Which Green Lantern should be used? - Part 2

[Rorschach2012]

Yes, you misunderstood the statement to apply to something other than the subject we were talking about. But you didn't misunderstand it then, because you had zero problem with the mention of the Trinity's diversity. So since the post, you developed a misunderstanding of it. And then lectured me about your misunderstanding, because you love me, I assume.



That's a fine opinion, I suppose. For me, large universes where a bunch of relatively unimportant women and POCs are considered a good representation of society just seems so unrealistic.

I think I understood you just fine.


But yes, a John Stewart/Hal Jordan team up movie is a much better idea than a movie that would solely focus on John

 

[DrCosmic]

I think I understood you just fine.

But yes, a John Stewart/Hal Jordan team up movie is a much better idea than a movie that would solely focus on John

Could be, depends how they approach it. There are great buddy movies and there are bad ones. One challenge is that John and Hal aren't actually so night and day. They have a crucial difference in the way they solve problems, but unless the film revolves around that, their relationship at the heart of the film will fall flat, because otherwise, they're two military guys with power rings trying to save the universe because they want to do the right thing.

A buddy film also relies on the characters have deficiencies that they need the other character to make up. I don't think the modern Hal can do that, even though a racially charged version of this is at the heart of the original Hal-John dynamic. Hal was blind, John was stubborn. At this point, it'll probably just be reduced to John rescuing Hal at some time or other and Hal teaching John to let go or some other typical buddy cop stuff, and the appeal of the film will rely on the special effects instead of the characters, and that's not a road walked well often, as GL2011 showed us.

Or maybe they'll knock it out of the park. If so, they probably will have the awareness not to view either character as unable to stand on their own. That's usually a really bad way to start writing a story that relies on the leads being equals, by viewing them as fundamentally unequal.

 

[Boy Scout]

Assuming they're both relatively new to the Corps, I could see John teaching Hal to not be so arrogant and take his job more seriously and Hal teaching John to lighten up and not view everything through the lens of a soldier.

 

[BatmanVSuperman]

I've decided.
Antoine Fuqua to direct a John Stewart Green Lantern film would be freaking awesome. Get on board...!

 

[Lantern Venom]

The source material is crucial though. A Hal Jordan movie series writes itself..

With Barry now confirmed for the cinematic universe, it's a done deal that the
GL will be Hal. Other Lanterns and Flashes might come later, but the bromance will be first.

 

[BatmanVSuperman]

With Barry now confirmed for the cinematic universe, it's a done deal that the
GL will be Hal. Other Lanterns and Flashes might come later, but the bromance will be first.

Barry was not confirmed. His name appeared in the HR report as it actually lead into information on the CW Flash show. It has not been confirmed which Flash he is playing.

 

[cleverusername8]

Barry was not confirmed. His name appeared in the HR report as it actually lead into information on the CW Flash show. It has not been confirmed which Flash he is playing.

There is substantially more evidence pointing towards the Flash being Barry and the Lantern being Hal than anything else.

Look at the lineup. Cyborg is being included while Martian Manhunter is not. If that's not enough of a giveaway, Aquaman is in instead of Hawkgirl. All of the people laying claim to the idea that they're trying to mirror the early 2000's Justice League cartoon in the new lineup are mistaken.

If it's the New 52 lineup, then it's going to be Hal Jordan slinging the ring and Barry Allen kicking up dust in the yellow boots. Plain and simple.

Exhibit B... the comics. Look at who's in the forefront of the GL and Flash series respectively. Hal has been the central Lantern and Barry has been the central Flash since Final Crisis. Why would DC suddenly go back on that in the movie universe that they're building?

Lastly, the current portrayal of Wally is a stark contrast from what Ezra Miller tends to play. Sure, he's played some roles as troubled youth, but not in the same way that New 52 Wally is. I don't see their personalities syncing up very well either.

I'm positive that it's going to be Barry and Hal.

 

[Rorschach2012]

With Barry now confirmed for the cinematic universe, it's a done deal that the
GL will be Hal. Other Lanterns and Flashes might come later, but the bromance will be first.

Yep yep I totally agree.


I don't think people understand that doing Barry without Hal just doesn't make sense.

I'm convinced that a majority of people on here aren't even familiar with the comics, just the animated stuff. That'd explain all the "Wally for JL Flash!" and "John for JL Green Lantern!" suggestions.

Both of those are great characters, but it's very clear to me that those characters are supposed to be introduced after Hal and Barry have been established.

Barry was not confirmed. His name appeared in the HR report as it actually lead into information on the CW Flash show. It has not been confirmed which Flash he is playing.

