Guardians of the Galaxy What you didn't like about Guardians of the Galaxy - Flaws/Critiques

[ctsketch]

Yes but kicking CGI rats makes Quill an *******. It's the equivalent of forcing dogs to fight.

the mean the vicious looking alien life one of which looked like it wanted to bite Quill's face off before he used it as a microphone?

 

[ctsketch]

If the cybernetic eye and cybernetic leg joke had been in a Michael Bay the usual suspects would be saying it's mean-spirited and gross.

I laughed at the plastic leg and plastic eye joke, but they're just as bad as shooting the space vagina in TF4, actually they're worse.

it's all about execution...those jokes feel out of place in Transformers and cheap gags...rocket is supposed to be an ahole

 

[piccolo]

This was a great movie too, and the humor wasn't a problem either.

Not everyone enjoyed it, and that's fine by me. But these points that some are making are quite honestly baffling to me.

I meant humor wasn't the problem with Guardians.

Rocket and Groot were the only characters I had no problems with, and they're basically cartoons. So the idea that my objections to this movie are based on philosophical notions of how 'light' and 'fun' a movie should be is kind of silly.

 

[Sexy Magician]

Yea Luke is a cold hearted bastard.

You're damn right he is!

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

I'm neutral on the topic of Groot's sacrifice. It made no sense from a logical, scientific, reasonable POV. They should have all died with flaming twigs strewn every which way. However, this is a movie that featured a talking raccoon and tree while somewhere else, a Norse God is having a drink with a green rage monster. Sooooo I'll buy it?



Hahaha. I think we're doing a good job of voicing opposing opinions and nobody's been banned yet. This has to be a Hype record.

Groot's wood is fireproof.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Groot's wood is fireproof.

So I see. I just looked it up and apparently he has the ability to alter his sap if he chooses to make himself flammable. Hahaha, comic books.

 

[Xrathe]

My only gripe would be the fight scenes were all super short lived. Especially the Gamora vs Nebula fight where they kept cutting away from it.

 

[Flint Marko]

it's all about execution...those jokes feel out of place in Transformers and cheap gags...rocket is supposed to be an ahole

Exactly. It was in line with what we saw previously in rockets character. If it was drax or gamora it wouldn't have made any sense. The senseless comparisons to bay's film are unnecessary.


That being said, I have a question. Has it explained why thanos isn't getting these stones for himself? Why did he charge Ronan with getting it, if he was so powerful why can't he get it done himself?

 

[ctsketch]

My only gripe would be the fight scenes were all super short lived. Especially the Gamora vs Nebula fight where they kept cutting away from it.

I agree with that one. I heard so much about that fight I thought it would be epic. Maybe they cut it

 

[Creo]

I thought Karen Gillan's was a bit weak. Nebula seemed a bit over acted in parts (why was she screaming all the time?) and here exaggerated walk was a bit annoying.

 

[metaphysician]

Groot's wood is fireproof.

He's also probably the most durable thing we see in the movie other than Ronan. Talking about Groot having the durability of wood is like complaining about Hulk shrugging off tank fire because he's made of flesh.

 

[Marathon]

Sometimes it just happens, though... a movie is praised to high heavens and you yourself end up unintentionally not liking it very much. I certainly had no preconceived willingness to dislike the movie; pretty much the opposite. I just think Gunn/Marvel had a very different kind of movie in mind with the material than I had. I had hoped for a movie heavy on patient world-building; exploring the hows and whys of the Xandar-Kree conflict; and less action/violence/explosions.

As I said, it happens. We move on.

 

[ATuttle]

First Off:

But then in the very next scene (a clear homage to the opening sequence to "Raiders of the Lost Ark") Peter Quinn is kicking and strangling and throwing alien "frogs." As an animal lover (LOVED ROCKET, BTW!!!)this aspect of the scene really disturbed me, Not only was it unecessary (no need for him to interact with any creatures at all on the decimated alien landscape), but it was antithetical to the nature of the character the movie had just created. And having Peter Quill have heart and compassion is what makes the movie work.

God I wish they never had shown him being sadistic to any living animals / creatures. It ruined part of the movie for me.

Am I nuts?

(and am I the only one who felt this way?)

You're not nuts. I hated those moments. It made me dislike him immensely.

In general, it's a relief to see this thread as I'm only hearing people love it. Not sure there is much to add to this that hasn't been said, but I'd sum up that there are two kinds of complaints.

