What's The Last Movie You Watched? VIII - Part 3

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X-men: First Class

It took X-men four films later to finally get me interested in this franchise. Loved most of the performances and had some great dialogue. Only dislike from the film is maybe the feel of it being rushed even though it's over 2 hours long.
8/10
 
Commando

I once described this as Shakespeare as sung by the angels in heaven. I've come to discover, that's not enough praise for this precious treasure of humanity.

Also, it just hit me, how much more awesome would it have been with Jesse Ventura as Bennett?

5/5
 
Those are the attractive qualities I mentioned but still, that doesn't mean she was worth falling in love with so quickly and for Bond to feel the amount of pain he felt.
I'm looking at it from the point of view that Bond is a bachelor, a womaniser as so perfectly described by vesper and yet because she was able to identify the sort of man he is, shows some vulnerability, that makes her worth falling in love with??? I don't buy it. What's even worse is, QoS does very little to try and beef up the memory of Vesper to really drive home Bond's pain and peace he's searching for. Instead we get a few nods here and there, See Bond looking miserable over Vesper but not really understanding why. The emotional impact Vesper had on Bond was one of the reasons why we got the reboot in the first place and I think they missed a great opportunity to convey why Bond loved this woman so much in the short space of time that he did. Seriously, QoS is all about Bond's resolve over Vesper and the whole film just felt ridiculously hollow in that regard.

What do you mean you don't buy it and it was in too short amout of time? So people falling in love has to have a set in stone schedule? Love is a funny thing, there is no schedule to falling in love. There is no set amount of time it takes to fall in love.

Anyway last film watched was Blood Diamond.
 
What do you mean you don't buy it and it was in too short amout of time? So people falling in love has to have a set in stone schedule? Love is a funny thing, there is no schedule to falling in love. There is no set amount of time it takes to fall in love.

Anyway last film watched was Blood Diamond.

I mean I don't buy it. I don't buy someone like Bond with a particular mindset and attitude towards women, giving up his playboy ways to settle down and hopelessly fall deep in love with someone who he just met in a ridiculously short space of time.; which is why I made a contrast to the Bond/Vesper relationship to that of Bond and Tracy's. Had CR spent a bit more time developing Bond and Vesper's relationship where we could actually see Bond's love blossom ala ohmss then it would come off as more believable to me but the fact that Bond's running around as though he's had his heart shishkebabed and then fed to a bunch of starving pigs just doesn't seem credible to me.


Last film watched, the brilliant xmen first class. Easily the best film in the series for me.

10/10
 
I was half way through watching another cheesy D grade 80’s film (Revenge of the Ninja) when I found myself realising how much dumber I’ve become for completely overindulging in this **** this year so far. Seeing as how I’m watching X-Men First Class tomorrow, I popped in the original X-Men film, which I hadn’t seen in quite some time to see if it was the smart blockbuster I remembered.

4/5. These days it gets more love for what it wrought than as a film itself. Pity. It's a damn good piece of work.

I'd forgotten how amazing Stewart, McKellen and Jackman truly are in this film. I would've campaigned to get Stewart a nomination for Best Supporting Actor. He gives Xavier such a gravitas that you can't help but believe in and be inspired by what he says. There's great subtlety in scenes with X and Magneto together, you can really feel there's a lost friendship there. I'm not sure if it's the First Class trailers drilled in my mind or the subtlety of the actors, but I was quite touched when Erik asked Charles what he was looking for, Charles’ voice almost breaks and he says “I’m looking for hope”.

McKellen’s Magneto is great for what screen time he’s got, there’s a true contempt in his eyes when dealing with the likes of Senator Kelly. No doubt it’s a performance imbued by McKellen’s real life experiences, but to me that’s what makes him the definition of an anti-villain. His personal tragedies aren’t his fault but they’ve galvanized him with such a hateful exterior. I love that Singer never, ever flat out paints him as evil.

People complain that the X-Men series is more Wolverine and Friends, but how could they not be, Hugh Jackman’s Wolverine in the Bryan Singer X-Men films is quite simply, to me, the best cinematic superhero of the new era and right there with Chris Reeve’s Superman in all time rankings. He’s the love child of all of cinemas great anti heroes with a heart; he has the screen presence of The Man with No Name, the world weariness and exasperation of John McClane and the self awareness and swagger of Han Solo. I think this kind of character is what the big budget fantasy films that play it straight are missing, someone who knows this stuff is silly. Imagine Bruce Willis, as an army lieutenant with his trademark **** eating smirk in tow looking at Jake Sully and laughing about how he looks like a giant smurf, or if any of the Pirates sequels actually used Jack Sparrow like they did in the first film instead just making him prance around like a sausage nigel. That’s what Jackman adds to these films and I think it’s invaluable to have an audience surrogate genuinely disbelieve the more fantastical elements of the film, because when he does face the consequences of his disbelief, it just serves to suck the audience into the world of the film.

