The Amazing Spider-Man What villain or villains would you like to see them kick start the reboot with?

What villain would you like to see in the reboot?

  • The Green Goblin

  • Doctor Octopus

  • An unused villain like Kraven, Lizard, Electro...or someone else

  • The Green Goblin

  • Doctor Octopus

  • An unused villain like Kraven, Lizard, Electro...or someone else


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For some reason, I'm inclined to say Scorpion.
 
I have an idea for a movie using The Lizard, and one for Mysterio, but both require Peter to already be Spider-Man.

Lizard idea:
Peter’s Aunt May falls ill, and is rushed to the hospital. She needs a blood transfusion; Peter is the only match close enough. He is worried about his spider-powered blood affecting her. But the transfusion is successful. Aunt May seems healthy again. Also we meet Dr. Curt Connors; he is an expert in genetics. He is experimenting with Lizard DNA in mammals, hoping to re-grow limbs. As the story goes along, we already know Peter is Spider-Man, things seem normal. But then suddenly take a turn for the worse. Aunt May falls ill again, this time much worse and the doctors say it’s something in her blood. It is explained in a way that is understood to be because of Peter’s Spider-blood. At the same time Dr. Curt Connors has used the Lizard DNA research on himself. When Peter goes looking for him he finds out Connors has become the Lizard. He must save Connors sot that Connors can save his Aunt. The story ultimately moves into an underground facility which the Lizard has taken over. Peter fights the Lizard and is ultimately successful in turning him back to human, thanks to help from Curt (who hasn’t lost his whole mind yet), notes from Curt, and Curt’s wife. Maybe the building is starting to fall apart, but they don’t really realize it yet. Connors and Spider-Man work in the facility, converted perhaps into Connors lab while he was becoming the Lizard, to make a cure for Aunt May. Finally they are finished, but the building isn’t holding anymore. Spider-Man rushes them out, but is caught under the heavy falling parts of the building and machinery. The cure for Aunt May lies just out of reach, and Connors and his wife and rushing to get to the surfice. Peter must summon every ounce of strength, even though he is in bad shape from the fight with the Lizard, to lift the machinery and get the formula to Aunt May. He gets to the formula just in time but the building collapses and water rushes in. Peter eventually makes it to the hospital and gets the formula to Aunt May’s doctors.


Using the ideas from the Master Planner storyline and the Lizard storyline as one.




Mysterio I posted before, lost to this idea but here is some of it:
My ideas for a Mysterio movie, and how it fits in to the overall Spider-Man stories:
In a movie you need the story, villain, obstacles, and such, to evolve the star.
How would this Mysterio movie do that?
It would help Spider-Man redeem himself after Spider-Man 3.

(I mention is more later in this post, but Mysterio's plan is to frame Spider-Man for robbery, then using illusions make Spider-Man think he is going crazy, then posing as a psychiatrist give several interviews in the Daily bugle about how Spider-Man is mentally unstable and could crack at any minute and use the black costume problems and the robberies as an example.)

Mysterio has been watching and waiting, knowing he can't defeat Spider-Man one on one (Mysterio's own words from the comic). He waits for the right moment to strike, when Spider-Man is most vulnerable, after the Black Costume mess.
A time when he is drained physically and emotionally.

So the movie becomes Peter Parker not only getting the public to trust him again, as well as Mary Jane, but himself too.
So in the end Spider-Man saves the city, his loved ones, his reputation, and proves himself to the public and himself, showing he is back to the heroic Spider-Man we all know and love from the previous movies.

In the comics Quintin Beck creates his Mysterio costume, and weapons, based on Spider-Man's costume.
mysteryo.jpg

So, in the movie it can be the same, and help explain his wacky costume.
Also, since he is sort of posing as a hero, he might want it to look the most outragious in order to catch the publics attention.
It can look like this:
Spider-Man2_postermysteriotest3.jpg

Just make the gray webbing black and not webbing, but straight.

