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TDK was a good film but it was overrated, it's not like it was 100% flawless and I thought Batman Begins was a better film and Batman film.
You might say "Iron Man better film than The Dark Knight" that I can understand because are comic book movies with same genre. It's funny when people bring up non-comic book films saying they are better than comic book movies if you don't like them why are you here then?
As for BB & TDK I love them and have flaws etc but to say TDK it's overrated because so many people like it it's stupid reason not to like it.
^Disliking something because you think that it is overrated is a stupid reason to dislike it. But I'm sure there are actually people who dislike TDK because they just disliked it.
However, as I stated, I did not dislike it. I just dislike the fans. The annoying fans brought on this stupid backlash that I'm not apart of. Backlashes often don't make sense but I'm tempted to say that this one did.
To me it wasn't about TDK fans not admitting flaws, if you honestly think that it's the greatest movie ever congrats, it's about alot of TDK fans, at the time, bashing anybody who didn't find the movie to be a flawless Masterpeice.
Personally I say f**k you to those people. But the sane fans are fine with me.
P.S.
The other trolling fans can go fry in hell for all I care.
P.S.S.
I hate you trolling f**kers guts. You made the Batman boards the most unfun boards on Hype for a while. May you get run over by a truck you annoying lifeless nerds...
Too much?
Personally I say f**k you to those people. But the sane fans are fine with me.
P.S.
The other trolling fans can go fry in hell for all I care.
P.S.S.
I hate you trolling f**kers guts. You made the Batman boards the most unfun boards on Hype for a while. May you get run over by a truck you annoying lifeless nerds...
Too much?
I agree.
The net provides a temptation to find out about a film before seeing it. And if it's a film that is really anticipated, the temptation can be too much.
Not at all. Once they announce a third Batman film whether it's with Nolan or not, or more importantly, when it goes into production I think the Batman boards are going to be a madhouse again.
Over the years, the people who edit movie trailers(or maybe it's movie studios to blame) throw in the best scenes and give too much away. It's been pissing me off for quite a few years and I think I'm going to try to see more films(especially comic films)without hearing or knowing much about it. It's going to be hard as hell but I think for a 3rd Batman film in this series, I might stay away from the Bat boards altogether.
I kind of miss the days before the internet where everyone wasn't linked up and breaking news hit everywhere in a matter of seconds. I just think it would be fun to go into a film knowing little to nothing like you did when you were a child.
I spoiled the Gordon and ferry subplot and other details by accident and basically sucked all the suspense out of the movie. I would love to avoid the batboards before B3 but I know I'll be too weak.
I agree.
The net provides a temptation to find out about a film before seeing it. And if it's a film that is really anticipated, the temptation can be too much.
Not at all. Once they announce a third Batman film whether it's with Nolan or not, or more importantly, when it goes into production I think the Batman boards are going to be a madhouse again.
Over the years, the people who edit movie trailers(or maybe it's movie studios to blame) throw in the best scenes and give too much away. It's been pissing me off for quite a few years and I think I'm going to try to see more films(especially comic films)without hearing or knowing much about it. It's going to be hard as hell but I think for a 3rd Batman film in this series, I might stay away from the Bat boards altogether.
I kind of miss the days before the internet where everyone wasn't linked up and breaking news hit everywhere in a matter of seconds. I just think it would be fun to go into a film knowing little to nothing like you did when you were a child.
At the same time, the anticipation can make the experience better. Not necessarily knowing the spoilers, but having something like the ARG to make you excited about the movie. Of course, it also helped that TDK was so good to begin with. It would been so disappointing if we had spent 1.5 years following the pre-story and TDK turned out to be another Phantom Menace.Over the years, the people who edit movie trailers(or maybe it's movie studios to blame) throw in the best scenes and give too much away. It's been pissing me off for quite a few years and I think I'm going to try to see more films(especially comic films)without hearing or knowing much about it. It's going to be hard as hell but I think for a 3rd Batman film in this series, I might stay away from the Bat boards altogether.
I kind of miss the days before the internet where everyone wasn't linked up and breaking news hit everywhere in a matter of seconds. I just think it would be fun to go into a film knowing little to nothing like you did when you were a child.
