz]

Let him grow, let him make whatever gadgets he want, I think he deserves to grow into that role.
Hopefully, he will get married at one point, and if not to MJ, maybe to.... uuuuuhhhhhhhhhh.......
Someone new, mixing the best of both Gwen and MJ, with Liz's ability to manage a big industry.

 

[Webhead2006]

Come on disney doesn't really have any say in marcek. It is pretty much it's own thing. Look at all the companies they own and things are left alone.

 

[C Prometheus]

Let him grow, let him make whatever gadgets he want, I think he deserves to grow into that role.
Hopefully, he will get married at one point, and if not to MJ, maybe to.... uuuuuhhhhhhhhhh.......
Someone new, mixing the best of both Gwen and MJ, with Liz's ability to manage a big industry.

In all honesty, I think the only ladies who Peter could get married to at this point besides MJ are Felicia or Gwen. Granted he'd need to reconcile with Felicia or resurrect Gwen before that could ever happen, but it's really down to the big three.

That's the real issue with making Peter single again, because after twenty years of being married to MJ, it'd be insanely difficult for writers to come up with a love interest for Peter that can be distinct enough from the Big Three and have her own unique and engaging relationship with Peter too. Besides, the writers these days are more interested in just coming up with brief dating partners for Peter, not anyone that he'd really tie the knot with.

 

[Webhead2006]

i did enjoy the carlie relationship before that went south.

 

[Angryfantasyfan]

Let him grow, let him make whatever gadgets he want, I think he deserves to grow into that role.
Hopefully, he will get married at one point, and if not to MJ, maybe to.... uuuuuhhhhhhhhhh.......
Someone new, mixing the best of both Gwen and MJ, with Liz's ability to manage a big industry.

I've always found it funny that fans try to come up with different women to be Mrs. Spider-Man when Marvel has been pretty upfront that they don't want Peter to be married to anyone.

 

[DACrowe]

Plus, what is funny about the Mary Jane relationship is that writers almost by accident made her someone he'd marry. First by making her more serious after Gwen died, then revealing she figured out he was Spider-Man on her own, and then being his confidant.

It just sort of organically happened. They weren't aware they were writing themselves into that corner until Stan Lee made them get married in his comic strip, placing Shooter between a rock and a hard place.

Now, Marvel will do everything they can to prevent that from happening again. But consequently, this is also why they will never create a better love interest or a more interesting female counterpart to Peter than Mary Jane. So, again, we are stuck in this nexus where they have to have short-sighted publicity stunts like "Spider Stark Inc." angle. Oh well.

 

[Webhead2006]

for me if it wasnt with mj, i would want him with felicia i always enjoyed them. Before they went and made her evil again.

Hey speaking of the spidey newsprint strip. That is still currently on going right. If so where can i go online to read it from when it started to present day? I have always heard of it. But that is one spidey area i never read myself.

 

[C Prometheus]

Plus, what is funny about the Mary Jane relationship is that writers almost by accident made her someone he'd marry. First by making her more serious after Gwen died, then revealing she figured out he was Spider-Man on her own, and then being his confidant.

It just sort of organically happened. They weren't aware they were writing themselves into that corner until Stan Lee made them get married in his comic strip, placing Shooter between a rock and a hard place.

Now, Marvel will do everything they can to prevent that from happening again. But consequently, this is also why they will never create a better love interest or a more interesting female counterpart to Peter than Mary Jane. So, again, we are stuck in this nexus where they have to have short-sighted publicity stunts like "Spider Stark Inc." angle. Oh well.

Exactly.

However, I do think it'd be possible for Felicia to jump up a spot or two as one of Peter's best romances (she's already Number 3 at least) if the writers were interested in dabbling about with her relationship with Peter and seeing how she could grow as a character.

But as things currently stands, that's pretty much null, as she's been forced by writing into being a villain again and wants to get revenge on Peter. That obviously needs to be reconciled.

 

[Webhead2006]

i am sure she and peter will reconcil in the near future. And she be put more back in the moral grey area then the black and fully evil deal.