Spider-Man 4
villain: Mysterio

Spider-Man is seen robbing museums and banks all over New York. The Daily Bugle reports about it, along with other papers. Its not just rumors anymore. At the same time a Psychiatrist comes to the Daily Bugle with information, in his professional opinion Spider-Man is suffering from severe mental illness and could crack at any time and judging by the robberies it may have started already.
Peter reads about it, and hears about it at the paper, the doctor's report gets Peter worried that maybe his spider-powers are starting to effect his brain, could he be blacking out and robbing banks?
Even though Mary Jane, who Peter is now living with, tries to comfort him Peter is still worried.
Suddenly a new hero shows up in New York and goes straight to the Daily Bugle, as well as other papers. His name is Mysterio and he is here to save New York from Spider-Man.
During is swinging around the city to clear his head Peter starts seeing things. Old enemies like Doc Ock, Green Goblin, Sandman, and Venom, come out of no where and attack. Spider-Man fights back but suddenly nothing is there. Could the doctor actually be right?
While Peter tries to come to grips with his problem, even meeting with the Doctor, Mary Jane is unsure of this psychiatrist and decides to investigate.
Spider-Man also has several run ins with Mysterio, he seems stronger, faster, and has mystical powers.
Perhaps Mary Jane meets this doctor and finds out he is connected to Mysterio. Only she gets kidnapped or is running from the psychiatrist because he actually is Mysterio.
Spider-Man also finds out that Mysterio was behind the robberies, pretending to be Spider-Man, and he actually is the psychiatrist, and behind all the illusions that made Spider-Man think he was loosing his mind.
In the end Peter/Spider-Man wins because, while Mysterio may be stronger, faster, and more powerful, its all manufactured, whereas Peter's powers are all natural. Maybe Mysterio even dies at the end, but we also see that his death was another illusion.

Sometime during the film Aunt May also finds out that Peter is Spider-Man, and during the coarse of the movie we see her reaction.
First shock, sadness, anger, all sorts of emotions, eventually acceptance (we see her write letters to papers like the Bugle, dropping her subscription because of all the bad mouthing they do about Spider-man, while she writes a letter of praise about another paper's , Front Line's, praising Spider-Man.) We also see her do subtle things to help Peter with his alter ego without Peter knowing.
Will she tell Peter she knows? Maybe she is having trouble figuring out what to do.
This would give Aunt May something to do in the films, just like giving Mary Jane more to do than just be the love interest and damsel in distress.

Mysterio should come off as a super genius and planner.
Thanks, I just used two of the original Mysterio storylines.
One where he tries to frame Spider-Man for robbery and set himself up as New York's Hero, and another where he tries to convince Spider-Man that he is going crazy.
For Aunt May I used the storyline where she found out about Peter being Spider-Man. I loved how she reacted.
It was so short because they were just ideas, I wasn't trying to write a whole movie outline.

The whole Spider-Man going crazy idea could even tie into his past with the black suit, people are willing to believe because of his behavior with the alien costume. Plus Peter thinks his mental state could be unraveling because of the effects of the costume, perhaps. Mary Jane, however should never really doubt him.
the Psychiatrist, Mysterio in disguise, could have a few sessions with Spider-Man in which he tries to make Spider-Man think he is going crazy.

The scenes with the past villains, Green Goblin, Doc Ock, Sandman, Green Goblin II, Venom, could all be done quickly and cheaply, since they are illusions that only last for a few minutes each.

If they use Mysterio these are just some ideas on how to make him a serious threat to Spider-Man.

Something else they could add in that was done in the old comics all the time,
Jameson backs Mysterio, and the Psychiatrist, so much that when it is revealed by Peter's photos that Mysterio was framing Spider-Man the whole time and is in fact the real bad guy,
Jameson, choking on his own rage, must run a retraction.
He usually says something like "run it on the bottom of page 12."

