The Dark Knight What should happen to the Rachael character?

[COMPO]

Horrible idea to let Rachel and Brcue develop there relationship?? What a waste of screentime for such an insignificant character. Rachel should die...or leave Gotham.

I said no *****ing.

 

[Ronny Shade]

As Javier Grillo-Marxuach once told me, you kill off a character when that character is finished. When they don't really have any further to develop or when they are finished being a foil for a more important character, they're basically a waste of space, so that's when you kill them or otherwise write them out. If Chris and Jon can find a way to make Rachel relevant, they should keep her around in BB2, if not, they should kill her or write her out.

It's really that simple.

 

[Kritish]

She should marry a crazy scientologist who believes in reincarnation who convinces her that they have been together in many past lives where they have been poor, where they have fought in wars, where they have been muscians, scientists, and that Brooke Shields was once the lover of Sigmund Freud in a past life, therefore that's why she defends psychiatry even though Freud was the father of psychoanalysis and not psychiatry.

True story.

I think I'm gonna like you.

 

[Lightning54SC]

i think they shoudl do the killing joke story but instead of Barb Gorden let it be rachel... also a twist she dies

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

That'd be a total bummer. Such a predictable/not original act. The villain kills the love interest in order to create conflict with the hero.... repeating the same story we have seen so many times already. I hope Jonathan and Chris decide to go with a more creative route.

I say don't kill Rachel. Let her romance with Bruce grows... let's have a continuity. Why not a real heroine and a real romance? That would make this sequel a lot different from the other batman movies.

The reason that I don't want Rachel in the next movie is simple I didn't like the actress that protrayed the character. If they recast I won't have any problems with the character staying on board...and incase any of you think I'm just picking on Holmes, I loved Hellboy even more than Batman Begins and in the movie, I hated Selma Blair even more than Holmes.

 

[Kritish]

Katie should give the Joker herpes.

 

[Ronny Shade]

thats the only way to stop him

 

[Ben Urich]

I'd like to see her live to see the end of the second film, but I hope she isn't constantly the damsel that Batman has to end up saving. That'd get kinda old.

 

[hotrain33]

From what I have heard before that Holmes doesn't want to be in the next film. So maybe if that does happen that would make Nolan's job easier. Just mention that she received a promotion elsewhere in a different town. Bring in someone else who is more comic book related like talia.

 

[Cats]

Yeah, you have to make shure you brainwash your daughter correctly into Scientology.

Let's see... brainwashing, maniacal laughter, couch jumping, fooling a young naive girl into being his love slave.... hmmm, is it just me or does Tom Cruise sound like a real life 'Joker'?

 

[Dark Knight]

As Javier Grillo-Marxuach once told me, you kill off a character when that character is finished. When they don't really have any further to develop or when they are finished being a foil for a more important character, they're basically a waste of space, so that's when you kill them or otherwise write them out. If Chris and Jon can find a way to make Rachel relevant, they should keep her around in BB2, if not, they should kill her or write her out.

It's really that simple.

it is that simple.....and when one thinks it over....(which isn't a very long contemplation) then her character would be waste of space and screentime for more characters to develop or introduce within the narrative. I would rather see more screentime for Batman Joker, Dent, Talia, Cobblepot, Gordon....than waste space on Katie Holmes' Rachel Dawes?? It's not even close...

 

[Dark Knight]

i think they shoudl do the killing joke story but instead of Barb Gorden let it be rachel... also a twist she dies

exactly...i agree....it's that simple. Then more for Bruce/Batman to deal with and overcome.....which equals great drama.

 

[Dark Knight]

. Bring in someone else who is more comic book related like talia.

I agree...

 

[Spideywithsai]

make her a new supervillain that tries to convert gotham to scientology, i can see the reviews now!!

 

[Two-Face]

make her a new supervillain that tries to convert gotham to scientology, i can see the reviews now!!

Go back to Spidey forum....

 

[The Batman]

I find it very pathetic that people want to kill her off just so batman can be pissed at joker.

The fact that joker is running around killing the very people bruce is trying to protect should be reason enough for bats to be pissed at joker

 

[Batman]

Yeah, but that doesn't nessacarily distance the Joker from someone like Jonathan Crane or Ra's Al Ghul. Hell, it'd make him look like an amatuer, considering Ra's plan had the means to turn hundreds of people into fear toxin pumped lunatics bent on destroying eachother out of fear.

The Joker is, even though Batman himself doesn't admit it, his worst enemy. How has he become that? Look at all he's done to Batman on a personal level. The Death Of Jason Todd. Crippling Barbara Gordon. Shooting Dick Grayson. Killing Sarah Essen, His best friend's wife, in cold blood.

Even though I agree with you about it not being the reason Batman goes after The Joker at all, I think what they want is a way to distance The Joker, dramatically, from other villians, because he's widely known for being Batman's worst. If he just killed people... He'd just be another psychopath in Gotham City, which they had in the Scarecrow character in Batman Begins.

That said, I don't want it to even happen until Batman 3, if the character even comes back for 2.

 

[The Batman]

But Joker was considered Batman's worst looong before joker ever killed bruce's allies.

 

[metr0man]

i like the idea of The Joker killing her. It would jolt the audience hard and give it that "nobody is safe" feeling, because Katie Holmes is a Hollywood name. Do it mid-film or even fairly early. Plus its very faithful to the Joker who seems to love shooting and killing women (like, for instance, all of the women Gordon loves, wives and daughter, lol)

 

[DeGenerate10]

Have the Joker kill her in front of Batman so we can hear Batman yell RACHEAL! again

 

[chosen1]

How about good bye rachel have her gone completely.

Katie holmes should'nt have been in the movie at all