 

[C Prometheus]

i am sure she and peter will reconcil in the near future. And she be put more back in the moral grey area then the black and fully evil deal.

Indeed.

However, even then, the writers would have to want to write Peter and Felicia as a couple again, with the intent of it/being open to the idea that it won't end the same way it has every time prior.

 

[Themanofbat]

Hey, TMOB, are you coming back? I was thinking of continuing with Secret Wars and seeing how that goes and to see "Renew Your Vows" (you know my stance about the marriage). But I figured if this is a massive reboot, now might be a good time to finally end it (I'm 50, after all). But, this sounds like it might be interesting, and is an extension of what Slott's been doing, Big Time through Superior.

If it's a full blown reboot, there's no question.

Truthfully, the last Spider-Man comic I've read was Superior #31... I have all of them, but I've not read any of the new ASM run... So even if it's a tweaked continuation... I think I am done... I'm just struggling with the "letting go" part...

 

[3dman27]

for me if it wasnt with mj, i would want him with felicia i always enjoyed them. Before they went and made her evil again.

Hey speaking of the spidey newsprint strip. That is still currently on going right. If so where can i go online to read it from when it started to present day? I have always heard of it. But that is one spidey area i never read myself.

I think you can find it online if it's still going

 

[Webhead2006]

i dont think its a probably with peter dating as we saw during slott run so far peter had carlie for awhile, and when otto took over he had anna marie. So i dont think they have a issue with him dating and have a relationship for awhile. Its probably just they dont want marriage. Which is funny when dc wiped out all theirs with new 52. Marvel keeps on trucking with reed/sue, jones/cage, etc..... married guys in the marvel u. So i am sure in the future again post joey q we probably will see peter get married again.

any one know online i can look for the spider-man comic strip series.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

In all honesty, I think the only ladies who Peter could get married to at this point besides MJ are Felicia or Gwen. Granted he'd need to reconcile with Felicia or resurrect Gwen before that could ever happen, but it's really down to the big three.

That's the real issue with making Peter single again, because after twenty years of being married to MJ, it'd be insanely difficult for writers to come up with a love interest for Peter that can be distinct enough from the Big Three and have her own unique and engaging relationship with Peter too. Besides, the writers these days are more interested in just coming up with brief dating partners for Peter, not anyone that he'd really tie the knot with.

I think a new one can happen.
Maybe this Anne Marconi lady should continue as love interest.

i did enjoy the carlie relationship before that went south.

Ditto.

I've always found it funny that fans try to come up with different women to be Mrs. Spider-Man when Marvel has been pretty upfront that they don't want Peter to be married to anyone.

We miss the marriage.
Someone might do it, some EiC might come later and decide "Let's tie Spider-Man's knot again, it's going to be good."
Without the fiasco the character went through starting with publicly unmasking, and it was not what registration was about.

Plus, what is funny about the Mary Jane relationship is that writers almost by accident made her someone he'd marry. First by making her more serious after Gwen died, then revealing she figured out he was Spider-Man on her own, and then being his confidant.

It just sort of organically happened. They weren't aware they were writing themselves into that corner until Stan Lee made them get married in his comic strip, placing Shooter between a rock and a hard place.

I think John Semper jr (one of the minds behind the 90s animated series) suggested the marriage idea to Stan, because he got tired of the limbo of never aging Spider-Man was in after college.

 

[DACrowe]

Exactly.

However, I do think it'd be possible for Felicia to jump up a spot or two as one of Peter's best romances (she's already Number 3 at least) if the writers were interested in dabbling about with her relationship with Peter and seeing how she could grow as a character.

But as things currently stands, that's pretty much null, as she's been forced by writing into being a villain again and wants to get revenge on Peter. That obviously needs to be reconciled.

Which is also lazy, because it turns her into even more of a Catwoman clone. What made her fairly unique is that she knew who Spider-Man was and was a reformed thief. She was not quite a femme fatale, but an erstwhile sidekick that desperately wants/wanted to be back in Peter's life after the flame blew out.

