The Dark Knight What We Know So Far

[spideyman101]

So, when it says Batman takes the blame for Two-Face's killings... does that mean he takes the blame for who HE killed (if so, who's that?)... or does he take the blame for killing Two-Face... if so, then why would the GPD be after him, because by killing him he was saving the Commissioner!

 

[bkey]

I heard that AMH's character will be recognized by batfans, is this true?

He's not from the comics, but if you have been keeping up with the virals then you know who he is.

So, when it says Batman takes the blame for Two-Face's killings... does that mean he takes the blame for who HE killed (if so, who's that?)... or does he take the blame for killing Two-Face... if so, then why would the GPD be after him, because by killing him he was saving the Commissioner!

He takes responsibility for killing those whom Two Face killed. i.e, Wuertz, Maroni, etc.

 

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[plod]

He takes responsibility for killing those whom Two Face killed. i.e, Wuertz, Maroni, etc.

yeah, he feels sorry for him and I think he wanted to keep his public image intact. Part of it's got to do with what Alfred said to Bruce, being Batman means he can be the outcast; "the right choice'. People will hate him for it but who cares?

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Bruce: People are dying Alfred, what would you have me do?

Alfred: Endure Master Wayne, taken they'll hate you for it but that's the point of Batman. He can be the outcast. He can make the choice no one else can make, the right choice.

 

[SuperJ]

two face isn't gonna be the villian in the 3rd?!!!!!
WTGDF?! what a waste of a freakin awesome vilian just like venom in spiderman 3!!!!

 

[bkey]

two face isn't gonna be the villian in the 3rd?!!!!!
WTGDF?! what a waste of a freakin awesome vilian just like venom in spiderman 3!!!!

This is Dent/Two Face's movie. Its nothing like the "Venom treatment." If any villian is getting that in TDK then its Scarecrow, but really not since he was in BB as well.

 

[Ferd]

I was curious about these few things and was wondering if anyone had any info they could share. I suppose I could wait until Tuesday, but what fun is that?

Any answers or thoughts would be cool. Thanks!

In the scene we've seen so much in trailers of Bruce being emo in the Penthouse, is that

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the subsequent scene after Rachel dies? Or is his apparent upset there over something else?

Also, can someone elaborate on the triangle between Bruce/Rachel/Harvey. I know there is a kiss between Rachel and Bruce-- but is she ever actually with Bruce in the film or simply dating Harvey?

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I have heard rumors she is pregnant? Or possibly engaged? Does this tie in with the 'secret' Alfred holds from Bruce?

 

[Schlosser85]

I have heard rumors

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she is pregnant? Or possibly engaged? Does this tie in with the 'secret' Alfred holds from Bruce?

I believe the secret is that

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Rachel and Harvey are engaged.

 

[bkey]

I was curious about these few things and was wondering if anyone had any info they could share. I suppose I could wait until Tuesday, but what fun is that?

Any answers or thoughts would be cool. Thanks!

In the scene we've seen so much in trailers of Bruce being emo in the Penthouse, is that

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the subsequent scene after Rachel dies? Or is his apparent upset there over something else?

I'm pretty sure it is about what you mentioned.

Also, can someone elaborate on the triangle between Bruce/Rachel/Harvey. I know there is a kiss between Rachel and Bruce-- but is she ever actually with Bruce in the film or simply dating Harvey?

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I have heard rumors she is pregnant? Or possibly engaged? Does this tie in with the 'secret' Alfred holds from Bruce?

This I don't know too much about. In one of Eckhart's interviews he called [BLACKOUT]Rachel Harvey's fiance[/BLACKOUT], but I don't know if that is accurate or not.

 

[SuperJ]

This is Dent/Two Face's movie. Its nothing like the "Venom treatment." If any villian is getting that in TDK then its Scarecrow, but really not since he was in BB as well.

if this is gonna be the only time we'll see two i hope he puts up a good fight or is just one awesome bad@$$ in general-he's my favorite batman villian

 

[Anubis Raptor]

I know next to zero and proud of it

 

[BatSpider]

I believe the secret is that

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Rachel and Harvey are engaged.

