BvS What Stylized Colour Scheme do you Want/Expect for Gotham City?

[KRYPTON INC.]

Real talk Kane... I hope your fears and skepticism are unfounded and you can actually sit back and enjoy the film and it pleases you or at least entertains you.

 

[Kane52630]

I just don't see how different it is from anyone else on here with their insane high expectations. I'm just telling it like it is.

 

[Guts]

Kane... They can't all have the incredible production design of B&R, what with the neon and the obviously plastic ice covering the city.

But there's a neon Ace Chemicals sign and the Joker has neon lights on the underside of is car.

Now all we need is some ice.

 

[KillerWolf]

It may sound boring but I prefer the real world look a lot more than the overdone color correction that Fong brings to the table. I like my movies to look like what outside my window looks like, especially for the DCEU where they keep saying that they want these movies to feel like they're in our world. If it doesn't look like our world it makes it harder for me to buy into.

Well, the way I see it, I can always look out of the window to see the real world, but I only get to see Larry Fong's aesthetic in Larry Fong's films.

Seriously though, I perfectly understand those who'd prefer less color corrected look, sometimes I do wish it as well, at least for certain parts, but I do like how they sometimes take me completely out of this world and immerse me in the world Snyder and Fong created, like "Watchmen" did. I usually dislike the heavily "filtered" look of modern films, but there is something specific in Fong's style that is to my liking.

 

[matt47]

Well, the way I see it, I can always look out of the window to see the real world, but I only get to see Larry Fong's aesthetic in Larry Fong's films.

Seriously though, I perfectly understand those who'd prefer less color corrected look, sometimes I do wish it as well, at least for certain parts, but I do like how they sometimes take me completely out of this world and immerse me in the world Snyder and Fong created, like "Watchmen" did. I usually dislike the heavily "filtered" look of modern films, but there is something specific in Fong's style that is to my liking.

For Watchmen it worked. BUt for this universe they're creating it doesn't, for me.

 

[KillerWolf]

For Watchmen it worked. BUt for this universe they're creating it doesn't, for me.

It doesn't work as well for some films, true. I think it would for Batman (which is why I don't mind it that much in BvS), I'm not sure how well will it work for Justice League though.

 

[John-An]

It may sound boring but I prefer the real world look a lot more than the overdone color correction that Fong brings to the table. I like my movies to look like what outside my window looks like, especially for the DCEU where they keep saying that they want these movies to feel like they're in our world. If it doesn't look like our world it makes it harder for me to buy into.

Well that depends on tastes. Me for example I prefer to be feeling that I'm seeing a movie and not a commercial ad.

 

[matt47]

It doesn't work as well for some films, true. I think it would for Batman (which is why I don't mind it that much in BvS), I'm not sure how well will it work for Justice League though.

I just hate when Fong's style makes things look like they're a special effect when in fact they are actually real.

 

[Sawyer]

I just don't see how different it is from anyone else on here with their insane high expectations. I'm just telling it like it is.

Ahh yes. The reality TV villain motto.

 

[KillerWolf]

I just hate when Fong's style makes things look like they're a special effect when in fact they are actually real.

Yeah, that does annoy me a bit as well. I remember Snyder saying about the Wayne Manor something like "we built an actual thing, but everyone is going to assume it's a CGI". Well, maybe you should take an effort to not make it look like a CGI.

But I think the problem is that they often film in front of the green screen and use a lot of CGI and then they have to adjust real structures and objects with the CGI ones to look like they're one. I noticed things that are not CGI looking like they are computer generated in CGI heavy films quite often. Most recent example would be "The Jungle Book". Goddamn Mowgli looked like he is computer generated in some scenes of that trailer, while in reality he's played by the real kid. But everything around him is CGI, so I guess that's where the problem lies.

 

[jokesonm3]

As long as this film has a Watchmen style cinematography then i'm fine with it.

Here's hoping that the new trailer doesn't show old footage from the comic con trailer but the final quality shots instead.

 

[John-An]

Watchmen really was a masterpiece of VFX. I really don't understand why it didn't got an Oscar nom.

And no, jokesonm3, I think until the movie you will see the final shot, even with a small difference in lightning, color or whatever other detail. It's just the way it works on movies eventhought most people don't really see the difference until they compare both shots.

 

[jokesonm3]

Watchmen really was a masterpiece of VFX. I really don't understand why it didn't got an Oscar nom.

It was on the pre-nominations for the Best Visuals Oscar until it didn't make the final round.

And no, jokesonm3, I think until the movie you will see the final shot of the movie, even with a small difference in lightning, color or whatever small detail. It's just the way it works on movies.

I'm cool with that, but it would been great seeing the latest updated VFX on the final trailer kind of like how the Turkish Airlines trailer a few weeks back had an updated VFX look for the Comic Con trailer.

