The Amazing Spider-Man When and how should Gwen Stacy die?

[Gwendolyn Stacy]

Thats the whole point of this thread lulz

Really? I thought you guys were plotting to assasinate me! I'm so relieved!
So what did Peter do in the comics after Gwen died? I mean after he went the Green Goblin.

 

[spideyguy16]

I think the vulture attacked mary jane, or the were wolf appeared.

 

[Gwendolyn Stacy]

I think the vulture attacked mary jane, or the were wolf appeared.

Thanks, but I was wondering if he mostly just sulked about it or not. I know he eventually started dating Mary Jane, but that's about it.

 

[spideyguy16]

For months he worried about going through something like that again. Like when the werewolf attacks, he attacks some lady and she reminds him of gwen. And when the vulture attacks mj, he was thinking the same thing. It just tormented him

 

[Gwendolyn Stacy]

For months he worried about going through something like that again. Like when the werewolf attacks, he attacks some lady and she reminds him of gwen. And when the vulture attacks mj, he was thinking the same thing. It just tormented him

I see. Thanks again.

 

[Godzilla2014]

Really? I thought you guys were plotting to assasinate me! I'm so relieved!
So what did Peter do in the comics after Gwen died? I mean after he went the Green Goblin.

There was also the Clone Saga, but that would take ages to tell you.

 

[spideyguy16]

In the raimi trilogies, mary jane never expressed how she was affected from being almost killed by the goblin. The only thing she said was "when i was up there, and i thought i was going to die..." Thats it.

I lik how it was portrayed in ultimate spidey where mj just finally explodes from bottling up all these emotions and how she has night terrors and stuff like that. It felt more real to me and didnt come off and a whiny female dog

 

[Troy_Parker]

In the raimi trilogies, mary jane never expressed how she was affected from being almost killed by the goblin. The only thing she said was "when i was up there, and i thought i was going to die..." Thats it.

I lik how it was portrayed in ultimate spidey where mj just finally explodes from bottling up all these emotions and how she has night terrors and stuff like that. It felt more real to me and didnt come off and a whiny female dog

 

[Godzilla2014]

In the raimi trilogies, mary jane never expressed how she was affected from being almost killed by the goblin. The only thing she said was "when i was up there, and i thought i was going to die..." Thats it.

I lik how it was portrayed in ultimate spidey where mj just finally explodes from bottling up all these emotions and how she has night terrors and stuff like that. It felt more real to me and didnt come off and a whiny female dog

Agreed.

 

[spideyguy16]

Mj in the movies was only horribly portrayed im sm3. The other ones were ok. But i want them to show how she is very modest and doesnt act all "omg my life sucks cause my parents fight and they hate me" because shes the cool girl and she is very grown up, she doesnt expect people to cry for her. In sm1 i think it was represented pretty good. Except that she ignored pete lol.
In ssm she is exactly how i described except we wernt shown her home life

 

[Troy_Parker]

MJ did seem like a whiny ***** in SM3.

I think she was okay in 1 and 2, but I hated her in 3.

 

[spideyguy16]

It was completely out of her character

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Really? I thought you guys were plotting to assasinate me! I'm so relieved!
So what did Peter do in the comics after Gwen died? I mean after he went the Green Goblin.

I think the vulture attacked mary jane, or the were wolf appeared.

well... he did ALOT after the death of gwen.. but RIGHT AFTER (for the next 20 issues) he..

-mourned the loss of Gwen
-blamed himself
-lashed out at MJ when she came over with condolences, mocking her usual carefree nature and tells her to leave.
-Mary Jane decides to stay and comfort Peter regardless.
-Norman's costume is mysteriously removed, and spider-man is believed to have murdered Norman Osborn
-JJJ and the bugle constantly calls spider-man a murderer for killing norman
-Spider-man is wanted by the police
-JJJ hires Luke Cage to try to bring spider-man in for his crime
-gwen's funeral
-John Jameson returns to earth, as Man-Wolf
-Harry acts mysterious, and rude, while morning the loss of his father
-mj dumps harry
-Peter begins to go back to class, but caves, and walks out
-fights the Kangaroo
-spider-mobile is in design stages
-John Jameson needs a blood transfusion after his Man-Wolf escapade
-Harry is revealed to be in possession of the Green Goblin costume,revealing that he took it after his fathers death
-Harry vows to become the new Green Goblin
-fights Vulture after Mary Jane is attacked on campus (she witnessed a murder committed by him outside her apartment)
-vulture turns out to be Clifton Shallot, an imposter of adrian toomes
-the jackal appears
-the jackal hires the Punisher to kill spider-man
-the punisher realizes the jackal has been manipulating him and vows vengeance on the jackal
-fights hammerhead
-spider-mobile makes first appearance
-Doc Ock returns from prison
-Mj tries to get a kiss from peter under the mistletoe at Ned Leeds x-mas party
-Peter is not yet ready for a relationship, and storms off
-Doc Ock tries to marry Aunt May
-Spider-man vs Hammer Head vs Doc Ock
-Molten Man attacks, Ned Leeds is stuck in the middle
-Tarantula makes his first appearance
-Harry finds out that Peter is Spider-man
-Spider-man vs Tarantula vs Punisher
-Harry finds peter's spider-man costume, further proving his secret
-Harry vows to seek revenge on peter/spider-man
-spidey teams up with Shang-Chi
-harry becomes the green goblin
-mj and peter begin dating
-harry blows up peter and his apartment, sending mj to the hospital
-this causes peter to relive gwen's death
-peter quits the bugle
-spidey fights mindworm
-spidey fight's the grizzly for the first time
-peter moves into a new apartment
-the grizzly is working for the jackal
-peter meets his new neighbor, glory grant
-spidey vs grizzly vs jackal
-mj gets out of hospital
-peter has emerging feelings for mj
-Mysterio II (Dan Berkhart) makes his first appearance
-Betty Brant and Ned Leeds announce there engagement
-Spidey defeats Mysterio II
-Mysterio II reveals that JJJ hired him

 

[spideyguy16]

I was right about the were wolf and vulture thing !