I don’t think there’s much more to be said about the themes of X-Men in its entire spectrum of media, they’ve been widely discussed and dissected. I will give props to Singer for being broader than others who’ve tackled the material. He really encompasses everything one could associate with depth in an X-Men film.

At this point I just deleted a whole section covering stuff like the Martin Luther King/Malcolm X parallels or Charles and Erik, how the isolation and fear the onset of their powers young mutants, Rogue in particular, at Xavier’s school feel is a metaphor for puberty, how mutants hiding their powers in public is an allusion to homosexuality and coming out of the closet. Really it was for my benefit than anyone else’s. I think primarily Singer’s films deal with what it is to be an individual. If you boil it all right down to the very core, it’s really all about you being yourself and staying true to yourself and not having to apologise for who you are or what you love. But for God sakes, you can be true to yourself in moderation, otherwise you’ll end up with a huge cheesy 80’s B action movie hangover.

Now if you’ll excuse me, I really need to go read a book.
 
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first Class amazing film :up:
 
I just found that they did such a good job of setting up the relationship between Charles and Erik while only hinting at the formation of a relationship between Raven and Erik. While it had a nice dramatic oomph with the gunshot at the end, I feel like the destruction of that relationship as well as Raven drifting to the dark side of Erik could have filled an entire film. If the next one began with them recruiting and running the school together as old friends (if only by a few years) who face a challenge that pulls them apart would have been nice. Charles could have walked for another movie and we could see them drift apart. Also, Raven losing faith in Charles could have been better developed than really just one "kitchen table" scene before the climax. That way the break-up could have been more painful. As it is, Charles and Erik seemed like they were buddies for 3-6 months and went their separate ways.

I still liked the ending, but I think dramatically it felt rushed when they could have done a whole film exploring them reaching that point.

I agree. The only major problem I had with the movie is that the story of Charles and Eriks split could have easily covered 2 or 3 films. McAvoy and Fassbender have a good chemistry and it would have been interesting to see the highs and lows of that relashionship play out over a long period of time. I still enjoyed the film VERY much but I think you make a good point.


Commando

I once described this as Shakespeare as sung by the angels in heaven. I've come to discover, that's not enough praise for this precious treasure of humanity.

Also, it just hit me, how much more awesome would it have been with Jesse Ventura as Bennett?

5/5

Ventura would have played if different, more bravado and in your faceness, but it would have been awesome.

The thing with Bennet though was the whole "Freddie Mercury on steroids" look/feel that Vernon Wells gave the character made him all the more entertaining. He just looked absurd...which matched the awesome absurdity of the whole movie.
 
I was half way through watching another cheesy D grade 80’s film (Revenge of the Ninja) when I found myself realising how much dumber I’ve become for completely overindulging in this **** this year so far. Seeing as how I’m watching X-Men First Class tomorrow, I popped in the original X-Men film, which I hadn’t seen in quite some time to see if it was the smart blockbuster I remembered.

4/5. These days it gets more love for what it wrought than as a film itself. Pity. It's a damn good piece of work.

I'd forgotten how amazing Stewart, McKellen and Jackman truly are in this film. I would've campaigned to get Stewart a nomination for Best Supporting Actor. He gives Xavier such a gravitas that you can't help but believe in and be inspired by what he says. There's great subtlety in scenes with X and Magneto together, you can really feel there's a lost friendship there. I'm not sure if it's the First Class trailers drilled in my mind or the subtlety of the actors, but I was quite touched when Erik asked Charles what he was looking for, Charles’ voice almost breaks and he says “I’m looking for hope”.

McKellen’s Magneto is great for what screen time he’s got, there’s a true contempt in his eyes when dealing with the likes of Senator Kelly. No doubt it’s a performance imbued by McKellen’s real life experiences, but to me that’s what makes him the definition of an anti-villain. His personal tragedies aren’t his fault but they’ve galvanized him with such a hateful exterior. I love that Singer never, ever flat out paints him as evil.

People complain that the X-Men series is more Wolverine and Friends, but how could they not be, Hugh Jackman’s Wolverine in the Bryan Singer X-Men films is quite simply, to me, the best cinematic superhero of the new era and right there with Chris Reeve’s Superman in all time rankings. He’s the love child of all of cinemas great anti heroes with a heart; he has the screen presence of The Man with No Name, the world weariness and exasperation of John McClane and the self awareness and swagger of Han Solo. I think this kind of character is what the big budget fantasy films that play it straight are missing, someone who knows this stuff is silly. Imagine Bruce Willis, as an army lieutenant with his trademark **** eating smirk in tow looking at Jake Sully and laughing about how he looks like a giant smurf, or if any of the Pirates sequels actually used Jack Sparrow like they did in the first film instead just making him prance around like a sausage nigel. That’s what Jackman adds to these films and I think it’s invaluable to have an audience surrogate genuinely disbelieve the more fantastical elements of the film, because when he does face the consequences of his disbelief, it just serves to suck the audience into the world of the film.