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[John-An]

It was on the pre-nominations for the Best Visuals Oscar until it didn't make the final round.

Yeah, but what matters it's the nomination, and of course the one that deserved it.

I'm cool with that, but it would been great seeing the latest updated VFX on the final trailer kind of like how the Turkish Airlines trailer a few weeks back had an updated VFX look for the Comic Con trailer.

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Which shot do you mean?

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I just don't see how different it is from anyone else on here with their insane high expectations. I'm just telling it like it is.

I wasn't trying to convince you of anything. I was being sincere there kemosabe. A fan as big as you are of Batman, I hope you can find enjoyment in this movie. I love Bats too, though he's like always gonna be a close second to Supes, but I know as someone that looked forward to enjoying LOIS AND CLARK, SUPERMAN: TAS, SMALLVILLE and SUPERMAN RETURNS that it's really disappointing when you don't like the product that is put out.

 

[jokesonm3]

Which shot do you mean?

Like the Doomsday fight for example i kinda agree with Matt47 when he said that the fire in the background did look kind of weird cgi in the latest trailer, but honestly it's a minor nitpick for me at best.

 

[John-An]

Yeah, as I've told you, you won't see the final shot until the movie comes out, no matter if it's a minor change, it will be present.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

It doesn't work as well for some films, true. I think it would for Batman (which is why I don't mind it that much in BvS), I'm not sure how well will it work for Justice League though.

I was worried about Fong reteaming with Snyder too since, I really didn't want a film that looked like Watchmen or 300, and... I don't think we are getting that in the least. Shots like Bruce in the car or on foot during the Zod attack or Bruce walking the dilapidated manor grounds, Supes and Ma on the farm ect. look less like his previous work with Snyder. Some of that is coming through in other shots, true, can't deny that (Day of Dead, Russian Rocket) but it's far less I guess I would say, ethereal than in Watchmen/300/Sucker Punch.

 

[jokesonm3]

Yeah, as I've told you, you won't see the final shot until the movie comes out, no matter if it's a minor change, it will be present.

Yeah hoping that's the case.

 

[KillerWolf]

I was worried about Fong reteaming with Snyder too since, I really didn't want a film that looked like Watchmen or 300, and... I don't think we are getting that in the least. Shots like Bruce in the car or on foot during the Zod attack or Bruce walking the dilapidated manor grounds, Supes and Ma on the farm ect. look less like his previous work with Snyder. Some of that is coming through in other shots, true, can't deny that (Day of Dead, Russian Rocket) but it's far less I guess I would say, ethereal than in Watchmen/300/Sucker Punch.

Oh, definitely. I pretty much see it as a mix of MOS aesthetic with a touch of Fong's usual cinematography. "Ethereal" seems like a good word for that style, by the way. And, again, I do like it in certain doses. "Sucker Punch" was a bit too much for me, for example.

Also, I think this kinda goes in line with what I said earlier about the CGI and non-CGI things sometimes looking like they are computer generated. All those scenes you mentioned have zilch of CGI in them, while in those that do have partial CGI, Fongness hehe usually does come through more strongly.

 

[John-An]

Don't mess with muh Fong, Wolfie

 

[Brother Jack]

For Watchmen it worked. BUt for this universe they're creating it doesn't, for me.

I don't think it worked for Watchmen. It betrayed the ordinary kind of tone the comic had. The characters weren't supposed to be portrayed as cool superheroes. They were mostly regular people in an off-kilter world that was nonetheless meant to reflect our world in the 80's. It arguably works better for this because the story is dealing with exaggerated, god-like figures. But the tone established in Man of Steel was trying to be more down to earth and bucolic so there's this visual dissonance.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I don't think it worked for Watchmen. It betrayed the ordinary kind of tone the comic had. The characters weren't supposed to be portrayed as cool superheroes. They were mostly regular people in an off-kilter world that was nonetheless meant to reflect our world in the 80's. It arguably works better for this because the story is dealing with exaggerated, god-like figures. But the tone established in Man of Steel was trying to be more down to earth and bucolic so there's this visual dissonance.

The ordinary tone of a story where a comic book styled genius that can catch bullets with his bare hands genetically engineers a psychic octopus and a guy in an owl costume and another in fetish gear are shown handling an entire rioting crowd?

 

[matt47]

That's the thing, the movie Watchmen didn't feel like a real world movie, nothing in it felt real to me. As in, IF this crazy **** happened in our world, this isn't how it would go. But it's how it went in that universe.

 

[Brother Jack]

The ordinary tone of a story where a comic book styled genius that can catch bullets with his bare hands genetically engineers a psychic octopus and a guy in an owl costume and another in fetish gear are shown handling an entire rioting crowd?

Yes. It was intentionally absurd in the heightened alternate history of the setting. Many of the heroes (if you can call them that) come off as ridiculous. Everything just looks overstylized and cool in the movie.