The first that I agree with expressed here are versus the comic book:

--Ronan being a super thin cardboard version of the a far more interesting character. Completely wasted as a throwaway villain.

--Gamora being way too soft. The deadliest woman in the universe was pretty much a damsel in distress who could kick a little bit. And way too nice.

--Drax was too weak. And not having his specific mission be the destruction of Thanos? It's literally why he exists.

--Rocket was okay, but I agree with some points here that he was kind of a more unlikable sort of sardonic as opposed to the fun kind he is in the comic.

--No mention of Nova. Nova Corps in general being kind of weak. General lack of hinting at all the potential cosmic beings and the power levels at play.

--Physical look of Thanos far worse than in Avengers. And in general, give him an opportunity to show how dangerous he is. Why was he okay with Ronan doing that to the Other?

The second kind is as a movie in general. I agree that it was as though it were trying to distract us with jokes (kind of mean spirited ones at times, at that) to cover for the fact that it didn't know how to develop these characters or their world properly. Sum it up in two moments. The cringe worthy dance to distract Ronan. It's the entire film in a nutshell. Don't know how to handle this so I'll distract you with a dance (or a nostalgia song, or a joke). And the appearance of Howard the Duck--opting for a cheap laugh instead of a moment of development in the MCU.

I get that people found it entertaining, but why I loved Avengers is because it was rewarding if you read the comic and also if you did not. This one feels tailored to appeal to the non-comic reading world.

 

[ctsketch]

I like how all these critics are new users with only one post

 

[Sexy Magician]

First Off:





You're not nuts. I hated those moments. It made me dislike him immensely.

In general, it's a relief to see this thread as I'm only hearing people love it. Not sure there is much to add to this that hasn't been said, but I'd sum up that there are two kinds of complaints.

The first that I agree with expressed here are versus the comic book:

--Ronan being a super thin cardboard version of the a far more interesting character. Completely wasted as a throwaway villain.

--Gamora being way too soft. The deadliest woman in the universe was pretty much a damsel in distress who could kick a little bit. And way too nice.

--Drax was too weak. And not having his specific mission be the destruction of Thanos? It's literally why he exists.

--Rocket was okay, but I agree with some points here that he was kind of a more unlikable sort of sardonic as opposed to the fun kind he is in the comic.

--No mention of Nova. Nova Corps in general being kind of weak. General lack of hinting at all the potential cosmic beings and the power levels at play.

--Physical look of Thanos far worse than in Avengers. And in general, give him an opportunity to show how dangerous he is. Why was he okay with Ronan doing that to the Other?

The second kind is as a movie in general. I agree that it was as though it were trying to distract us with jokes (kind of mean spirited ones at times, at that) to cover for the fact that it didn't know how to develop these characters or their world properly. Sum it up in two moments. The cringe worthy dance to distract Ronan. It's the entire film in a nutshell. Don't know how to handle this so I'll distract you with a dance (or a nostalgia song, or a joke). And the appearance of Howard the Duck--opting for a cheap laugh instead of a moment of development in the MCU.

I get that people found it entertaining, but why I loved Avengers is because it was rewarding if you read the comic and also if you did not. This one feels tailored to appeal to the non-comic reading world.

Are not all comic book movies tailored to the non comic reading world? Surely you know the main reason they make movies is to make money, pleasing us who read the comics is second to that. I really think you and a lot of people are taking this movie way to seriously, I read the 2008 run of Guardians and a couple of the new ones and I think this movie is an improvement on the characters we get on the page, its an adaptation not a carbon copy.

As for the Howard the Duck scene, I loved it, you, like a lot of Marvel fans, have been spoiled by what we have already been exceptionally lucky to be treated to, the fact you expect or are upset that the end wasn't 'a moment of development for the MCU' baffles me, what if Marvel never even started doing the end credits thing in the first place? Be grateful for what you are getting.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Well, I think telling a paying customer to be grateful is going a bit far.

 

[Sexy Magician]

Well, I think telling a paying customer to be grateful is going a bit far.

Nobody forced him to pay

 

[PacificBoy]

The second kind is as a movie in general. I agree that it was as though it were trying to distract us with jokes (kind of mean spirited ones at times, at that) to cover for the fact that it didn't know how to develop these characters or their world properly. Sum it up in two moments. The cringe worthy dance to distract Ronan. It's the entire film in a nutshell. Don't know how to handle this so I'll distract you with a dance (or a nostalgia song, or a joke). And the appearance of Howard the Duck--opting for a cheap laugh instead of a moment of development in the MCU.

