What Is The Right Religion?

[Super Kal]

Dude...Satanism is a form of religion, or at the very least worship. ...I think you just unintentionally made an argument against religion (i.e., inter-religion conflict). t:

you honestly think I don't know that it's a religion?... of course I know it is one... the only reason it's there though is to make a mockery out of the Christian faith.

 

[Carcharodon]

But there's an actual Church Of The Devil in California.

Oh, that? That's actually the secret Republican Headquarters.

 

[Carcharodon]

BTW:

FTW.

 

[Kritish]

But there's an actual Church Of The Devil in California.

There's been cameras in there, during an interview the "pastor" said the same thing that I did, it's a mockery. Look up the History show "Hell: The Devil's Domain".

 

[Victarion]

I truly think that there Satanists who worship him for real.

We have some in the area: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Claiborne

They hang out there and in the Kisatchie National Forest. We've poked around some of their old worship sites, found bones and a few of their funny little symbols. Fortunately we didn't run into them.

Back on topic, I'll say Christianity-baptist, catholic, you know.

 

[Kritish]

We have some in the area: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Claiborne

They hang out there and in the Kisatchie National Forest. We've poked around some of their old worship sites, found bones and a few of their funny little symbols. Fortunately we didn't run into them.

Back on topic, I'll say Christianity-baptist, catholic, you know.

Satanists don’t really believe in that stuff, it’s all a farce to them because they think it mocks Christianity. Look up the hellfire club sometime, and not the X-men thing Mart Twain was even in it.

 

[Kritish]

I think you should steer clear of religion altogether. It's really only a way to make people buy things like big overpriced Crusifixes or giant golden Buddahs. Just watch a load of t.v, it'll brainwash you just the same

t:

 

[Super Kal]

just do your research on all of them and make up your own mind... you probably shouldn't listen to us.

 

[sassycat]

agreed!

 

[XtromaniaK]

To you. To others like me, kakarot and millions of other deeply religious people (some of, like Ghandi, Martin Luther King Jr. and our Founing Fathers, were some of the most intelligent people ever), religion has just as much truth as science. So for you negate our beliefs is just arrogant, stupid and cruel.

If science turns its believers into arrogant, miserable, bigoted, insulting idiots, than I'm proud to be the brainwashed spiritual dumbass I am in your eyes.

Actually, almost all of the Founding Fathers were irreligious or atheists.

John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, and Thomas Paine were all either non-believers, or agnostic. George Washington never went on record with his with his beliefs, either. Don't delude yourself.

"Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise." - J. Madison

"Experience witnesseth that ecclesiastical establishments, instead of maintaining the purity and efficacy of religion, have had a contrary operation. During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution." - J. Madison

"As I understand the Christian religion, it was, and is, a revelation. But how has it happened that millions of fables, tales, legends, have been blended with both Jewish and Christian revelation that have made them the most bloody religion that ever existed?" - J. Adams

"I almost shudder at the thought of alluding to the most fatal example of the abuses of grief which the history of mankind has preserved-- the Cross. Consider what calamities that engine of grief has produced!" - J. Adams

"Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, imprisoned; yet we have not advanced an inch towards uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites. To support roguery and error all over the earth." - T. Jefferson

"Shake off all the fears of servile prejudices, under which weak minds are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call on her tribunal for every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear." - T. Jefferson

"Religious controversies are always productive of more acrimony and irreconcilable hatreds than those which spring from any other cause. Of all the animosities which have existed among mankind, those which are caused by the difference of sentiments in religion appear to be the most inveterate and distressing, and ought most to be depreciated. I was in hopes that the enlightened and liberal policy, which has marked the present age, would at least have reconciled Christians of every denomination so far that we should never again see the religious disputes carried to such a pitch as to endanger the peace of society." - G. Washington

". . . Some books against Deism fell into my hands. . . It happened that they wrought an effect on my quite contrary to what was intended by them; for the arguments of the Deists, which were quoted to be refuted, appeared to me much stronger than the refutations; in short, I soon became a thorough Deist." - B. Franklin

"Of all the tyrannies that affect mankind, tyranny in religion is the worst." - T. Paine

"What is it the New Testament teaches us? To believe that the Almighty committed debauchery with a woman engaged to be married; and the belief of this debauchery is called faith." - T. Paine

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[/FONT]Bigoted? Yeah, that would be you my friend. I'm not forcing my beliefs on you, nor am I saying I have the best, clean cut way to think. Idiocy would also be re-affirmed for yourself, considering that you make blind accusations like the aforementioned. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of your belief structure.

 

[Super Kal]

I'm not gonna force anything on him... he has to make up his own mind.

 

[Halcohol]

This is still the best post in this entire thread.

 

[Carcharodon]

That was a total ****ing ripoff of Rowan Atkinson's act.

[YT]http://youtube.com/watch?v=eJA9RPX9mRY[/YT]

 

[Arkady Rossovich]

Maybe it's just me getting older, but every day I wonder more and more about the meaning of life, why things happen as they do, and how we all got here. I've never really believed or didn't-believe in a "supreme being" or "beings", I just thought more about the "here and now".

