The Dark Knight Rises What I've realized about Chris Nolan's Batman...

[The Major]

Nolan has limited himself with what characters he can use,

He's only not able to do the wildly campy characters which wouldn't fit into his world no matter what like Ventriloquist or Man-Bat.

The majority he could still execute they would just be more realistic versions. That is not impossible. It would be interesting to see which direction he'd take them in film.

 

[TimidationGame]

Joel Schumacher's weren't dark.t:

You're right, they were more like technicolor rainbow

 

[The Major]

Good job. Did you figure that out by yourself? Hence the genre "comic book movie". My point is Chris Nolan is limiting himself to how much fantasy he puts into these movies, when a lot of the characters that would be pretty great to introduce are pretty fantastic, such as: The Penguin, Man-Bat, Killer Croc, Clayface, Scarface, The Mad Hatter, etc.

Not all of those characters would be impossible to fit in Nolan's films.

Scarface could be used as a cameo not that he's that good a villain to have a movie about, Clayface would be unusable, Mad Hatter might work there's lots of weird, twisted stuff they could do with him, Man-Bat's not going to happen, Penguin could just be an ugly mob boss/arms dealer/informant and Croc could just be a thug with skin disease.

Most of Batman's rogues would be easy to adapt. There are many interesting directions they could go in with them.

 

[Julio Alejandro]

You're right, they were more like technicolor rainbow

They were gay.

 

[SuperZer0]

If you don't like Nolan's take on Batman and his universe, then just wait when he's done with the next movie and you'll see someone else take over with a different interpretation. I believe the next one will be his last Batman movie. I don't think he wants to do this forever. BTW, I heard Zack Snyder (the guy who did 300) is interested in directing the Justice League film, and yes Batman will be in it. That's gonna be awesome, in a 300 kinda way, if he's the director.

 

[flickchick85]

He's only not able to do the wildly campy characters which wouldn't fit into his world no matter what like Ventriloquist or Man-Bat.

The majority he could still execute they would just be more realistic versions. That is not impossible.

...that was my point in the rest of the sentence I posted...

 

[The Major]

If you don't like Nolan's take on Batman and his universe, then just wait when he's done with the next movie and you'll see someone else take over with a different interpretation. I believe the next one will be his last Batman movie. I don't think he wants to do this forever. BTW, I heard Zack Snyder (the guy who did 300) is interested in directing the Justice League film, and yes Batman will be in it. That's gonna be awesome, in a 300 kinda way, if he's the director.

Snyder is interested in doing a Dark Knight Returns adaption.

Since JL is delayed he'd be great on Green Lantern, Flash, Green Arrow or Wonder Woman.

 

[Julio Alejandro]

Yeah. I thought about the possibility that the next one is Nolan's last, and it can go a slightly new direction maybe with someone like Gore Verbinski directing.

 

[gwynplaine]

What I've realized about Chris Nolan's Batman (TDK)is that it is possibly one of the greatest film of all time and definitely the greatest comic book movie of all time. IMO.

 

[hitpehoaos]

double post, sorry

 

[hitpehoaos]

Lets never mention that name again. There are only 4 batman movies: Batman 89', Batman returns, Batman begins and TDK lol.

Joel Schumacher's weren't dark.t:

 

[The Major]

Lets never mention that name again. There are only 4 batman movies: Batman 89', Batman returns, Batman begins and TDK lol.

Good idea!

 

[Fitzwilliam]

Given the reason statements from Nolan's camp about the future of this franchise, as brilliant as the last 2 films have been, the range of this series is very restricted. Tim Burton at least showed how realistic the Penguin can be and showed us a world of fantasy that seemed believable in the real world, whereas Nolan's world of Batman is limited to just taking the safe route of Batman, the detective and the psychos of Gotham, which is brilliant in it's own right because I don't think any other writer/director would've taken it that route. I love the intellectual take on the mythology of Batman, but he is limiting the range of where these characters go.

Did you mean recent? If English isn't your first language that's totally cool, in fact, your English is excellent in that case.

But if it's your first language, dyslexia doesn't even count as an excuse for spelling that bad.

 

[chaseter]

What I've realized about Chris Nolan's Batman (TDK)is that it is possibly one of the greatest film of all time and definitely the greatest comic book movie of all time. IMO.

But he wants it changed so Nolan should listen to him

 

[Fitzwilliam]

But he wants it changed so Nolan should listen to him

No. HE want's it changed. It's his opinion. It's a speculative forum for possible sequels... What the hell do you expect people to talk about?

No one is saying "Nolan better listen". Self hating fanboy is all you are.

 

[Julio Alejandro]

Yeah. I would actually hope Chris Nolan doesn't pay attention to us.

 

[chaseter]

Yeah. I would actually hope Chris Nolan doesn't pay attention to us.

Shh...that is self hating fanboy talk this is. I said it was fun to speculate but to demand stuff is beyond comprehension to me when Nolan has giving us two great films.