K. So plot synopsis:
Mysterio (AKA the psychiatrist) comes to town to frame Spider-Man, make him and everyone else think he has lots his mind and is dangerous, and make Mysterio look like a hero.
Aunt May finds out about Peter's secret, Jameson backs Mysterio, Mary Jane tries to help Peter by doing some detective work.

Thanks so much, again just applying stuff from the comics. And trying to give the actors more to do in the movie than just be the Aunt who is sad about Uncle Ben or the girlfriend/wife who becomes the damsel in distress. I think Both Actors would enjoy having more to do, plus Tobey would get to try something different, make himself think he is having a break down.
Another fun plus would be having one of the costumed spidey villains showing up at the Daily bugle, like they used to all the time.
In the old comics Kraven, Mysterio, Vulture, would show up in the building. Kraven and Mysterio just walked in like normal.
Wouldn't that be cool?
Mysterio walks in, saying he is giving the Bugle an exclusive. He will defeat Spider-Man and save New York. Jameson posts a giant front page story about Mysterio praising him up and down, calling him the hero the city needs and such. Then when he is shown to be the bad guy Jameson is forced to retract his statements.
Oh! They should also show Jameson writing an editorial about why Spider-Man is a menace.

In a movie you need the story, villain, obstacles, and such, to evolve the star.
How would this Mysterio movie do that?
It would help Spider-Man redeem himself after Spider-Man 2.

Mysterio has been watching and waiting, knowing he can't defeat Spider-Man one on one (Mysterio's own words from the comic). He waits for the right moment to strike, when Spider-Man is most vulnerable, after the Black Costume mess.
A time when he is drained physically and emotionally.

So the movie becomes Peter Parker not only getting the public to trust him again, as well as Mary Jane, but himself too.
So in the end Spider-Man saves the city, his loved ones, his reputation, and proves himself to the public and himself, showing he is back to the heroic Spider-Man we all know and love from the previous movies.


Of coarse, with the reboot there wouldn't be a black costume or Venom, and no real need to redeem himself, but still Mysterio would be cool and fun.
 
I think if more villains are to be introduced, i think they should start off with a bang with Lizard..setting the tone that it is possible to turn into a giant man eating lizard.

Does that make sense? Like, i just couldn't picture someone turning into a giant lizard in the Raimi versions even with Sandman and Venom happening, i just couldn't picture that existing in that world.
 
So basically, what everyone wants is Spectacular Spider-Man split up into a movie trilogy. It could work, but I don't need it.
 
start the new series with a new, unused villain

someone like Mysterio, Lizard, Vulture, etc

it would be cool to have Lizard and Kraven :word:

as others have said, introduce Eddie Brock and Norman Osborn but not have them be villains yet
 
make Rhino bring down half the city! :applaud
 
My treatment is this.

The Amazing Spiderman

Peter Parker/Gwen Stacy/ MJ are in a love triangle. They are played by real life 18 yr olds. So its not 20 somethings palying teens. I would have GS and MJ as strong romantic rivals. So PP could actually end up with GS.

No Harry yet.

The villains are Rhino and Electro.

Electro and Rhino are enforcers for the Kingpin. Where as Rhino is a vicious killer. Electro is the softer of the two he has no powers at the mement. Electro wants out/wants help to get his twin brother out of jail. The Kingpin tells him to steal a key component to help stabalize his super enforcer machine, that gives his enforcers superpower.

The Kingpin knows that Captain Stacy is on his trail and sets up Electro for the fall. Spiderman interviens and Electro's twin brother is killed in the process.

Rhino escapes. Spiderman is blamed again for public destruction. Electro breaks into the Kingpins Super powers machine. Something goes haywire and he becomes Electro, he starts going crazy and tries to go after the Kingpin/Rhino and Spiderman.

The Kingpin is in the shadows.

Electro is like a southerner and has a Freddie Kruger like mobility. His powers grow and are unstable. He can throw lighting bolts and drain energy. He can glide threw the air with his lighting surfboard.

Rhino is a more vicious version of the Jugernaught from X-Men 3.

