Homecoming What should they do with the Spidey franchise? - Part 2

I'm annoyed, someone as good as Garfield (and Webb, so many expectations when he was announced), with so much enthusiasm for Spider-Man, the look, and the acting range (maybe he was a bit mopey as Peter, but films like Never Let Me Go and The Social Network prove he's good) was involved in these movies, and now he's getting blamed for a lot of the negative feedback... I kinda wish they keep him, it would be easier for the GA and if they just start a new franchise after a few years: start after Gwen's death, introduce MJ... allow people to forget about the ASM franchise.

Well, it sounds like Marvel wants to make Peter a teen again and Garfield, now over 30, is probably getting a bit too old for the role. Besides, as much as I love Garfield, it's better to start fresh with a clean slate. No need to carry any baggage from the ASM series to a new one.
 
Well, it sounds like Marvel wants to make Peter a teen again and Garfield, now over 30, is probably getting a bit too old for the role. Besides, as much as I love Garfield, it's better to start fresh with a clean slate. No need to carry any baggage from the ASM series to a new one.

I guess it's for the best, and trusting Marvel's casting here I can know that it's not going to be someone like Ansel Engort (the guy from Fault in Our Stars) or anyone who's seen as a YA icon.
 
INB4 Sony sells/makes deal to/with Marvel... Circular back-spider.
 
So glad Garfield is gone. I never liked his *****ey, emo Peter. Made me want to repeatedly hit him in the face with a bat. Pretty soon the House of Mouse will have their golden boy home and everything will be as it should.
 
I dunno what Webb was thinking with that. Is that what his interpretation of a geek is in the 21st century?
 
Andrew Garfield was ideal :oldrazz: I meant, favoured choice.

I haven't seen him act in anything apart from the Internship but Dylan O'Brien?
He looks the part, wasn't impressed from what I saw in Maze Runner... Kinda meh acting if you ask me. Not terrible, but nothing memorable.
 
Well, it sounds like Marvel wants to make Peter a teen again and Garfield, now over 30, is probably getting a bit too old for the role. Besides, as much as I love Garfield, it's better to start fresh with a clean slate. No need to carry any baggage from the ASM series to a new one.

Agreed. Spider-man works best in high school, maybe early college.
Garfield, great as he is, is both too old and associated with a lackluster franchise. None of that is his fault, and it isn't ideal obviously, but that's just how it is.
 
Agreed. Spider-man works best in high school, maybe early college.
Garfield, great as he is, is both too old and associated with a lackluster franchise. None of that is his fault, and it isn't ideal obviously, but that's just how it is.

I wouldn't say that, he doesn't work that well as a 40 year old, but a mid 20s peter is a good iteration IMO
 
I like Robinov's director ideas, but I'm not so hot on the rest. I don't like Kraven, I think there are more exciting villains out there. And one of the interesting aspects of the TASM series was the focus on the teenage years. The comics have retracted from aging Peter several times - Ultimizing him and undoing his marriage come to mind - and that's for a reason: it's just more interesting, more relatable. There are plenty of adult heroes out there, so a teenager (or at least college-aged) Spidey stood out. And I think it should stay that way. He's always been a mess in his personal life, and a mess of a kid is more endearing than a mess of an adult.

But ok. Let's see where this goes.
 
If Garfield is truly out of the picture then that's pretty sad. I really don't feel as though he should have to deal with the backlash for Sony's handling of TASM series. He was easily one of the strongest parts of it. Especially with TASM2's lacklustre reception people still praised him and Emma Stone for their efforts.
 
I think Garfield and Stone's chemistry was one of TASM's bright spots.
 
GAWD, I hope they don't cast a "pretty boy" as the next Peter Parker.
 
I hope they skip the Gwen chapter this time, just go with MJ from the start. We don't need to see Gwen get killed again so soon.
 
I dunno what Webb was thinking with that. Is that what his interpretation of a geek is in the 21st century?


I don't know what Webb wanted , but I think Sony wanted him to be a CW outsider type who was also a skater boy, good looking, nerdy,and off beat . In other words,as with the ASM series, they wanted to have their cake and eat it too.
 
If YOU were Sony, what do you think has the best chance to revive the franchise, financially at least?

I think I'd risk it with Sinister Six, including Spidey and soft-rebooting with another actor (no TASM continuity). Not much personal Parker stuff, because there probably wouldn't be much time. Just focus on Spidey, the six villains and whatever threat they have to team-up against. And just power through all the criticism about having yet again too many villains, hoping that the script manages to balance everyone out.

Now, what I'd LIKE to see, profits be damned: Sinister Six, a villain-exclusive film. Make your best to shut up the "It's a bad idea, wah" people. Something that leaves you eager to see more of each of those villains by the end. Then TASM3 (different creatives) pitting Garfield against all of those. And the cherry on top of the unrealistic cake: make it a two-parter. Spider-Man: The Sinister Six Part 1 and 2, filmed back to back and released one year apart. This mega-saga, huge scope. Agh, I'd love that.
 
The biggest issue Sony has going against it is time. They have to have a Spider-Man film in development otherwise they'll lose the rights. When you have a deadline you don't always make the best decisions, sometimes you just throw something together and hope it sticks. If they didn't have to contend with that time limit then they might be able to slow down a bit more and think clearer.
 
If YOU were Sony, what do you think has the best chance to revive the franchise, financially at least?

I think I'd risk it with Sinister Six, including Spidey and soft-rebooting with another actor (no TASM continuity). Not much personal Parker stuff, because there probably wouldn't be much time. Just focus on Spidey, the six villains and whatever threat they have to team-up against. And just power through all the criticism about having yet again too many villains, hoping that the script manages to balance everyone out.

Now, what I'd LIKE to see, profits be damned: Sinister Six, a villain-exclusive film. Make your best to shut up the "It's a bad idea, wah" people. Something that leaves you eager to see more of each of those villains by the end. Then TASM3 (different creatives) pitting Garfield against all of those. And the cherry on top of the unrealistic cake: make it a two-parter. Spider-Man: The Sinister Six Part 1 and 2, filmed back to back and released one year apart. This mega-saga, huge scope. Agh, I'd love that.


Garfield is out so the one thing that was almost universally praised by the general audience and critics alike is no longer involved.
 
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