The Amazing Spider-Man When and how should Gwen Stacy die?

When and how should Gwen Stacy die?

  • Exactly like the comics in movie 2

  • Exactly like the comics in movie 3

  • Different from the comics in movie 2

  • Different from the comics in movie 3

  • Never, she shouldn't die

  • Exactly like the comics in movie 2

  • Exactly like the comics in movie 3

  • Different from the comics in movie 2

  • Different from the comics in movie 3

  • Never, she shouldn't die


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I think Mysterio would work better than Kraven. He could give Parker hallucinations and illusions of all the people he thinks he let down.

Jeebus! That is one heckuva awesome idea. I'd pay to see that movie. WOuld you ideally have Mysterio's classic fishbowl look or something else? also who would play him? It'd just be voice over right?
 
Jeebus! That is one heckuva awesome idea. I'd pay to see that movie. WOuld you ideally have Mysterio's classic fishbowl look or something else? also who would play him? It'd just be voice over right?
Thanks. I don't really know who I would want to play him, but for your question about the fish bowl, I think he looks pretty awesome in this pic:
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It would be pretty cool and intimidating if that face thing on his bowl would always be facing everyone who looks at him by using technology or illusions or mist or whatever.
 
^That Lizard looks still so much better than what we got in this move.
 
Yeah and that Green Goblin is a million times better than SM1's. :o
 
Reading thread makes me think a lot of people here don't understand what makes movies good, especially comic book adaptations! Haha so many awful ideas!
 
Reading thread makes me think a lot of people here don't understand what makes movies good, especially comic book adaptations! Haha so many awful ideas!

So who understands? You?

I await your ideas and story suggestions with baited breath.
 
Everyone, in a way, think's their opinion is fact. Some more so than others...
 
I'm tempted to say that they should do something different than the comics, but only because it would feel too similar to the first Raimi film, where MJ basically played the role of Gwen.

But at the same time, I don't know of any good way to both kill her and have Peter somewhat blame himself for her death in the same way as the comics. But I definitely think she should die in the second film.
 
..... The scene with MJ and goblin was hardly anything like gwens story
 
..... The scene with MJ and goblin was hardly anything like gwens story
In both cases, the Goblin kidnaps Spidey's loved one and takes them to the top of the bridge and throws them off. The only difference is that MJ lives because he jumps after, but Gwen dies because of the whiplash from the webbing.
 
In both cases, the Goblin kidnaps Spidey's loved one and takes them to the top of the bridge and throws them off. The only difference is that MJ lives because he jumps after, but Gwen dies because of the whiplash from the webbing.

No. The big huge differences are that the goblin made spidey have to choose. And she didn't die. He learned absolutely nothing from the situation and it really had no impact on his journey
 
I'd rather stay away from the bridge, just to help separate it from the first movie. All that matters is that it needs to seem like Spider-Man is partially responsible for Gwen's death.
 
No. The big huge differences are that the goblin made spidey have to choose. And she didn't die. He learned absolutely nothing from the situation and it really had no impact on his journey
I'm talking more about a visual standpoint, not a character one. Raimi pretty much used parts from the comic as his inspiration for those scenes, except he did it with MJ and kept her alive. He even used the Goblin's "death" as the inspiration for Norman's death in the film.

If they follow the comics, I think the average movie-goer is going to feel like they've already seen it before.
 
And from a visual standpoint it can be done differently than Raimi did... There's many bridges in new york, and it should be during the day. And it's a cheap move by goblin.... Not a coup de ta. A stand off, or a fight.

The fact it's a bridge and someone is thrown off is pretty stupid to complain about. Might as well complain over all of spiders science based villains using science....

If anything, using a bridge again will make the general audience e assume more so than ever that spidey will save her.
 
I'm talking more about a visual standpoint, not a character one. Raimi pretty much used parts from the comic as his inspiration for those scenes, except he did it with MJ and kept her alive. He even used the Goblin's "death" as the inspiration for Norman's death in the film.

If they follow the comics, I think the average movie-goer is going to feel like they've already seen it before.
But think about it, that would get the greatest reactions from the audience and it could have a greater impact on some people.
Movie-goer - "Ugh. Goblin and the bridge. Like I didn't already see this exact scene 12 years ago. Stupid rehash is stupi-- WHAT THE ****! She died!"
 
I want it to happen in the third. Introduce MJ in the final scenes of TASM3 similar to how Autumn is introduced in (500) Days of Summer at the end. I think it'd be a very neat and happy ending.

Maybe a "6 months later" thing happens and it cuts to Peter leaving his house. As he's leaving he sees MJ leave her house next door and they break into conversation as the film fades to black.
No, no, a million times no. If Gwen's gonna die, which she shouldn't, as it's the sexist mysoginistic women in refrigerators trope at full force, BUT, if she dies, then she should die FOR A REASON, which should be to make Peter realize that he can't be with ANY WOMAN while he's Spider-Man, so NO MJ, NO "happy ending", NO HOPE AT ALL.

Gwen dies in the middle of the movie, Peter tracks down the Goblin, they fight, epic battle, Peter beats Goblin to a bloody pulp, Goblin dies, through Peter's hands, or through the Goblin's own, i.e. glider, FINAL SCENE is in ONE SHOT: Peter walks up to Gwen's body, drops to his knees, and just cradles her in his arms and cries, slowly widen the shot, pulling back, keeping Peter cradling Gwen in the center throughout it all, pull back seeing the bridge, seeing an ambulance and police cars pull up, we know they're too late, MAYBE a monologue from Peter, but not really needed, the final shot should say it all, then FADE TO BLACK, with the last thing being consumed by the darkness being Peter and Gwen, and then...