Spidey is Spidey except more gracfull and dynamic. They should use Avatar tech for Spidey fights.

Spidey gets his ass kicked, but he can do more cool stuff with his webs. like parachutes or spider goo. Spidey quips more and is more badass, kind of like Bruce Willis in Die Hard. The actions sceans are vicious and furious.

Spidey wins in the end ,by using his brains and barley escaping death.

The music would be rock and roll. No classical music score.
 
SM2:

-After Tombstone's attempt to distract spidey with supervillains has failed,Tombstone tries a different approach and hires the Chameleon to frame spidey for crimes.The cops will keep spidey busy while Tombstone can still do his organize crime stuff.

-Norman Osborn is furious with Tombstone for hiring the Chameleon,cause Norman thinks that the cops will catch the Chameleon and the Chameleon will turn Tombstone in and Tombstone will turn Norman in for creating supervillains.
So Norman Osborn becomes the Green Goblin to take out all loose ends.

-Green Goblin kills Gwen.

-Chameleon ends up in jail and so does Tombstone cause Chameleon rats him out.

-Otto Octavius wakes up in the hospital in the end of the movie.
 
Venom and the whole sympiote story done justice is what I want to see. That thin clown played by Topher Grace was definitely not Venom.
 
Electro would be ok. I also wouldn't be seeing someone like Shocker with an appearance, maybe as an early challenge to Spidey like in the movie game.
 
I'd definitely want to have someone unused and also some small time villains that are hired by someone bigger. Bring on Shocker! :awesome:
 
Not in the first film, but assuming it starts off with a bang, perhaps somewhere down the line for the 2nd or 3rd Kingpin/Fisk could be implemented? Maybe? Yeah, probably not...
 
I think these are the best options for the first movie:
1) The Vulture (his technology would later be used for Goblin's glider)
2) Kingpin/Tombstone + Shocker
3) Chameleon + Shocker
4) Kingpin/Tombstone + Chameleon + Shocker

I think the reboot should either show us the origin again (but in a fresh take that's even more like the comics), or Peter should have just become Spider-Man, showing some of the origin as close flashbacks. In both ways, Peter is new to the whole hero-thing. Thus, I think having Electro as the villain would be a bad idea. He's too powerful and should be used to his full potential, when Spidey has reached more of his potential.

Also, I don't think Mysterio should be in the first one either. He just doesn't fit there, imo. He needs to be used later on in the series too.

For Scorpion to be used, there needs to be more developement to JJJ.

For Lizard, there needs to be alot more developement to Connors before him turning into the monster. He is a villain that we SHOULD sympathise for. Being more developed, that effect will be greater later on.

Also, I think they obviously should build up Norman before using him (preferrably use him in the third imo). Doc Ock is too great of a challenge to be used this early.
 
They can't use Kingpin.. right?
 
Odds are they will follow a combination of Ultimate Spider-Man and the new Spectacular Spider-Man Animated

which puts it at the Enforcers, The Vulture (Associated with Oscorp), or Green Goblin (Tied origin with Spider-Man).

Regardless, Norman Osborn should take the limelight once again
 
As much as I'd LOVE to see the Lizard in this movie, I don't know if Lizzy is the best choice for the first villain to reboot the whole franchise.

Maybe a combo of Chameleon and Vulture, with Chameleon being the minor villan.
 
[A];17936037 said:
make Rhino bring down half the city! :applaud
:up:

I am one of the few people who can see the potential in Rhino. He seems very corny but with a few rewrites to his character he can be a a serious foe and very fun to watch. And also he would be very different from any of spider-man's previous foes.
 
Okay, so this is what I'd like to see done with the villains:

-Green Goblin: Introduce Norman in the first movie an set him up as a villain for SM2 or SM3.

- Doc Ock: I wouldn't put him in the first movie, maybe keep him out of the second as well, but I would like to see him have a cameo before turning into a villain.