But anyway, I was hoping some of you could share some of your personal experiences, hopefully offer some direction, or advice. I don't know. If you believe in a God or Gods I'd like to hear from you.

Even if people here did say good things,in the end..you would have to think for yourself.There is no right answer,only the answer you come up with.

 

[Warhammer]

Damn, b****es, y'all already started flaming...

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Early Buddhism...it's 100% correct.

 

[Leto Atrides]

Actually, almost all of the Founding Fathers were irreligious or atheists.

John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, and Thomas Paine were all either non-believers, or agnostic. George Washington never went on record with his with his beliefs, either. Don't delude yourself.

Um, most of the founding fathers were religious. Some of the more well known ones were Deists, i.e., they believe in God, just not specifically. Jefferson was the only one known to be nonreligious, and he held Jesus up as history's greatest philosopher. This argument is really flawed, I wish people would stop making it.

I'm an atheist too. Not so much you, but Smirnoff and Barbossa are being asses and making us look bad. I say everyone just abandon this thread as ill-conceived and move on.

 

[Speedball]

What is the right religion?
If I say one, that will make me seem like I think all other religions are wrong, which I don't believe.
So I say the right religion is whichever religion you feel like you belong to best and makes you feel the best.

 

[lars573]

There is only one right religion.

The church of the flying spaghetti monster. His noodly appendage shall smite all none belivers!

 

[psychocheeseman]

There is no right religion, you should just got with what you feel best suites you.

The whole Big Bang and the elements, chemicals, etc. that we evolved from could not have just come from nowhere. Everything must have a beginning.

I like how you cite the notion that "everything must have a beginning" and then claim the most likely begining was a creater that has no begining....

I never said it was the "best". It said it was the simplest and clearest path.

If any specific religion was the simplest and clearest path then one would assume that people, left to there own devices, would all "discover" a similar religion. All religions differ.

Hitler, despite being a Roman Catholic, used evolutionary thought process for The Holocaust.

Eugenitics is a not an evolutionary science. Hitler looked at people as breeding stock, in much the same way farmers conduct selective breeding. It does not revolve around a belief in evolution in the same way that marrying a blonde lady in an attempt to have blonde children would not negate a belief in creation. If he had a stern understanding of evolution and the survival of the fiutest he would have understood that variation is the key to survival and a wider genetic pond wwould be a better thing for the long term survival of humanity.

Um, most of the founding fathers were religious. Some of the more well known ones were Deists, i.e

glad someone pointed that out. Deists are often also regarded as agnostics or even pantheists. The term "god" is a very effective tool in spach as it is encompassing of so many moral attributes worth striving towards. During that period, the upper classes were generally of the opinion that it may be dangerous to let the lower classes know that there was no god, as religion encouraged social cohesion and civil obedience.

 

[Kritish]

But there's an actual Church Of The Devil in California.

It's called a Church, but it's not a religon. I can call something a church all I want and it still doesn't make it a church. Satanists don't think Satan exists.

 

[Kritish]

Um, most of the founding fathers were religious.

There's a big difference between being a diest and being a Christian.

 

[Warhammer]

Come on, guys.
This is the Hype, and nobody thought of this one?

What is the right religion?
I believe in him. You should, too.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Evolution, if that's what you're referring to, doesn't prove jack****. Even if it's true, it doesn't negate the existence of a higher power. The whole Big Bang and the elements, chemicals, etc. that we evolved from could not have just come from nowhere. Everything must have a beginning.

The notion of things having a beginning, middle and end like they were some movie or book is a concept humans develop to help them deal with, in their minds, the passage of time as we preceive it. It isn't necessarily actually the case. Time in fact may need no beginning and the arbitrary distinctions we make between passing moments may be just that -- arbitrary and without basis.

Many Scientists believe time is "unreal" and it is just what the clock says it is, a measurement. Western, specifically Biblical notions of time paint time as linear progresses to an ultimate end, whereas modern thought is not so sure.

Trying to ask what "time" was before the Big Bang is, in essence, like asking what is north of the north poll. The question is irrelevant and unknowable.

 

[Carcharodon]

The notion of things having a beginning, middle and end like they were some movie or book is a concept humans develop to help them deal with, in their minds, the passage of time as we preceive it. It isn't necessarily actually the case. Time in fact may need no beginning and the arbitrary distinctions we make between passing moments may be just that -- arbitrary and without basis.

Many Scientists believe time is "unreal" and it is just what the clock says it is, a measurement. Western, specifically Biblical notions of time paint time as linear progresses to an ultimate end, whereas modern thought is not so sure.

Uh...time had a beginning. This is pretty much accepted among the scientific community, physicists in particular.

As for your edit...no. Time is not unreal, it's simply not an absolute according to the General Relativity Theory. Time is very real and intimately tied into space. WTF have you been reading?