What would you want to see in another Hulk movie?

[The Overlord]

What would you want to see in another Hulk movie? Should Bruce Banner be played by Mark Ruffalo or someone else? Who should be the villain? Should the movie be a reboot or a sequel to the last movie?

 

[bubbadoom]

NOT another reboot - just move forward, does not need to be a direct sequel to TIH, but should build upon what ever is in the Avengers.

But most importantly, he need to be redesigned to look like the real Hulk, the Kirby/Ayers Hulk from Hulk #3-5 and Avengers #1.

 

[gn6196]

The last Hulk movie was good. More of the same.

 

[co2]

Need to see more personality from the Hulk and more Banner vs. Hulk. Expound on the dichotomy between the two. Makes for a better ending when they both have to come to terms with it to beat the bad guy. That's what the best Hulk comics always did.

 

[gmanca]

What do I personally want to see? Ang Lee back to do a sequel; IMO he's the only one who's actually gotten the Hulk/Banner dynamic. Yes, he didn't do an exact origins story but neither did TIH, but unlike that film, there was a Rick Jones in the form of the colleague who Bana saved from the Gammasphere.

Bringing him back would be great in respect to what he could do with the foundation already built; no need for new origins, just to take the villains and action sequences up a notch. The real problem with HULK was the pacing/tempo that missed the comedic beats and didn't have the action sequences spread out so that people didn't easily lull themselves.

So yeah either he comes back or they get someone who can do the dramatic and action side in a clever fashion. I'm tired of the generic Army sequences that keep happening because of the origin retelling.

 

[The Morningstar]

More focus on the Hulk as an actual personality. Ang's version showed a bit of that, but I want more.

 

[Silvermoth]

A great story that better defines the relationship between Banner and Hulk. I want Banner to be scared and horrified when he transforms.

Also The Leader and She-Hulk.

 

[kedrell]

Ang's 'I'm gonna use my own ideas because they're better than the comics' approach just came off as insulting. At least in TIH, Letterier said they were doing the TV show version(which I can at least respect even if I'm not fond of that idea). Ang gave the impression he was doing the comics and then went back largely to the TV show(created in a lab, virtually no characterization for Hulk, no Rick Jones). And they both ended up with about the same level of piss poor characterization of Hulk(5 words spoken in AngHulk, 6 in TIH).

Yeah, everyone seems to be on the same page here with what is needed for the future. With technology like they used in Avatar, there is absolutely no excuse anymore.

 

[Gamma Ra]

More focus on the Hulk as an actual personality. Ang's version showed a bit of that, but I want more.

Yeah, a Hulk that is a real character with a personality himself, would be nice.

I wouldn't mind Ang back but after the first Hulk fiasco, I doubt he'd want to work with Marvel Studios again.

I'd actually like to have a script or treatment written by Greg Pak and Peter David, who both have written movie scripts before.

More direct conflict between Hulk and Banner.

 

[The Morningstar]

Ang's 'I'm gonna use my own ideas because they're better than the comics' approach just came off as insulting. At least in TIH, Letterier said they were doing the TV show version(which I can at least respect even if I'm not fond of that idea). Ang gave the impression he was doing the comics and then went back largely to the TV show(created in a lab, virtually no characterization for Hulk, no Rick Jones). And they both ended up with about the same level of piss poor characterization of Hulk(5 words spoken in AngHulk, 6 in TIH).

Yeah, everyone seems to be on the same page here with what is needed for the future. With technology like they used in Avatar, there is absolutely no excuse anymore.

I didn't get that from Ang's version at all. There was no pretentiousness there. He just wanted to make a film more about the psychology of the character, and for the most part I think he got it right. AND the action in Ang's Hulk is superior to Lettierier's. I'd say that 20 minute fight against the army in the desert leading to San Franciso is still one of the best action scenes in a comic book movie.

His Hulk had an actual personality of himself. Even if he didn't have much dialogue. The part where he was jumping through the air with a kinda, peaceful child like look on his face. Where he landed at that lake in the desert and was looking at his reflection and the moss. And also the scenes where Banner was looking into the mirror and Hulk was looking back at him "Puny human". Showed that Hulk and Banner are distinct personalities, that the Hulk persona actually kinda resents the puny Banner. And it had genius lines like this.

"Even now I can feel it, buried somewhere deep inside, watching me, waiting... But you know what scares me the most? When I can't fight it anymore, when it takes over, when I totally lose control... I like it"

 

[gn6196]

Maybe The Avengers hunting him down.

 

[bubbadoom]

Yeah, a Hulk that is a real character with a personality himself, would be nice.

I wouldn't mind Ang back but after the first Hulk fiasco, I doubt he'd want to work with Marvel Studios again.

I'd actually like to have a script or treatment written by Greg Pak and Peter David, who both have written movie scripts before.

More direct conflict between Hulk and Banner.

Ang Lee's HULK was not Marvel Studios, it was Universal Studios -there is a difference.

 

[Doc Ock]

All I want is a sequel to TIH, with or without Edward Norton. Maybe having Tim Blake Nelson as The Leader.

 

[kedrell]

I'd actually like to have a script or treatment written by Greg Pak and Peter David, who both have written movie scripts before.

While I'm not sure they should do the final script polish, they should have the same level of involvement as guys like JMS had on Thor. PAD & Pak KNOW Hulk like few other writers do.

