What would you have done to make these so-so movies better

[nocomics]

I wanted to get an idea of what comic fans and fans of comic moives would of done to make these so-so movies a better movie. Im just gonna throw out a few movies that I thought had potential to be good,but just lacked that something to put it over the top(ya,some of these did well at box office,but they still were'nt great)

1.Daredevil;better story,more action scenes, more interaction with kingpin. A little darker movie; as I think DD seems emotionally angry and let it show more in his viciousness. I'm probably in the minority, I thought Ben Affleck did a fine job as DD, he just had a bad story to work with..

2.Hulk; more of him in it, don't waste 45mins or so doin backround. A little better opponent than poodles,and his dad(or they could of made it a better fight,and plus it was hard to follow as it was soo dark)

3.Elecktra; Better story, better actors,jennifer garner was okay as elecktra. More action longer fight scenes.

4. Blade 3; more action with blade in it. Final battle was a total joke. Should of been a longer dirty brawl. With a first encounter with blade getting his ass kicked..

5.Punisher;I always thought of punisher as a vicious fighter of crime. So, I thought the movie should had a darker tone,more fighting(hand to hand,brawling).

 

[Dr. Fate]

No Elektra in Daredevil. Save Elektra's backstory with Daredevil/Matt Murdock for a later film. And for God's sake don't hire all American apple pie eating girl next door starlet Jennifer Garner to play Elektra when Elektra's supposed to be dark and exotic. Focus more on Matt Murdock's relationship with the doomed Ellen Page character.

With Fantastic Four, make it a little more serious, cut out some of the clunkier comic bits and for God's sake find a better actress than Jessica Alba to play Sue Storm/Invisible Woman.

For Punisher, cut out those misfits who were cohabiting the run-down building the Punisher was using. More emphasis on the Punisher's military background. Less humor.

Hulk - no giant poodles. Fix Talbott, make him more than just a greedy, one dimensional, over the top jerk/bully who wandered in from an Adam Sandler film.

 

[Ronny Shade]

I would've cast Michelle Rodruiguez as Elektra

 

[Hugebear]

Batman Begins. The movie would focus more on Bruce Wayne becoming Batman. No Henri Ducard, No Ra's Al Ghul, No Falcone and No Scarecrow.
It would show Bruce Wayne training with different masters around the world. How convienient that Ra's Al Ghul trained him and that he met all this big time villains on his first month as Batman.
He would return and become Batman like in the movie, and meet Gordon, and get his coustume like in the movie. This movie would be about Batman.

 

[Spider - Man]

I would've cast Michelle Rodruiguez as Elektra

Watch out, Shade. I suggested this - http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=194922 - a while back and opened can of worms!

 

[Dr. Fate]

Batman Begins. The movie would focus more on Bruce Wayne becoming Batman. No Henri Ducard, No Ra's Al Ghul, No Falcone and No Scarecrow.
It would show Bruce Wayne training with different masters around the world. How convienient that Ra's Al Ghul trained him and that he met all this big time villains on his first month as Batman.
He would return and become Batman like in the movie, and meet Gordon, and get his coustume like in the movie. This movie would be about Batman.

We're not talking about Batman Begins here. We're talking about Marvel movies that were mediocre at best.

 

[Savage]

For Daredevil I definately agree that Elektra should have been left out. Focus on the rivalry between Bullseye and Daredevil. Actually give Bullseye a costume for the final act to mock Daredevil. That thing would look awesome in real life if made in the style of DD's with the leather and all...It would actually look a bit like a demented Ultimate Captain America. Elektra could have been brought into a sequel, Bullseye escape prison (adamantium spine thanks to Kingpin as well which would explain how he could even defeat Elektra), Elektra has replaced him as Kingpin's top assasin so he offs her...This could have been an awesome two movies if they didn't try to cram it into one.

Hulk. Basic origin. None of that genetic stuff because that just made the movie longer for the sake of being longer and tedious. To me just changing that would have made the movie 10 times better and one of Marvel's greatest.

Fantastic Four. Doom was the only problem I had with the movie. Doom should have already been established as a world threat. Almost like Osama Bin Laden but grander (having his own country and all). That's one way to go with the character. Another way would be to establish the accident he had in college with Reed and have him go into hiding only to pop up years later when the Fantastic Four show up (pretty much once he sees Reed's face in the paper) to reak havoc on them for revenge...It would be even cooler if he was stealing tech from the Baxter building and using it to create his armor...So establish Doom publicly or in hiding, just having him pre-established would have made the movie a lot better.