Yeah, I think that one Italian site basically spoiled the entire movie early in 2008, but they summarized it so crudely that it was like, "Okay, whatever." Going into the film was still a surprise for me because I knew all these spoilery bits, but I didn't know how they fit together.I had heard about the ferry scene early as well but only heard 'rumours' about the Gordon scene at the funeral procession. I think I was enjoying the movie so much I didn't think about them while watching to where it didn't exactly ruin anything for me.
Over the years, the people who edit movie trailers(or maybe it's movie studios to blame) throw in the best scenes and give too much away. It's been pissing me off for quite a few years and I think I'm going to try to see more films(especially comic films)without hearing or knowing much about it.
Well, all of Nolan's movies are also very carefully constructed. To get the real power of his films, you have to watch them all the way through at once. Even I skip around LOTR (coughtheFrodoscenes) and don't feel like I've missed anything. Well, for Memento and Prestige, the timeline is out of order so you really do have to watch them all the way through, but I've always been amazed at how you can really feel where in TDK that Gotham is completely unraveling, and you don't get that by watching it in parts.Chris Nolan is particularly sensitive to this trend and makes sure that all of the best surprises are kept out of the trailers and advertising. You'll notice that almost all of the footage from the trailers comes from the first third or so of the movie - so unless they were reading spy reports, fans still had no idea what to expect for the last two thirds.
We weren't even sure how Two-Face was transformed until the movie came out!
Yeah, we got bits and pieces, but we didn't know how they fit. The clip of Gordon smashing the batsignal was featured from the very beginning of the marketing (all the trailers, WW footage, IMAX prologue) but we didn't know where it would play in.^ Yes, we did. Harvey's face being soaked in gasoline was in the first theatrical trailer. People just weren't sure if that was the actual place of the scarring as we had all assumed it'd take place in a courthouse.
Actually, there was a TON of stuff that was spoiled from the movie trailers. There was a trailer that showed Batman was behind The Joker in the interrogation room, we saw the gasoline and the drums having explosive device where Harvey fell on the ground, and seeing as how we never saw the scene where Gordon smashes the Bat-signal, gave away that he never really died...like that wasn't obvious as it is.Chris Nolan is particularly sensitive to this trend and makes sure that all of the best surprises are kept out of the trailers and advertising. You'll notice that almost all of the footage from the trailers comes from the first third or so of the movie - so unless they were reading spy reports, fans still had no idea what to expect for the last two thirds.
We weren't even sure how Two-Face was transformed until the movie came out!
Actually, there was a TON of stuff that was spoiled from the movie trailers. There was a trailer that showed Batman was behind The Joker in the interrogation room, we saw the gasoline and the drums having explosive device where Harvey fell on the ground, and seeing as how we never saw the scene where Gordon smashes the Bat-signal, gave away that he never really died...like that wasn't obvious as it is.
Chris Nolan is particularly sensitive to this trend and makes sure that all of the best surprises are kept out of the trailers and advertising. You'll notice that almost all of the footage from the trailers comes from the first third or so of the movie - so unless they were reading spy reports, fans still had no idea what to expect for the last two thirds.
We weren't even sure how Two-Face was transformed until the movie came out!
The thing I never understood, was why Batman even took the blame? He didn't kill Two-Face on purpose, he was saving Gordons son, for crying out loud. They both fell over, it was just Batman who survived the fall. I understand that they wanted to save Dent's integrity, and show Gotham that there can be a "real" hero in Gotham besides Batman, but it just screws up everything. Batman told Gordon to "call it in". Why? That's the dumbest thing I have ever heard! If Gordon is going to lie about that, then why not just say Two-Face fell over the side, and Batman was never there. Now, Batman's a villain to the cops, because he made Gordon "turn him in". In my eyes, The Joker still won, and it doesn't explain that some cops survived, and know about Dent's true side(Two-Face). IMO, the ending is just a mess....
Name ten films in the past ten years that are BETTER then TDK.
The Godfather, Scarface, Die Hard and Predator were more than 10 years ago.If I were Batman, I would not take the blame for the murders that Two-Face committed and I would not think of quitting the Batman persona.
The Lord of the Rings Trilogy
The Godfather
The Departed
Scarface
Die Hard
Predator
Pulp Fiction
Batman Begins
Batman: Mask of Phantasm
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