THE END.

It's perfectly, heartbreakingly beautiful.
 
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But think about it, that would get the greatest reactions from the audience and it could have a greater impact on some people.
Movie-goer - "Ugh. Goblin and the bridge. Like I didn't already see this exact scene 12 years ago. Stupid rehash is stupi-- WHAT THE ****! She died!"
Yeah except you're choosing to ignore one little detail, that being THE INTERNET. Half the audience most likely googled Gwen Stacy, and now know about the whole thing. There's no REAL reason to do it.
 
Yeah except you're choosing to ignore one little detail, that being THE INTERNET. Half the audience most likely googled Gwen Stacy, and now know about the whole thing. There's no REAL reason to do it.
Really? Cuz I asked all my cousins who saw it and all my friends who saw it and asked them if they knew who Gwen Stacy is and they all didn't know who she was and wondered why she was in it and where Mary Jane went. Also, there is a reason to do it. It is one of the best Spider-man stories and it would be squandered potential if she is still alive by the end of the trilogy. It changed Peter's life forever and I would like to see his life after her death.
 
Majority of people don't look up characters they see in movies. We do it all the time because that's our interest
 
Really? Cuz I asked all my cousins who saw it and all my friends who saw it and asked them if they knew who Gwen Stacy is and they all didn't know who she was and wondered why she was in it and where Mary Jane went. Also, there is a reason to do it. It is one of the best Spider-man stories and it would be squandered potential if she is still alive by the end of the trilogy. It changed Peter's life forever and I would like to see his life after her death.
Well, everyone I know has either looked her up or asked me. And no, I mean, there's no purpose. What does killing Gwen accomplish? What's the point other than so comic book geeks can get their jolly's from it? It's a disgustingly sexist trope that needs to be put to an end NOW. A woman is not a tool to be used so a man can walk away 'wiser.' So, as I said in my 1st post, unless Peter's big lesson is that he must be alone and not be a selfish dick putting other women in danger, her death shouldn't, and doesn't need to, happen.
 
Well, everyone I know has either looked her up or asked me. And no, I mean, there's no purpose. What does killing Gwen accomplish? What's the point other than so comic book geeks can get their jolly's from it? It's a disgustingly sexist trope that needs to be put to an end NOW. A woman is not a tool to be used so a man can walk away 'wiser.' So, as I said in my 1st post, unless Peter's big lesson is that he must be alone and not be a selfish dick putting other women in danger, her death shouldn't, and doesn't need to, happen.
i don't think you truly understand the story and what it represented. It changed the comic industry... For all comics it was the loss of innocents. And is easily one of the most important stories in spideys mythos as well as the impact it had on the entire comic industry......ending the silverage
 
Well, everyone I know has either looked her up or asked me. And no, I mean, there's no purpose. What does killing Gwen accomplish? What's the point other than so comic book geeks can get their jolly's from it? It's a disgustingly sexist trope that needs to be put to an end NOW. A woman is not a tool to be used so a man can walk away 'wiser.' So, as I said in my 1st post, unless Peter's big lesson is that he must be alone and not be a selfish dick putting other women in danger, her death shouldn't, and doesn't need to, happen.
If Gwen is used as a tool to make Peter wiser then so was Ben. I guess that had no purpose as well because they made Ben into a tool. And no, it is not sexist at all. no more sexist than having MJ be the damsel in distress each time in the previous trilogy
 
If Gwen is used as a tool to make Peter wiser then so was Ben. I guess that had no purpose as well because they made Ben into a tool. And no, it is not sexist at all. no more sexist than having MJ be the damsel in distress each time in the previous trilogy
They're both mysoginistic. One far more so than the other. With, ya know, the death and all. Ben is an origin story death. Basic origins can't be changed. Batman's parents always die, just like Superman's always sent from the near-destruction planet of Krypton, and just like Uncle Ben always dies. The very nature of the origin story is to be a tool to fascilitate the hero's journey. It's often tragic, but without it, there's no hero and thus, no journey. Gwen does not fall into that category.
 
They're both mysoginistic. One far more so than the other.
both of them really have nothing to do with the fact that MJ/Gwen is a girl. The point of both of them id that it is someone close to Peter is in danger, which raises the stakes and makes it that much more tragic if he fails.
Ben is an origin story death. Basic origins can't be changed. Batman's parents always die, just like Superman's always sent from the near-destruction planet of Krypton, and just like Uncle Ben always dies. The very nature of the origin story is to be a tool to fascilitate the hero's journey. It's often tragic, but without it, there's no hero and thus, no journey. Gwen does not fall into that category.
The Night Gwen Stacy Died is debatably the most important story of Spider-man outside of the origin story. Also, Gwen's death is arguably the most important death in Spider-man comics second only to Uncle Ben's death. Gwen's death is tragic and it makes Peter more responsible. Captain Stacy told Peter to stay away from her, but because he is young and in love he will be irresponsible he will still see her somewhat and she will be targeted by GG. If she dies, Peter will become more responsible and probably keep his secret identity more of a secret. Pretty much all that is speculation but you get the point. If done right, Gwen's death can serve a huge purpose in the trilogy.
 
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