What's The Last Movie You Watched? XIV - - Part 15

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Saw TDKR.

Overall I liked it a lot, but I had gripes.

Spoilers... I black out the major ones, but there are still unblacked out minor ones. So you should scroll past this post if you haven't seen it.

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1) Really wanted to love Bane and before I saw it I expected people were overreacting about the voice thing. But it was hard to hear. Mainly because the audio of his voice seemed to be jacked up to impossibly high decibels. It would have been better if they had just left it alone, instead of overreacting. It was never the volume that was the problem.

I still thought he was an awesome character and Hardy is one of my favorite new actors, but was his Bane as memorable as Ledger's Joker or even Hathaway's Catwoman? Sadly no.

2) One moment seemed REALLY out of character when Bruce turned on Alfred after he found out he lied about Rachel's letter. I thought that was very petty of him after Alfred had raised him and saved his life multiple times. It didn't make sense that he was suddenly ready to cut him off. Maybe the most out-of-character moment for Bruce from the whole trilogy. This is directly related to my next gripe...

3) [BLACKOUT]No Alfred for the second half of the movie (save the very end).[/BLACKOUT]

4) How did Bruce [BLACKOUT]get back to Gotham after climbing out of the hole-prison in the middle of Whereveristan (Tibet?). Huge plot-hole.
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5) No mention of Joker? Not even to explain his absence after Bane [BLACKOUT]liberated the whole prison system in Gotham?[/BLACKOUT] I made my own explanation that he was in the SuperMAX federal prison outside of Gotham, since he was an extra-special case, but that wasn't really satisfying. I completely understand Nolan doesn't want to appear as if he's exploiting Ledger's performance and memory, but an off-the-cuff comment explaining a character's glaring absence is not the same as inserting unused footage of him in the film.

6) A brace cures Bruce's gimp leg? How come he didn't wear that brace years ago? [BLACKOUT]And is he wearing that brace when he's stuck inside Bane's hell prison?
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Overall my gripes are fairly minor (except the Bane audio, which I do think they messed up on).


There's too much stuff I enjoyed, but for a start....


1) Miranda Tate's [BLACKOUT]twist when she plunges a knife into Bats... I had suspected she was Talia, but I didn't see the twist coming in THAT way... that was a heart-dropping moment.[/BLACKOUT]

2) Bane [BLACKOUT]"breaking" (okay, not quite) Bat's back just like in the comic. It was eerie how much it looked like the panel in 'Knightfall.'[/BLACKOUT]

3) I think I'm one of the few people [BLACKOUT]who really dug the prison montage (despite the aforementioned huge plot-holes associated with it).[/BLACKOUT]

4) A scene I thought I'd hate, but ended up loving was the football field [BLACKOUT](and every major building and bridge) simultaneously blowing up. Then a public execution and announcement by Bane. That was awesome.[/BLACKOUT]

5) Anne Hathaway's Catwoman. Her Catwoman is to Pfieffer's what Ledger's Joker was to Nicholson's. Nuff said.

6) Anything with Alfred, Gordon and Fox. The triage of old kickass guys.

7) John Blake [BLACKOUT]and the reveal at the end that he's Robin (but it would have been better if they revealed his real name was Richard Grayson or Tim Drake).[/BLACKOUT]

8) Despite my gripes about the voice, I did enjoy Hardy's Bane. When I did hear his lines they were chilling. And he had a menacing presence whenever he appeared.

9) [BLACKOUT]Scarecrow and the show trials.[/BLACKOUT]

10) How Batman [BLACKOUT]ends.[/BLACKOUT]

11) [BLACKOUT]Ras al Ghul flashback.[/BLACKOUT]

12) Batplane.

Ton of other stuff.

Overall I'd give it an 8.5 out of 10. Not as good as TDK, but what comic movie is?

4) Come on man... just because they don't show something doesn't make it a plot hole. Think about it.
He's Batman. He found some amazing way to get back into Gotham. You might as well ask how Batman always disappears from Gordon so fast when he turns his back to him. Sometimes the most amazing stuff Batman does is when we don't know how he does it. That's the wonder of Bruce/Batman. And he even mentioned to Selina that he can get her out of Gotham. No doubt this was the same way he got back into Gotham. Dude's probably got resources too. I shouldn't be spelling this out. It's not hard to put together.
 
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The Dark Knight Rises

Second time seeing it and I'm not sure if I want to give it a 3.5/5 or a 4.
 