Yeah, thats right

 

[dru-zod2501]

two face isn't gonna be the villian in the 3rd?!!!!!
WTGDF?! what a waste of a freakin awesome vilian just like venom in spiderman 3!!!!

true dat!

somebody wanna explain why it's good to kill off villains in hero movies? beyond cheap shock value??

it doesn't help that the only one where a villain didn't die was the worst bat movie, maybe worst hero movie, EVER!

 

[BatoutofHell]

true dat!

somebody wanna explain why it's good to kill off villains in hero movies? beyond cheap shock value??

it doesn't help that the only one where a villain didn't die was the worst bat movie, maybe worst hero movie, EVER!

Beyond cheap shock value? How about looking beyond the ****ing money in a sequel and do as Nolan says over and over, make the best possible film THIS TIME. Every review says Eckhart's role really brings the DARK into TDK, and as Nolan said, the 'backbone' of the film. You don't make a sub-par film so you can have an EASY option making another. You make the best film you can. If another story needs to be told, it will have its own film.

**** the sequel. If there is going to be another film, it should be judged based on its own merits, not based on TDK.

What happens in another movie in which a character doesn't die has nothing to do with TDK. Living villains != Great film. A bikini may look great on Adriana Lima, doesn't look as good on a guy like me. (I'm being modest, I look ****ing great in a bikini) If a character needs to die to make the film as good as it can be, pop him in the head. If not, he lives. That simple.

One last time.

Venom=Cameo as fruity reporter+20 minutes of punching

Harvey/Two Face=Equal screen time as Batman/Joker, provides the story, core of the film.

 

[Sub-Zero]

does someone kill two-face or is it true [BLACKOUT]that he falls to his death?[/BLACKOUT] and afterward is the scene where bats picks up his coin?

did the hbo first look confirm that twoface doesn't get a face full of acid in the courtroom? doesn't it happen after rachel dies?

 

[bkey]

does someone kill two-face or is it true [blackout]that he falls to his death?[/blackout] and afterward is the scene where bats picks up his coin?

did the hbo first look confirm that twoface doesn't get a face full of acid in the courtroom? doesn't it happen after rachel dies?

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Two Face falls off of a building to his death.
I'm not sure if its from the HBO special but Two Face is scarred in a warehouse explosion, not in court by acid, however an attempt is made on Dent's life during Maroni's trial.

 

[Ferd]

Could someone please elaborate on the circumstances surrounding Bruce and the Lamborghini chase? Thanks!

 

[ArcXIX]

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[SuperBatman]

I hate how people get the idea

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That Two Face is getting Venom Treatment when they haven't seen the movie yet

 

[magus]

I hate how people get the idea

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That Two Face is getting Venom Treatment when they haven't seen the movie yet

Well on paper it sounds like it. The comparison isn't totally unjustified when someone says to you:

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Two Face appears in the last half hour and dies at the end

. Beyond those who lurk intently on forums, the average casual fan might not realize just how much of this movie is based on Harvey Dent.

 

[BatoutofHell]

Well on paper it sounds like it. The comparison isn't totally unjustified when someone says to you:

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Two Face appears in the last half hour and dies at the end

. Beyond those who lurk intently on forums, the average casual fan might not realize just how much of this movie is based on Harvey Dent.

They will when they see it. Thats all that matters.

 

[magus]

They will when they see it. Thats all that matters.

I agree.

 

[Schlosser85]

I have a question, I remember way back when that there was supposed to be some kind of montage of things The Joker hates and why he hates them, and one review mentioned a montage halfway through the movie that hints a little at his background, does anyone know about this?

 

[Artanis]

Well on paper it sounds like it. The comparison isn't totally unjustified when someone says to you:

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Two Face appears in the last half hour and dies at the end

. Beyond those who lurk intently on forums, the average casual fan might not realize just how much of this movie is based on Harvey Dent.

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I'm not sure but from the two-face pics i saw with harvey in the hospital and joker with him i think we will get a two-face sight somewhere in the middle of the film correct me if i am wrong but in the timeline there was "harvey in hospital" and it wasn't in the end of the film that makes me think we will have plenty of two-face the bad news is maybe the 3rd film isn't going to be about two-face or with him that is if he realy dies in the end of TDK

 

[TheCaptain]

Anyone think there are any surprises left or does the first page of this thread pretty much cover it??