X-men. MORE! CYCLOPS! He's the leader for...f**k's sake.

 

[Savage]

Oh and The Punisher. They should have done what was done with Blade. Character already established, pretty much the boogeyman of the underworld. Origins done in flashbacks. An opening that rivals the first Blade's. This is why I'm hoping for a sequel. Everything is already established so just go from there. Action, action, action...They need to stop with all the "heart of gold" crap with these comic book movies because some of these characters were just made for pure action and chaos. Blade, The Punisher, Deadpool. Just good fun.

 

[enterthemadness]

I would go the easy route for Blade 3 and hire a different director.

 

[Max J Power]

1.Daredevil-different actors for Daredevil, Elektra, and Bullseye; Daredevil wouldn't throw a guy in front of a train; Bullseye was kind of dumb, make him cooler; make Elektra more similar to how she is in the comics

2.Hulk-about 30 minutes shorter; better CGI; more action; a better plot; a little less "experimentation" with the filming

3.Elektra-see Daredevil

4. Blade 3-more emphasis on Blade, less on the sidekicks; a villain that isn't stupid; a better director

5.Punisher-I don't regard this one as so-so.

 

[Max J Power]

No Elektra in Daredevil. Save Elektra's backstory with Daredevil/Matt Murdock for a later film. And for God's sake don't hire all American apple pie eating girl next door starlet Jennifer Garner to play Elektra when Elektra's supposed to be dark and exotic. Focus more on Matt Murdock's relationship with the doomed Ellen Page character.

Karen Page

 

[Hugebear]

We're not talking about Batman Begins here. We're talking about Marvel movies that were mediocre at best.

Shoot! My fault. I go back and forth between the DC and Marvel forums.

 

[OmeletDeFromage]

The Hulk shouldn't have looked too human. I've always observed that non-human CGI characters in movies look mostly realistic (which is weird considering these are non-existent fantasy characters), while humanoid-looking ones tend to look rather odd. A 3D version of the Hulk as rendered by artists like Kirby, Mc Farlane or Kubert might've been cool.

Also, I didn't think the Hulk was angry enough in the film. I just didn't feel it. He just looked slightly pissed to me. And it might've been better if the climatic fight ran a lot longer than it did, and if they just tore into the city and caused lots of major destruction. And with better lighting.

 

[Dr. Fate]

Karen Page

D'oh! Damn it... sorry about that. Got actress Ellen Pompeo crossed with Karen Page's name.

 

[Ben Urich]

Daredevil

• No Crouching Tiger acrobatics
• No crappy alt-pop songs on the soundtrack
• A more fearsome Kingpin
• No hyperbaric sleeping chamber
• More Karen Page

X-Men 3

• Make Jean the focus
• Less deaths
• A Magneto with a brain (drop the damn bridge on the facility and be through with it!)
• Better musical score

 

[Roughneck]

1.Daredevil: I thought it was fine, to make it better I say let MSJ Have control so he can do what he wants (ie the Director's Cut)

2.Hulk: Take out the part where he fights his dad...and have the arm creat a robot or the Abomination so Hulk can have a fist fight.

3.Elecktra: More stealthy Nija Stuff...make the mvie Darker

4. Blade 3: Get rid of Parker Posey and HHH, More action, this is Blade vs Dracula....The Fight needed to be HUGE!

5.Punisher: More killing....MORE KILLING, less humanity. And Recast Howard Saint....make Will Pattin Haward Saint, he would have done better than Travolta...oh and hire two different guys to play Saint's kids, ot just slap moustache on him when he playes the other one...and make sure they can act too.

 

[blind_fury]

Daredevil:
1) Cast Ethan Hawke as Matt Murdock, Big Show(WWE) as Kingpin, Jason Statham as Bullsyse, and Monica Bellucci as Elektra.
2) get David Fincher to direct

Elektra:
1) Monica Bellucci as Elektra.
2) R-rating
3) Frank Miller and Robert Rodriguez direct

Hulk
1) Cast Edward Norton as "puny" Banner
2) have an engaging storyline so we care about the characters
3) no freaking poodles!
4) suspenseful transformations like the tv series
5) no father as absorbing man.
6) Spike Jonze directs to make a trippy and surreal Hulk movie instead of a boring snorefest.

