Batman Begins What was the point of fighting Ra's on the monorail?

[The Sage]

I'm pretty sure it was Ra's who jammed the controls. When Batman said "who said anything about stopping it", Ra's looked at the controls then he looked out the window, in which he later on saw the tracks get blown out.

 

[Vile]

From the way I saw it, Batman clearly jammed the controls. As I said before, he was stopped from stopping Ra's from loading the train, and with him battling Ra's he wasnt going to be stopping it anytime soon...not to mention, for all he knew Gordon wouldnt blow the track in time. At that point, the only option was to plow the train into Wayne Towers - destroying the train and emitter completely.

It doesnt make sense for Ra's to jam the controls - a train going full speed slamming into the 'docking bay' of Wayne Tower would be demolished. The emitter wouldnt have time to work it's magic on the water maines. Hell, you saw hole long it took change the water to gas in the Narrows - several seconds at least, seconds it wouldnt have if it would have plowed into Wayne Towers.

Again, this all tying into the explanation I posted on the other page...that seems the most logical...atleast to me. Then again, plotholes in movies are hardly a rare thing.

As to who builds a monorail system without an emergency break? Thomas Wayne, it appears.

 

[graveyardtramp]

I figured it's because Batman needed to ensure the train didn't stop.....if Batman had driven the Batmobile and shot down the track, Ra's may have still been able to stop the train and escape....

 

[graveyardtramp]

Plus it gave the screenwriters a convenient way to give Gordon something to do during the climax....

 

[the_prowler]

Here's the easy answer: Batman fought Ra's on the monorail because the producers figured this would make an excellent final level on the Batman Begins video game.

 

[KING ¼]

Here's the easy answer: Batman fought Ra's on the monorail because the producers figured this would make an excellent final level on the Batman Begins video game.

And it did... except Batman didnt say his wonderful line in the game.

 

[Batty for Bats!]

The only point I could come up with is that it made good movie time. I saw it as the most triumphant scene of Batman including the dead franchises. Batman was facing his once friend for the sake of saving Gotham (much like a Two-Face face off.) He bested Ra's in more than way in fighting and his humanity that he himself wouldn't take Ra's life.

 

[Comic Book Boy]

And it did... except Batman didnt say his wonderful line in the game.

He said a different one that was cool.

Ras: If not murder what do you call this?
Batman: Justice.

(leaves Ras)

 

[mcflytrap]

From the way I saw it, Batman clearly jammed the controls. As I said before, he was stopped from stopping Ra's from loading the train, and with him battling Ra's he wasnt going to be stopping it anytime soon...not to mention, for all he knew Gordon wouldnt blow the track in time. At that point, the only option was to plow the train into Wayne Towers - destroying the train and emitter completely.

It doesnt make sense for Ra's to jam the controls - a train going full speed slamming into the 'docking bay' of Wayne Tower would be demolished. The emitter wouldnt have time to work it's magic on the water maines. Hell, you saw hole long it took change the water to gas in the Narrows - several seconds at least, seconds it wouldnt have if it would have plowed into Wayne Towers.

Again, this all tying into the explanation I posted on the other page...that seems the most logical...atleast to me. Then again, plotholes in movies are hardly a rare thing.

As to who builds a monorail system without an emergency break? Thomas Wayne, it appears.

The first and second times I watched it, I thought Ra's jammed the controls...the 3rd time it seemed like Batman. I'm going w/ Batman right now...until I see it again.

 

[The Kid]

Perhaps it was damaged along with the other controls?

possible but very very very very very very very very unlikely.

I, or my dad actually, been in the transit business since forever, should know...

but I'll let batman slide since spiderman overlooked the emergency brakes and car releases in ever single frelling car on the train in its movie too.

 

[The Sage]

The first and second times I watched it, I thought Ra's jammed the controls...the 3rd time it seemed like Batman. I'm going w/ Batman right now...until I see it again.

It was Ra's my friend, I'm sure of it.

 

[Bishop2]

The first and second times I watched it, I thought Ra's jammed the controls...the 3rd time it seemed like Batman. I'm going w/ Batman right now...until I see it again.

And once again we come back to the recurring theme of: These action sequences were not terribly well-directed.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Ra's jammed the controls........I'm sure ALL will know it when the DVD comes out.....but trust me,......Ra's jammed it with his sword/cane when he attacked Bruce from behind.

 

[Vile]

I find it very hard to believe that Ra's would jam the controls. It makes no sense whatsoever.

 

[batmanfan03]

he also had to turn off the microwave right???

 

[guitarsingerguy]

Yeah, I just saw it again yesterday. Ra's did jam the controls, but I don't think Batman ever had any intentions to stop the train. I think he wanted Ra's to jam the controls thinking he had gotten the upper hand. Who knows. ChrisBaleBatman is right. We won't really know for sure until the DVD comes out.

 

[DACrowe]

1. He wanted to stop the brakes so the train would not stop.

2. He wanted to kill Ra's (and yes he did kill Ra's just like he killed Joker in B'89).

Not much more else to be said.

Oh well.

 

[Orlando Spider]

Guys guys.... you're getting it all wrong.

There were just fighting each other to establish dominancy over their territory!!!

GEEZ

 

[Whack Arnolds]

Ra's jammed it, so Batman couldn't stop the train. Cause otherwise Batman wouldn't have had to blow up the monorail near Wayne Enterprises.

 

[Vile]

Yeah but if Ra's jammed it he's destroying the train and emitter anyways - it makes NO sense for Ra's to jam it.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Wait.........Batman WANTED Ra's to jam the controls.......?

Are you kidding me.......c'mon, who the hell plasn on someone JAMMING the controls?
For that, he should have jammed it himself.


Ra's jammed it in the middle of the battle.........he went to attack Bruce and in the scuffle, he accidently jammed the controls.

The way it seemed, Batman's plan was to stop the train himself........but, He KNOWS his opponent.......Ra's just ain't a pushover. So, he had Jim Gordon as the back up plan in case the train got too close to Wayne Tower.......which it did. So, since the train got close to Wayne Tower.......Gordon blasted the tracks.

What is about Ra's jamming the controls that "makes no sense" exactly......? It was an accident......so that makes sense.

 

[Whack Arnolds]

Wait.........Batman WANTED Ra's to jam the controls.......?

Are you kidding me.......c'mon, who the hell plasn on someone JAMMING the controls?
For that, he should have jammed it himself.


Ra's jammed it in the middle of the battle.........he went to attack Bruce and in the scuffle, he accidently jammed the controls.

The way it seemed, Batman's plan was to stop the train himself........but, He KNOWS his opponent.......Ra's just ain't a pushover. So, he had Jim Gordon as the back up plan in case the train got too close to Wayne Tower.......which it did. So, since the train got close to Wayne Tower.......Gordon blasted the tracks.

What is about Ra's jamming the controls that "makes no sense" exactly......? It was an accident......so that makes sense.

Exactly, lol. Thats why Bats went to the train in the first place. So he could stop the train manually, but of course Ra's is going to fool proof his plan...so Ra's breaks the controls, thus making Bats use his back up plan...which was too have Gordon take out the end of the rail, just in case he couldn't stop the train himself.

 

[Robin91939]

He shoved the screwdriver into the controls to make sure he didn't stop the train. That's why.

I don't think that that was a screwdriver, but the sword after Batman had broken it.

-R

 

[JLBats]

Why did he fight Ra's on the train?


Fun.

 

[uzazil]

I have a question how did batman stay on the monerail? If u watch those big beams went over the track and the track was attatched to the sides. Batman's line should have been snapped or batman at least should have been killed how do u explain that lil' error