 

[Infinity9999x]

I actually think that there are very few villains that Nolan couldn't do in his Batman movies.

Man Bat is really the only major one I can't see him introducing, but all the others I think could work fine.

Mad-Hatter wouldn't be hard at all to introduce. For Clayface you could go with the original Clayface who wasn't super powered (until later) or combine the Preston Payne clayface and Basil Karlo, and have him be a man who suffers from a horrible skin rotting disease which also alters his mind, causing him to become a murderer who calls himself Clayface.

Every other villain I think could be done fairly easily, but I don't want to type a book explaining how I think all of them could be introduced in a realistic way.

 

[-Arya-]

INIT- In Nolan I trust. I believe he can pull off the majority of the villians and make an excellent story out of it. After all, Nolan is a director who is very story driven in his work.

Id personally like to see what he can do with Catwoman, Mr. Freeze and The Riddler. I would also love to see his interpretation of Phantasm. I know its not a major villian but I would love to see it. t:

 

[Abadleon]

How did Burton make a believable world Giant penguins with rockets A woman brought back to life by cats and she now has 9 lives

I don't think that Catwoman was resurrected by cats on B.Returns, she just survived. The cats around her were just something symbolic. The same about the nine lives, it was something symbolic, she just resisted the shots, it was not something magical.

And I don't remember the penguins with rockets being giant. Some were obviously fake, but I don't remember that were giants.

 

[Julio Alejandro]

Yeah. Emperor penguins are known to be that tall.

 

[DavidTyler]

I'd like to see the Penguin introduced the way he's being used in the comics now... as a kind of mob boss who fronts a high toned club for 'bad boys' called the Ice Berg Lounge.

Killer Croc wasn't always a lizard. Originally he was a wrestler with a freakish skin condition that made him look scaley. He had his teeth ground to points. This character would definitely work in a Nolan film .. just not as a main villain.

The Ventriloquist - now this is an interesting character. Not only could it be done realistically - it already has. See the movie 'Magic' starring Anthony Hopkins. He might even work as a major villain. All it needs are the right subplots and a good script.

Man Bat - now, as fantastic as this character seems, I think Nolan could pull it off. Let's keep in mind that Nolan's Batworld is not realistism but Hyper-realism. That means the characters act like real people, the landscape is presented realistically, and the motivations are realistic ... BUT... there have been fantastic things in both films... the first being the plot involving the microwave device and the hallucingen. We all know that wasn't realistic but we bought it because of the way it was presented.

But, over-riding it all is that we have a guy in an armoured Bat-suit.

So, could Man-Bat be done in Nolan's world? I say yes. Of course, Nolan would have to make some changes to the character just as he did The Joker. Maybe there would be no flight ability. I don't know. But I have every confidence that Nolan could take most of Batman's rogues gallery and make them work in his world.

 

[TimidationGame]

I'd like to see the Penguin introduced the way he's being used in the comics now... as a kind of mob boss who fronts a high toned club for 'bad boys' called the Ice Berg Lounge.

Killer Croc wasn't always a lizard. Originally he was a wrestler with a freakish skin condition that made him look scaley. He had his teeth ground to points. This character would definitely work in a Nolan film .. just not as a main villain.

The Ventriloquist - now this is an interesting character. Not only could it be done realistically - it already has. See the movie 'Magic' starring Anthony Hopkins. He might even work as a major villain. All it needs are the right subplots and a good script.

Man Bat - now, as fantastic as this character seems, I think Nolan could pull it off. Let's keep in mind that Nolan's Batworld is not realistism but Hyper-realism. That means the characters act like real people, the landscape is presented realistically, and the motivations are realistic ... BUT... there have been fantastic things in both films... the first being the plot involving the microwave device and the hallucingen. We all know that wasn't realistic but we bought it because of the way it was presented.

But, over-riding it all is that we have a guy in an armoured Bat-suit.

So, could Man-Bat be done in Nolan's world? I say yes. Of course, Nolan would have to make some changes to the character just as he did The Joker. Maybe there would be no flight ability. I don't know. But I have every confidence that Nolan could take most of Batman's rogues gallery and make them work in his world.

I agree that they could use any character they want, but some would take a lot of CGI possibly. I'm not sure Nolan was really going for that. If they start getting overly fantastical, the audience MAY not fully buy into the change...won't know that until it's tried. I think they should stay the current course and use another trilogy and director to get in to the fantastical CGI world, but that is my opinion.

 

[scifiwolf]

Did you mean recent? If English isn't your first language that's totally cool, in fact, your English is excellent in that case.

But if it's your first language, dyslexia doesn't even count as an excuse for spelling that bad.

Nor does it count for using adjectives as substitutes for adverbs.

 

[TimidationGame]

Nor does it count for using adjectives as substitutes for adverbs.

I seem to have lost most of what I leaned in advanced English comp...I'm very glad we don't get graded in here...I would have flunked out long ago.