Funnily enough, one of the first Dan Slott tales I read was an issue of the Back in Black days told from her POV; viewing how Peter, MJ, and May judge her, yet how she still helps them. It was an interesting angle that actually I think played a role in how Jeph Loeb changed the Bat/Cat dynamic in the 2000s beginning with Hush.

But now she is basically Marvel's Catwoman again. Catwoman in The Dark Knight Rises is closer to how Black Cat was originally depicted than what they are doing now.

But yes, I could see her reclaiming the relationship she had with Peter in the early '80s comics. But that would mean he was in a real relationship. Cannot have that these days.

 

[C Prometheus]

I think a new one can happen.
Maybe this Anne Marconi lady should continue as love interest.

Sure, it could happen. Anything could happen.

In all honesty though, if Peter ever ends up marrying a brand new love interest, I'd be willing to wager that it'd be a same-sex relationship. Nothing wrong with that necessarily, but I feel like that'd really be the only thing that would get Marvel interested in treating a brand spankin' new love interest seriously for Peter. So unless that happens, I'm thinking that if Peter marries again, it'll be with either MJ or Felicia (unless some idiot decides to resurrect Gwen).

So far, it doesn't seem like any of the new love interests really have that "timeless" quality about them that MJ, Felicia and Gwen all had. The only one would be Anna Maria, but she's really more Otto's love interest than Peter's.

 

[C Prometheus]

Which is also lazy, because it turns her into even more of a Catwoman clone. What made her fairly unique is that she knew who Spider-Man was and was a reformed thief. She was not quite a femme fatale, but an erstwhile sidekick that desperately wants/wanted to be back in Peter's life after the flame blew out.

Funnily enough, one of the first Dan Slott tales I read was an issue of the Back in Black days told from her POV; viewing how Peter, MJ, and May judge her, yet how she still helps them. It was an interesting angle that actually I think played a role in how Jeph Loeb changed the Bat/Cat dynamic in the 2000s beginning with Hush.

But now she is basically Marvel's Catwoman again. Catwoman in The Dark Knight Rises is closer to how Black Cat was originally depicted than what they are doing now.

But yes, I could see her reclaiming the relationship she had with Peter in the early '80s comics. But that would mean he was in a real relationship. Cannot have that these days.

Indeed. It's a shame though, because when done right, Peter and Felicia have a fun dynamic together. It'd take some serious work and hard thinking, but putting them together in a new long-term relationship somewhere down the road could really bring in some interesting results.

That said, my personal preference is for Peter to reunite with MJ (at least in the 616-verse). However, if Marvel doesn't want him to hook up with her again, I think Felicia's really the best option to go with.

 

[Webhead2006]

i doubt they ever turn peter gay/bi and have him marry a dude. Again we are bound to see new relationships with new characters or new romances with old flames again and maybe marriage again in the future. Nothing is ever locked from happening.

Speaking of 616 name, post secret wars has marvel made any comments as this is what the main verse is still going to be called. Or does it have a totally new and different name/numbering order. As we do know certain worlds/time different dimensions like 2099, and spider-gwen worlds are surviving secret wars.

 

[Spider-Gnome]

If it's a full blown reboot, there's no question.

Truthfully, the last Spider-Man comic I've read was Superior #31... I have all of them, but I've not read any of the new ASM run... So even if it's a tweaked continuation... I think I am done... I'm just struggling with the "letting go" part...

Sorry to hear that. I'll admit, it hasn't been quite as strong since Superior ended. I honestly thought something bigger would happen to get Pete back, probably dealing with the "soul molecule" Slott set up earlier. It just seemed rushed to line up with ASM2.

Maybe I'm not ready to let go. I liked what Slott did with Big Time, so I'll see how it goes with the new international Parker. Might be interesting as long as Slott writes Pete as Pete, despite his success.


I was wondering, 'Bats, since you don't post much in the movie forum, what your thoughts were on the MCU Spider-Man, or if you even care? I didn't like the Webb Amazing films, so I very happy Marvel is getting a crack at him. Feige's comments in interviews have me very excited for these movies.