-Venom: Introduce Eddie Brock in the first movie and make him Peter his rival. He could turn into Venom later on, but keep it until after SM3.

-Sandman: Just don't make him be uncle Ben's killer, please... I would keep him until after SM3, because we just had him in a movie.

-Electro: I would use him in the first movie. We haven't seen him on the big screen yet and he would just be awesome as hell.

-Tombstone: Make him like his Spectacular Spider-man counterpart. He would be awesome as a mob boss. I would use him in the first movie.

-Shocker: I would like to see him as a side-villain somewhere along the road. Maybe have him work for Tombstone (or Kingpin).

-Rhino: Same as Shocker. But have him rampage through the city.

-The Lizard: Introduce Connors in the first or second movie, but I prefer the first movie, because I want him to have as much screentime before turning into the Lizard as possible. Make Peter work with him in the lab.

-Kraven: He doesn't need a lot of backstory IMO. I would put him in the same movie as The Lizard, because Kraven vs The Lizard vs Spidey would be awesome.

-Vulture: Introduce Toomes somewhere along the road as a rival of Norman and make them argue a couple of times. After Norman turned into the Green Goblin and disappears, Toomes steals/takes back his tech and becomes The Vulture.

-Kingpin: I don't think he'll be in the reboot-franchise, because of the whole Daredevil-thing. But then again, he wouldn't be needed that much if the do Tombstone in the way he's done in SSM.

-Mysterio: I wouldn't use him until the first trilogy is made, since I want him to give Spidey illusions about all the villains he's already faced.

-Chameleon: He could be hired by Tombstone to frame Spidey.

-Carnage: IF he is used, he wouldn't be more than a killing machine. He would work fine with Venom.

-Black Cat: Introduce Felicia somewhere in the movies and make her become Black Cat in the 4th movie.

I know there are villains I haven't mentioned, but these are the ones I think will have the best chances to get into the movies.

This is how I would like to see them happen if they make 6 movies:

SM1:
Peter is in highschool and is in a love triangle with MJ and Gwen. Harry protects Peter from bullies like Flash in school, but after Peter became Spider-man, he didn't need the protection anymore. Harry doesn't like Peter being tough all of a sudden and feels like he isn't important anymore. When MJ, the girl Harry has a crush on, shows interest in Peter, Harry gets in a fight with Peter over her. Peter works at a the lab where Connors works. Eddie Brock is a photographer for The Daily Bugle and gets on Spidey's nerves when he interrupts a fight between Spidey and a villain. Norman, Harry's dad, runs Oscorp and makes a special prison to put the super-villains into.
Villains:
Electro and Tombstone. Tombstone would be the one pulling the strings and Electro would be the fighter. You could put another villains hired by Tombstone in there. Rhino or Chameleon perhaps?

SM2:
Peter is still in highschool. He and Harry become friends again. Peter gets closer to Gwen and by the end of the movie they kiss. Norman is working on some special tech, but Adrian Toomes claims that he is the one who invented it and that Norman Osborn stole it from him. Peter gets a job at the Daily Bugle where he becomes a rival of Eddie Brock.
Villains:
The Lizard and Kraven the Hunter. Connors transforms into the Lizard and goes on a rampage. This caught Kraven's eye and he comes to New York to hunt him. (Epic Lizard vs Kraven vs Spidey battle!)

SM3:
Peter is his senior year and is in a relationship with Gwen Stacy. Flash Thompson, one of the highschool bullies, starts to respect Peter and they are becoming friends. Flash starts dating a new girl: Felicia Hardy. MJ is starting to get closer with Harry, but they aren't dating yet. Peter still works for The Daily Bugle.
Villains:
The Green Goblin. Norman Osborn uses the tech he was working on to transform into the Green Goblin. He finds out that Peter Parker, his son's best friend, is actually Spider-man. Spidey and Green Goblin have an epic fight and during the fight, Gwen is killed. Spider-man defeats Green Goblin and GG/Norman is assumed dead.