 

[spideyboy_1111]

I was right about the were wolf and vulture thing !

except man-wolf isn't really a "were wolf" (as much as morbius isn't really a vampire) ... but yeah

 

[spideyguy16]

Aw man i knew it sounded funny lol

 

[Ultra Lantern]

Exactly like the comics in movie #2.

 

[Boy Scout]

I want it to happen in the third film, with the effects of her death being explored in the fourth. I don't care who kills her.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

I still think she's going to die towards the end of #2 or at some point in #3.

 

[AnneFan]

There isn't a need for it. Peter's life with MJ was already covered.


Besides, killing her in the third film would be groundbreaking. About as groundbreaking as the moment was in the comic book. No one in the GA would see it coming. Killing the main love interest that we've known for 3 films (6 or so years) in the final scenes of the final movie? It would shake things up, and set this franchise apart from all others.

Man up and do it, Webb and co.

I'm with you here. MJ could be introduced perhaps, but have the beautiful Emma Stone as this series' main female lead. As you say his life with MJ was covered with Raimi. Get a connection with Gwen over the course of three films, where her eventual death is that much more painful of an event.

 

[Scarlet Spider]

I'm with you here. MJ could be introduced perhaps, but have the beautiful Emma Stone as this series' main female lead. As you say his life with MJ was covered with Raimi. Get a connection with Gwen over the course of three films, where her eventual death is that much more painful of an event.

All valid points.

The thing is, even though all the previous films did revolve around MJ and her relationship with Peter, I really, really hope that they'll re-introduce MJ and do her right this time. She's such a wonderful and charismatic character in the comics and the previous film version we got was for the most part, a completely different person.

They did the right thing starting with Gwen and they lucked out by landing Emma Stone, one of the most talented and sought after young talents currently in Hollywood.

If Gwen were to remain the female lead throughout a potential trilogy, I would be fine with it, as long as MJ is brought in as a prominent supporting character for the 2nd/3rd films and we get a proper portrayal.

 

[Oscorp]

I'm with you here. MJ could be introduced perhaps, but have the beautiful Emma Stone as this series' main female lead. As you say his life with MJ was covered with Raimi. Get a connection with Gwen over the course of three films, where her eventual death is that much more painful of an event.

Kirsten Dunst's character only resembled MJ in the comics in name and hair color. So no, we haven't gotten Peter's life with MJ covered with Raimi at all.

 

[AnneFan]

You can call her 'in name only' if you want, but for all intents and purposes MJ was the main female lead in the Raimi trilogy. I think the reboot should shift the focus.

 

[Spiderman6592]

Oscorp, the fact of the matter is, as badly as MJ was represented, we got a character that was a love interest that was named Mary Jane. We don't need to see her again as a love interest in this franchise. Here is what should go down.

TASM

Peter and Gwen establish their relationship and fall in love. Gwen finds out Peter is Spider-Man and does all she can to help but her world is shattered when she finds out her father has died. Peter doesn't show up to the funeral because he feels guilty, but watches from a distance as Spider-Man (scene from the trailer where Gwen is looking up into the rainy sky). The day after, and one of the last scenes of the film is when Gwen goes to Peter's house and slaps him. She says that the one person she needed the most wasn't there. Peter tries to explain but she doesn't want to hear it. She leaves him on his steps as we fade into the final monologue with Peter swinging.

TASM 2

Peter tries desperately to win Gwen back but struggles. Gwen will obviously be distraught, but she shouldn't be how MJ was in SM3. Not whiney or mean, just extremely sad and disappointed. Mary Jane will be introduced as a friend to Peter and maybe Harry Osborn's love interest. Those 3 will hang out together while Peter works on his relationship with Gwen. Eventually she accepts Peter back and the film ends in a happily ever after type mood.

TASM 3

Peter and Gwen are perfect together in every sense of the word. They're happy and in love and beginning to talk about marriage. The Green Goblin comes into play and Norman through his son Harry finds out about Peter Parker. He finds out that Peter was bit in his lab (or has known all along, which I'd prefer) and is working desperately to try and replicate the results without the spider powers side effect. He succeeds but with psychological side effects. He knows Gwen and Peter are romantically involved and he kidnaps her and she dies in the same way that she does in the comics about 3/4 of the way through the film. The last 1/4 of the film is dedicated to Peter exacting revenge on the Goblin/Norman.



There's no other way this trilogy should go down.

 

[Oscorp]

You can call her 'in name only' if you want, but for all intents and purposes MJ was the main female lead in the Raimi trilogy. I think the reboot should shift the focus.

I agree that Gwen should be the main focus. But saying that Raimi has already covered Peter's relationship with MJ is just wrong imo. We have yet to see the kind of relationship Peter and MJ had in the comics.