4) Come on man... just because they don't show something doesn't make it a plot hole. Think about it.
He's Batman. He found some amazing way to get back into Gotham. You might as well ask how Batman always disappears from Gordon so fast when he turns his back to him. Sometimes the most amazing stuff Batman does is when we don't know how he does it. That's the wonder of Bruce/Batman. And he even mentioned to Selina that he can get her out of Gotham. No doubt this was the same way he got back into Gotham. Dude's probably got resources too. I shouldn't be spelling this out. It's not hard to put together.

To summarize what you said: :batman:

"how the hell can Bruce Way...."

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4) Come on man... just because they don't show something doesn't make it a plot hole. Think about it.
He's Batman. He found some amazing way to get back into Gotham. You might as well ask how Batman always disappears from Gordon so fast when he turns his back to him. Sometimes the most amazing stuff Batman does is when we don't know how he does it. That's the wonder of Bruce/Batman. And he even mentioned to Selina that he can get her out of Gotham. No doubt this was the same way he got back into Gotham. Dude's probably got resources too. I shouldn't be spelling this out. It's not hard to put together.

I've noticed some of the complaints towards TDKR were never given when it came to the previous two films. Especially this one.

I remember someone *****ing that Batman was just happening to show up at the right time everywhere...

Um, yeah...just like he did in BB and TDK at times...as well as all the ****ing times in the comics, since you know...this is still a comic film.
 
TDKR
I thought it was fairly entertaining and don't regret seeing it though I was a bit disappointed overall...I won't get into detail/spoilers.
 
4) Come on man... just because they don't show something doesn't make it a plot hole. Think about it.
He's Batman. He found some amazing way to get back into Gotham. You might as well ask how Batman always disappears from Gordon so fast when he turns his back to him. Sometimes the most amazing stuff Batman does is when we don't know how he does it. That's the wonder of Bruce/Batman. And he even mentioned to Selina that he can get her out of Gotham. No doubt this was the same way he got back into Gotham. Dude's probably got resources too. I shouldn't be spelling this out. It's not hard to put together.
In addition to that,

It was established that Bane had control of Gotham for some time, and that Batman returned to Gotham with a couple days left on the bomb clock. I don't remember the numbers or anything, but it seemed like it took Bruce a few weeks to get back to the US; that's a reasonable amount of time.
 
I've noticed some of the complaints towards TDKR were never given when it came to the previous two films. Especially this one.

I remember someone *****ing that Batman was just happening to show up at the right time everywhere...

Um, yeah...just like he did in BB and TDK at times...as well as all the ****ing times in the comics, since you know...this is still a comic film.

Yeah, it sounds weird, but i feel like some people on this forum are just trying to find reasons to not like this.
 
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A long and draining but ultimately satisfying evening.
 
The Dark Knight Rise for the second time :yay:.

Went from 8/10 to 9/10, which for me is the best you can get really.
 
Jeff Who Lives at Home

A sweet little movie. One of those movies that I can't put into any category. Comedy? Drama? Who knows.
 
I've noticed some of the complaints towards TDKR were never given when it came to the previous two films. Especially this one.

I remember someone *****ing that Batman was just happening to show up at the right time everywhere...

Um, yeah...just like he did in BB and TDK at times...as well as all the ****ing times in the comics, since you know...this is still a comic film.

Exactly, the realism brigade have gone utterly ape**** regarding their reviews.

Yeah, it sounds weird, but i feel like some people on this forum are just trying to find reasons to not like this.

No you are right, as Figs points out things like, oh lets say the bulk of The Joker's plans in TDK, were swept under the rug with the logical acceptance that this is still a series of movies about a man fighting crime dressed in an armored bat costume with lots of fantasy high tech gear, this time all these conveniences are "t3h plot holz!"
 
Marvel's The Avengers
I still enjoy it more than I did Amazing Spider-Man
 
Everything Must Go

Will Ferrell can act both funny, over the top, but also get into dramatic roles. Good for him. He reminds me of Jim Carrey in that aspect.
 
The Dark Knight Rises - Second time, made me absolutley love this film, amazing.
 
Exactly, the realism brigade have gone utterly ape**** regarding their reviews.

Yeah, it's pretty depressing. The way I see it, Begins was Nolan wanting to get into Batman's head. The Dark Knight was Nolan wanting to make his sprawling crime epic a la Heat, The Godfather. With those accomplished (And then some), with TDKR, I think Nolan wanted to have some fun and geek out a bit.

Which, I think, that's what makes it my favourite Nolan Bat-film and my second favourite Bat film overall.
 
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