 

[Savage]

Daredevil

• No Crouching Tiger acrobatics
• No hyperbaric sleeping chamber

...but...they're...acrobats.

And the sleeping chamber actually made sense. It's hard enough to sleep in the city.

 

[Ben Urich]

...but...they're...acrobats.

And the sleeping chamber actually made sense. It's hard enough to sleep in the city.

What bothered me about Daredevil most is that it couldn't decide if it was a superheroic fantasy or a gritty crime drama. The shower/painkiller scene suggested the latter, whereas the wire-fu fights suggested the former. Which is it? The inconsistency really brought down the film.
The sleeping chamber made no sense at all. It's demonstrated that Matt and Foggy make NO money as lawyers. Where would he get the money to buy that thing? Or his Daredevil suit? Or his gear? None of that made sense, but especially not the sleeping chamber. He never needed it in the comics.

 

[FOG3]

For Daredevil I definately agree that Elektra should have been left out. Focus on the rivalry between Bullseye and Daredevil. Actually give Bullseye a costume for the final act to mock Daredevil. That thing would look awesome in real life if made in the style of DD's with the leather and all...It would actually look a bit like a demented Ultimate Captain America.

Yeh I really hate the stupid leather jacket and wish Bullseye had a costume whenever I watch that movie.. I wouldve left out Elektra and all the nu metal.. Mightve been a better movie with him just taking on Kingpin and Bullseye.

 

[Savage]

What bothered me about Daredevil most is that it couldn't decide if it was a superheroic fantasy or a gritty crime drama. The shower/painkiller scene suggested the latter, whereas the wire-fu fights suggested the former. Which is it? The inconsistency really brought down the film.
The sleeping chamber made no sense at all. It's demonstrated that Matt and Foggy make NO money as lawyers. Where would he get the money to buy that thing? Or his Daredevil suit? Or his gear? None of that made sense, but especially not the sleeping chamber. He never needed it in the comics.

...You know what? You're right. A lot of these things were very inconsistant. It's like they thought up cool ideas last minute and decided to throw it in without thinking about how it would fit. I like the ideas but come to think of it, the execution made no sense.

The wire-fu was necessary for characters lik Daredevil and Elektra though. Their comics are ultra-realistic and gritty as well but that doesn't stop them from doing these fantastic things. I'm just glad it was kept only to them and not Bullseye and Kingpin. That'd just be weird.

 

[Savage]

Yeh I really hate the stupid leather jacket and wish Bullseye had a costume whenever I watch that movie.. I wouldve left out Elektra and all the nu metal.. Mightve been a better movie with him just taking on Kingpin and Bullseye.

I actually liked his look. I just think that the comic costume would have worked better in context...Or at least take the coat off for his final battle with Daredevil. Nothing in the way, just all out ass whuppin...Would have been easier on the CGI guys too.

 

[HighVoltage]

Oh and The Punisher. They should have done what was done with Blade. Character already established, pretty much the boogeyman of the underworld. Origins done in flashbacks. An opening that rivals the first Blade's. This is why I'm hoping for a sequel. Everything is already established so just go from there. Action, action, action...They need to stop with all the "heart of gold" crap with these comic book movies because some of these characters were just made for pure action and chaos. Blade, The Punisher, Deadpool. Just good fun.

This post is good, and Terry Crews Rules!!!!

 

[Dr. Fate]

What bothered me about Daredevil most is that it couldn't decide if it was a superheroic fantasy or a gritty crime drama. The shower/painkiller scene suggested the latter, whereas the wire-fu fights suggested the former. Which is it? The inconsistency really brought down the film.
The sleeping chamber made no sense at all. It's demonstrated that Matt and Foggy make NO money as lawyers. Where would he get the money to buy that thing? Or his Daredevil suit? Or his gear? None of that made sense, but especially not the sleeping chamber. He never needed it in the comics.

You are correct sir. I've often felt that way myself about Daredevil but could never vocalize it as well as you have.

Oh man did I hate that scene in the restaraunt where Foggy reveals they get paid in fish and cheese wheels...

 

[dr.strange]

i think a lot of these characters would work as a series or miniseries. y know like how hbo did with the spawn animation series.you can make them more than one dimensional.but thats wishful thinking i guess.