That's the whole point of the dance -- Quill didn't know how to handle Ronan after throwing everything but the kitchen sink at him. He saw a glimmer of a chance in Rocket's last-minute tampering with the gun and Starlord did something desperate and fitting for his character, the silly dance as distraction.

I'm not a big fan of Howard's cameo and would have preferred the Comic-Con Age of Ultron trailer instead, but you gotta admit it did fit the movie's sensibilities after all. It's consistent.

 

[Dark Raven]

I think that there could have been a mid credits scene, with Howard the Duck just being the very end credits scene, similar to CA:TWS, T:TDW or The Avengers. That way there could be one scene with some development, and another with something just of interest to fans but not really adding that much. I don't know why a mid credits scene wasn't included this time round.

 

[piccolo]

At the risk of defending this movie, everyone complaining about Quill's treatment of the animals in the 2nd opening scene does realize that they were carnivores trying to eat him, right?

He wasn't just kicking around innocent little frogs, those things were lunging at him with bad intentions.

Strong 1rd post though. I'll add to Gamora that she was incredibly small, frail, and unimposing, as opposed to the comics version who is 6'0 tall and built. There were absolutely zero imminent threat vibes from her. Even to Peter Quill.

 

[Sexy Magician]

That's the whole point of the dance -- Quill didn't know how to handle Ronan after throwing everything but the kitchen sink at him. He saw a glimmer of a chance in Rocket's last-minute tampering with the gun and Starlord did something desperate and fitting for his character, the silly dance as distraction.

I'm not a big fan of Howard's cameo and would have preferred the Comic-Con Age of Ultron trailer instead, but you gotta admit it did fit the movie's sensibilities after all. It's consistent.

Exactly, the dance was a distraction and fit Peters character, what else could he have done to distract him? Fair enough mu first thought wouldn't be to dance, but I'm not Peter Quill.

 

[Sexy Magician]

At the risk of defending this movie, everyone complaining about Quill's treatment of the animals in the 2nd opening scene does realize that they were carnivores trying to eat him, right?

He wasn't just kicking around innocent little frogs, those things were lunging at him with bad intentions.

Strong 1rd post though. I'll add to Gamora that she was incredibly small, frail, and unimposing, as opposed to the comics version who is 6'0 tall and built. There was absolutely no imminent threat vibes from her at all. Even to Peter Quill.

Yeah, its like no one noticed they were vicious, the one he used as a microphone lunged at him, he caught it before it reached his face

 

[ctsketch]

At the risk of defending this movie, everyone complaining about Quill's treatment of the animals in the 2nd opening scene does realize that they were carnivores trying to eat him, right?

He wasn't just kicking around innocent little frogs, those things were lunging at him with bad intentions.

Strong 1rd post though. I'll add to Gamora that she was incredibly small, frail, and unimposing, as opposed to the comics version who is 6'0 tall and built. There were absolutely no imminent threat vibes from her at all. Even to Peter Quill.

People seem to forget that

 

[ATuttle]

Are not all comic book movies tailored to the non comic reading world? Surely you know the main reason they make movies is to make money, pleasing us who read the comics is second to that. I really think you and a lot of people are taking this movie way to seriously, I read the 2008 run of Guardians and a couple of the new ones and I think this movie is an improvement on the characters we get on the page, its an adaptation not a carbon copy.

As for the Howard the Duck scene, I loved it, you, like a lot of Marvel fans, have been spoiled by what we have already been exceptionally lucky to be treated to, the fact you expect or are upset that the end wasn't 'a moment of development for the MCU' baffles me, what if Marvel never even started doing the end credits thing in the first place? Be grateful for what you are getting.

My point isn't that they owe us a develop moment at the end, my point is that Howard the Duck summed up the choices this film made--choices that didn't thrill me. And I don't think the movies are solely for the non comic book readers. The best ones (e.g. Avengers, Winter Soldier) cross over for both.

 

[StarLord]

I think that there could have been a mid credits scene, with Howard the Duck just being the very end credits scene, similar to CA:TWS, T:TDW or The Avengers. That way there could be one scene with some development, and another with something just of interest to fans but not really adding that much. I don't know why a mid credits scene wasn't included this time round.

I dunno. I think Marvel were just concentrating on this movie being it's own thing without having to delve too much into what's happened in previous movies or what's going to happen in upcoming ones.

I wasn't fussed at the end credits scene, personally. They've been in every other MCU movie so it was kinda refreshing to have a little break from that.