 

[kedrell]

I didn't get that from Ang's version at all. There was no pretentiousness there. He just wanted to make a film more about the psychology of the character, and for the most part I think he got it right. AND the action in Ang's Hulk is superior to Lettierier's. I'd say that 20 minute fight against the army in the desert leading to San Franciso is still one of the best action scenes in a comic book movie.

His Hulk had an actual personality of himself. Even if he didn't have much dialogue. The part where he was jumping through the air with a kinda, peaceful child like look on his face. Where he landed at that lake in the desert and was looking at his reflection and the moss. And also the scenes where Banner was looking into the mirror and Hulk was looking back at him "Puny human". Showed that Hulk and Banner are distinct personalities, that the Hulk persona actually kinda resents the puny Banner. And it had genius lines like this.

"Even now I can feel it, buried somewhere deep inside, watching me, waiting... But you know what scares me the most? When I can't fight it anymore, when it takes over, when I totally lose control... I like it"

I never said the film was pretentious. It's kind of amazing, given it's heavy subject matter, that it didn't slide into that open pit. In fact I didn't use that word at all. But now that you mention it, Ang & Schamus were both pretentious with their 'our ideas are better' mentality that they had. They weren't better. They sucked.

Nanomeds? Nuclear weapons no longer relevant? No Rick Jones. Bruce Krenzler? Banner not having a share in the morally questionable act of creating a massive weapon(by choice)? Banner's dad still being alive and becoming Absorbing Dad instead of dead and tormenting him as a memory? Bull***t.

Sure some tweaking to update would be necessary but they ended up throwing the baby out with the bath water. And it's not like I wanted the psychological aspects removed(that's Hulk 101) but I sure didn't want it done the way Ang did it. And you can only do so much with facial expressions & body language. Dialogue(and lots of it) is crucial from the Hulk.

It had some good lines to it, I'll grant you that. Nolte had most of them.

 

[Knight Rise]

The Leader will obviously be in the next, if there is one

 

[gmanca]

Nanomeds? Nuclear weapons no longer relevant? No Rick Jones. Bruce Krenzler? Banner not having a share in the morally questionable act of creating a massive weapon(by choice)? Banner's dad still being alive and becoming Absorbing Dad instead of dead and tormenting him as a memory? Bull***t.

Nanomeds weren't the reason why he became the Hulk, it was the gamma radiation; he already had the elements because of what his father passed but it was the gammasphere going off that catalyzed it. And Krenzler was just a throwaway to show him oblivious to his father's history, which is why he wouldn't question his past until he meets him in the hallway.

Finally, there was a Rick Jones character, who knows why they couldn't say he was Rick Jones, perhaps that was with Marvel and not Universal. But to pack that film with more of the saved colleague would be too much; however in a sequel, his help would make sense with Banner on the run.

I mean, some of the criticisms have to take into consideration that Lee wanted to do a sequel; I'm sure they all assumed the film would be successful and that instead of making all of the loose ends in the first film, they would touch on the in the sequel.

 

[kedrell]

The whole repressed memory angle bugged me as well. In the comics, he has a repressed personality. But he remembers everything. Which makes his psychological damage all the more severe. I just think that once again it was a poor choice when the comics actually had a better option.

 

[marcvader]

Need to see more personality from the Hulk and more Banner vs. Hulk. Expound on the dichotomy between the two. Makes for a better ending when they both have to come to terms with it to beat the bad guy. That's what the best Hulk comics always did.

This is pretty much what I would want. Include Rick Jones and Doc Samson and The Leader would most definitely have to be the villain as well.

 

[Gamma Ra]

Ang Lee's HULK was not Marvel Studios, it was Universal Studios -there is a difference.

It may have not been called Marvel Studios at the time, but all the major players are the same, except Avi Arad's son took his place, but Feige and Hurd were and are the puppet masters on Hulk films.

 

[Gamma Ra]

While I'm not sure they should do the final script polish, they should have the same level of involvement as guys like JMS had on Thor. PAD & Pak KNOW Hulk like few other writers do.

PAD actually submitted a script for a Hulk movie that was printed in some comic mag. It was pretty good. Greg Pak's background is rooted in NYU film school. He writes and directs short films and was critically acclaimed for at least one.

I think if JMS, Guggenheim and Whedon can do it, so could these two.

 

[marcvader]

It may have not been called Marvel Studios at the time, but all the major players are the same, except Avi Arad's son took his place, but Feige and Hurd were and are the puppet masters on Hulk films.

Actually, Ari Arad's last involvement with Marvel Studios was as executive producer in Iron Man 2008 and Gail Ann Hurd has not produced anything Marvel related since Punisher WarZone in 2008 and Feige was only an executice producer for Hulk back in 2003.

 

[S. Grundy]

The only properties Hurd was involved in were Punisher and Hulk, so there may a chance she will have some role in whatever they plan to do with the Punisher, but who really who knows.

I would love to see the Leader make a full appearance, Tim Blake Nelson was great in TIH.

 

[Gamma Ra]

Actually, Ari Arad's last involvement with Marvel Studios was as executive producer in Iron Man 2008 and Gail Ann Hurd has not produced anything Marvel related since Punisher WarZone in 2008 and Feige was only an executice producer for Hulk back in 2003.

My point was directed only about the Hulk Films, and that the major producers of Marvel and Marvel Studios Hulk films were the same for both Hulk and TIH. I was wrong about Ari, which makes my initial point that stronger, Ari's dad Avi Arad, Kevin Feige and Gale Anne Hurd did indeed work on both Hulk films.

 

[marcvader]

TIH never came up but whtever.