SM4:
Peter finally graduated and is now at the Columbia University where he has a class from good old Doctor Connors. Peter doesn't know what to do with his life after Gwen got killed. MJ is paying a lot of attention to him after the drama of Gwen's death and Harry doesn't like this one bit. Felicia Hardy gets a bigger role and pops up here and there. Eddie Brock gets fired at the Daily Bugle.
Villains:
The Vulture, Black Cat and... the symbiote! Adrian Toomes recognised the Green Goblin tech immediately and knew it was the tech stolen from him by Norman Osborn. Toomes steals it back and becomes The Vulture. Meanwhile Peter finds an alien symbiote which bonds with him. The new black suit he gets through it amplifies aggression and this doesn't do any good to Peter's personal/social life. Felicia Hardy becomes Black Cat and likes this new dark side Spider-man is showing. At the end, Peter removes the black suit and fights Vulture in his regular red and blue suit. The symbiote is seen escaping in the after credits scene.

SM5:
Peter is trying to rebuild his life after Gwen's death and the whole symbiote-thing. MJ is growing closer and closer to Peter and starts expressing her interests for him. Harry blames Peter for losing MJ and leaves the city since he doesn't have anything or anyone to stay for anymore. Eddie Brock is out for revenge and confronts Peter a few times throughout the movie, but gets arrested by the police. Peter still works for the Daily Bugle and started helping out Connors in the lab again to keep an eye on him.
Villains:
Doc Ock. I don't really have a story for him yet, but he's just too damn awesome to not be in this franchise. The presence of the symbiote is felt in some way and in the after credits scene we see the symbiote moving towards a prison.

SM6:
Peter is completely over the events that happened in the previous movies and is starting to show his interests towards MJ as well. Harry is back and has decided that he wants to lead Oscorp like his father did. Flash Thompson starts hanging out with Peter more and they become good friends. Peter gets a better job at the Daily Bugle. When working at the lab he noticed that Doctor Connors is doing experiments on lizards again. Peter convinces Connors to stop before he turns into The Lizard again.
Villains:
Venom. The symbiote bonds with Eddie Brock in prison and he escapes. He now knows Spider-man's true identity and starts attacking everyone Peter loves. They have their first real battle at The Daily Bugle where Brock (as Venom) attacked Jameson. Later, Peter finds out that Brock is Venom and they have a huge battle. Venom is defeated and Brock is sent to a special prison built by Oscorp. In the after credits scene, Harry finds something related to the Green Goblin.

I think it would be awesome if this happened. :p
 
Villains that could work in an origin film/first film:
Electro, Chameleon, Vulture, Tombstone

Villains that would be too involved for the first film:
The Lizard, Kraven, Mysterio
 
This is my "in-a-perfect-world" Amazing Spider-Man hexalogy. I know my Spider-Man 5 set-up is unlikely because of Spider-Man 3, but alas...

Spider-Man 1 - Electro & Vulture
Spider-Man 2 - Lizard & Kraven
Spider-Man 3 - Green Goblin & Black Cat
Spider-Man 4 - Scorpion & Mysterio*
Spider-Man 5 - Venom & Green Goblin II
Spider-Man 6 - Doctor Octopus**

*Symbiote Suit Spider-Man
**With Black Cat as an ally of Spider-Man.

I'd love to have Sandman in there, but I couldn't find a place to fit him in, and we've already seen him, so if anyone must be dropped...
 
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Spider-Man:
Peter Parker is in high school and becomes Spider-Man. Mary Jane Watson, the girl Harry Osborn has a crush on, shows interest in Peter. Norman Osborn, Harry’s dad, runs Oscorp and is working on some technology. Peter gets a job at the Daily Bugle, where he becomes the rival of Eddie Brock. Dr. Curt Connors transforms into Lizard and goes on a rampage. This catches Kraven’s attention, and he comes to New York to hunt Lizard. Norman finds out that Peter, his son’s friend, is actually Spider-Man.

Villains:
Kraven & Lizard
 
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