I don’t think there’s much more to be said about the themes of X-Men in its entire spectrum of media, they’ve been widely discussed and dissected. I will give props to Singer for being broader than others who’ve tackled the material. He really encompasses everything one could associate with depth in an X-Men film.

At this point I just deleted a whole section covering stuff like the Martin Luther King/Malcolm X parallels or Charles and Erik, how the isolation and fear the onset of their powers young mutants, Rogue in particular, at Xavier’s school feel is a metaphor for puberty, how mutants hiding their powers in public is an allusion to homosexuality and coming out of the closet. Really it was for my benefit than anyone else’s. I think primarily Singer’s films deal with what it is to be an individual. If you boil it all right down to the very core, it’s really all about you being yourself and staying true to yourself and not having to apologise for who you are or what you love. But for God sakes, you can be true to yourself in moderation, otherwise you’ll end up with a huge cheesy 80’s B action movie hangover.

Now if you’ll excuse me, I really need to go read a book.

:applaud

Now watch X2 soon.
 
They probably did that decision in case there's no sequel,I would've also love to see that But I understand why they did it!!!People would've been like"Ok so they were close friends But so what exactly happen before Part 1 of the trilogy?no movie about that part??"

IF there's a sequel then there could still be drama where they both wan't to be friends again&unite But there both torn apart even more by there obsession with there ways and new conflicts with new mutants on there sides!,Hopefully it's about 5-10 years after First Class and they introduce Toad&Creed/Sabertooth and how they join up with Mags.....Then teen-age Cyclops/Jean&Storm for Pro.X and that could all tie into X1!!

Still potential for a 3rd film to make it a prequel trilogy,Ending of that movie could be Beast leaving to find a potential cure for his appearance(X2)&perhaps politics(X3)with Stryker forming his own secret agency& developing research for"Project X"and then Moira leaving the CIA to become a geneticist with guidance from Xavier!!
 
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I agree. The only major problem I had with the movie is that the story of Charles and Eriks split could have easily covered 2 or 3 films. McAvoy and Fassbender have a good chemistry and it would have been interesting to see the highs and lows of that relashionship play out over a long period of time. I still enjoyed the film VERY much but I think you make a good point.

I think they can still explore their relationship as friends, just because it seems that everyone has chosen sides doesn't mean they will not be in contact. And, they could be brought together again to fight against some common enemy.
 
X-Men: First Class (3rd Time)
10/10
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Kung Fu Panda - 9/10

This could be one of my favorite animated movies now. I pretty much dug the hell out of this. Po is one of my favorites. The pacing is perfect with a great story to boot. Po's story is jsut the kind of story you would love. It has the right balance of heart and humor. The action is pretty awesome too. Oh, and the lighting. Wow! The best I've seen in any animated film yet.
 
They probably did that decision in case there's no sequel,I would've also love to see that But I understand why they did it!!!People would've been like"Ok so they were close friends But so what exactly happen before Part 1 of the trilogy?no movie about that part??"

IF there's a sequel then there could still be drama where they both wan't to be friends again&unite But there both torn apart even more by there obsession with there ways and new conflicts with new mutants on there sides!,Hopefully it's about 5-10 years after First Class and they introduce Toad&Creed/Sabertooth and how they join up with Mags.....Then teen-age Cyclops/Jean&Storm for Pro.X and that could all tie into X1!!

Still potential for a 3rd film to make it a prequel trilogy,Ending of that movie could be Beast leaving to find a potential cure for his appearance(X2)&perhaps politics(X3)with Stryker forming his own secret agency& developing research for"Project X"and then Moira leaving the CIA to become a geneticist with guidance from Xavier!!

They could to that but thats just one more issue they have to deal with if there is a sequel that they wouldn't have had to deal with before.

They already had a decent shot at a sequel simply because Fox will want to continue their deathgrip on the film rights. The films not going to be a monster hit but it will do decent enough numbers in the long run.

First Class was already part soft prequel/part soft reboot anyway


I think they can still explore their relationship as friends, just because it seems that everyone has chosen sides doesn't mean they will not be in contact. And, they could be brought together again to fight against some common enemy.

The relationship has changed though. They won't be the friends they were before the end of First Class. Sure they can reconcile but theres going to be a level of animosity there that wasn't there before. Magneto crossed a line that Xavier was hoping he wouldn't and they both laid their cards out on the table.
 
Whats really cool is that they were actually going for that. That mod 60's style, the cold war elements, and other things really contributed to that. It was set the same year I think Dr. No came out.

Vaughn's always said he wanted to do a Bond film. it would be really cool if he and Fassbender had a shot at a Bond film one day.
 
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