What was the point of fighting Ra's on the monorail?

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  1. the_narc_2000

    the_narc_2000 Registered

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    Maybe I missed the explanation, but why did Batman go after Ra's instead of driving the Batmobile himself to the Wayne building to blow up the monorail supports? Was he there just to make sure he didn't make a premature departure?
     
  2. Two-Face

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    cos Batman wanted a good sending off Ra's himself.
     
  3. Salemdog

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    If Batman failed to stop Ra's one way he would be gotten the other. And he had to make sure Ra's couldn't just stop the train himself and escape. At least it seemed that way to me.
     
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    Because he wanted to stop the microwave emitter from getting to Wayne Tower without collateral damage. He gave the Batmobile to Gordon, so even if he'd fail to stop the train, Gordon can blow the railroad and de-rail the train.
     
  5. The Spider-Bat

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    Because the movie had to have a big battel at the end. Driving a car into a building is a very good way to end a movie.
     
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    Did Batman tell Gordon that he was going to signal him if he did stop the emitter and monorail?
     
  7. guitarsingerguy

    guitarsingerguy Who am I?

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    He shoved the screwdriver into the controls to make sure he didn't stop the train. That's why.
     
  8. The Kid

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    emergency brakes much?
     
  9. Bishop2

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    Bingo.

    Batman had to stop him from stopping the train. And by distracting Ra's from the upcoming crash, he prevented him from coming up with some bizarre way of escaping and saving the emitter.
     
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    Couldnt have said it better myself.
     
  11. Exabyte

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    You mean a car blowing up a tower and a train going into a building is a good way to end the movie's climax.
     
  12. The Spider-Bat

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    I think that every supehero movie should have a big fight between the hero/s and the villian/s.
     
  13. TheVileOne

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    Basically, Batman was there to cause massive amounts of property damage...and to make sure the train didn't stop :) . Ra's could've still stopped the train if he didn't screw up the controls. He also probably wanted to make sure the microwave emitter was destroyed.
     
  14. The Kid

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    seriously.... a train or monorail with no emergency brakes?

    Wayne's father was a real bonehead.
     
  15. Batman2005

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    it has deep, powerful meanings. bruce's father was killed even tho he gave gotham the monorail. now ras tries to destroy the city using the monorail. bruce could let him, but then he may have well just shot joe chill. it's deep, man. it's circular, it goes in circles.
     
  16. The Kid

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    deep circles? or ovals? Then it would be cylindrical.:up:
     
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    Did anyone notice the monorail when Bruce was little, and then how it looked when Rachel was on there, right before she was attacked?

    At first, it was beautiful, now it's ugly and old, and full of graffiti.

    The monorail symobolizes what Gotham USED TO BE before Thomas Wayne was killed, and now that Gotham's father is gone, the city is lost and hopeless.

    Thomas Wayne is God.
    Bruce Wayne is Jesus.
    Gotham City is the Earth.

    God created the Earth, and now that he is gone, Jesus has returned to save the people from its evil corruption.

    or....

    Thomas Wayne created Gotham City, and now that he is dead, Bruce Wayne has returned to save the people from its evil corruption.

    The monorail train is just a symbolism of that corruption, and to show that Gotham was once beautiful, and now it isn't.

    And the point of it crashing is a symbol of Gotham starting over again from scratch. A new, nicer monorail would be built, and the finale is a way of "letting the past go." Starting over again. The monorail basically symbollizes GOTHAM CITY ITSELF.

    ...and it's a way of letting Bruce let go, as well.

    All kinds of things symbolize that.

    - The monorail
    - The mansion burning down
    - The stethoscope

    All these things are destroyed in the end, and they all have to do with his father. Now.....the past is gone, and his NEW life can begin.
     
  18. The Spider-Bat

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    Wow, I never thought of it that way.
     
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    The real reason Batman went after Ra's on the monorail was probably just so he could determine quien es mas macho. :p
     
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    If "screwdriver" is comic book fan slang for "Ra's broken cane sword" then you're right.
     
  21. guitarsingerguy

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    You knew what the hell I meant. That is odd though. Where in the hell did I get screwdriver from? :confused: Stay out of summer school kids. It fries your brain.
     
  22. Excel

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    i thought it was bcause bruice felt responsible for ras still being/everything going on there so he went to make sure he would finsih the job himself.
     
  23. The Guard

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    I think it's Ra's who jammed his cane into the controls, not Batman. Before doing so, Ra's bashed Batman over the head with the piece of cane, then rapidly stabs out the controls. To prevent the train from being able to stop. At that point, Batman falls back on Gordon.
     
  24. Comic Book Boy

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    ....No...I think that is a weak analogy. Not what the film makers intended. You can make that analogy in almost every film but I don't like it.
     
  25. guitarsingerguy

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    Nope. Batman does it, and Ra's doesn't see it. Don't you remember when Ra's looked at Batman and said, "You can't stop this train now." Batman's response was, "Who said anything about stopping it?" Then Ra's looked back and noticed the controls were shot.
     

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