Ezra Miller is 100% playing Barry.
I will be shocked if he isn't Barry. If they wanted him for Wally, I think they would've gone with a black guy.

 

[BatmanVSuperman]

I'm just pointing out that it was not confirmed he is playing Barry. That is who most people speculate the version will be though.

 

[Rorschach2012]

I'm just pointing out that it was not confirmed he is playing Barry. That is who most people speculate the version will be though.

there's a 99.9% chance that Ezra is Barry.

They're doing the New 52 lineup. Hal is the last one. I'll be seriously surprised if it isn't Hal.

DC comics produces their own web series. And in that DC comics produced web series, they confirmed that a GL film was in the works, and during that confirmation, they showed a picture of Hal. ONLY Hal.

If it was John that was going to be the lead, they'd make an effort to make him the lead of the comics and the GL in any animated appearances.


It's going to be Hal, i'm just waiting for the casting announcement

 

[LEVITIKUZ]

I think Ray may have confirmed John is GL at least to his knowledge.

"They could have went with the traditional version that included Martian Man or Hawk Girl as well. "

Ray said he knew of Cyborg through the Teen Titans cartoon so he probably knows the JL through the cartoon since J'onn and Hawkgirl were OG members.

Link: http://www.mediabee715.com/411639518/2253270/posting/my-interview-with-justice-league-s-new-hero

 

[FeedOnATreeFrog]

"They could have went with the traditional version that included Martian Man or Hawk Girl as well. "

Not mentioning John Stewart's absence =/= confirming John Stewart.

 

[antonydelfini]

Ray may have confirmed John Stewart? I dont see that at all. I think he just said they didnt go the traditional version because his only exposure to JL is through the animated series. The movie is definitely going for the New 52 line-up that's why Cyborg is in there. The DC characters getting solo movies are characters Geoff Johns handled extensively in the comics, which leads me to believe Hal and Barry will be GL and Flash. Also, for the past few years, Barry and Hal has been the main Flash and GL in all forms of media.

 

[The Guard]

To be fair, Geoff Johns has handled pretty much all of the heavy hitters in the DCU at one point or another. I don't think it's only about Johns' preferences.

 

[antonydelfini]

To be fair, Geoff Johns has handled pretty much all of the heavy hitters in the DCU at one point or another. I don't think it's only about Johns' preferences.

I should have clarified: the characters seem to be the ones Johns handled extensively in the New 52 comics. The line-up really seems to be New 52-ish, even the rumored Deathstroke, Deadshot, Manta, Harley line-up of Suicide Squad.

 

[FeedOnATreeFrog]

If Captain Marvel's an origin story, I wonder if people will be making the comparisons to GL2011 ("Marvel did GL better than DC").

I just read up on Carol Danvers' backstory. She seems like Hal Jordan with Carol Ferris's name; Cocky fighter pilot becomes cosmic superhero and all.

(Though if nobody complains about the similarities between Spider-Man and Superman (kid gets the ability to soar through the air and punch things real hard, wears a red and blue costume, primarily protects a single metropolitan city, works at a paper called the Daily Something where the boss yells a lot, alter ego is a nerdy type, is named "S__erman), then Hal should be fine, hopefully.)

 

[Jason Kane]

Ray may have confirmed John Stewart? I dont see that at all. I think he just said they didnt go the traditional version because his only exposure to JL is through the animated series. The movie is definitely going for the New 52 line-up that's why Cyborg is in there. The DC characters getting solo movies are characters Geoff Johns handled extensively in the comics, which leads me to believe Hal and Barry will be GL and Flash. Also, for the past few years, Barry and Hal has been the main Flash and GL in all forms of media.

That's my thinking, too. Not only will they go for just the New 52 JL line-up but it does appear that DCE's really pushing to make the New 52 relevant on fil, hence not only Cyborg being there and Barry (and Hal) but also BVS chosing the whole Zeua demigod origin for Wonder Woman.

 

[Rorschach2012]

I think Ray may have confirmed John is GL at least to his knowledge.

"They could have went with the traditional version that included Martian Man or Hawk Girl as well. "

Ray said he knew of Cyborg through the Teen Titans cartoon so he probably knows the JL through the cartoon since J'onn and Hawkgirl were OG members.

Link: http://www.mediabee715.com/411639518/2253270/posting/my-interview-with-justice-league-s-new-hero

Nah, i don't think he was saying that at all.

"They could have went with the traditional version that included Martian Man or Hawk Girl as well. "

I take that as an indication that they won't be going with the version from the animated series. Meaning no John Stewart. Fisher brings up the New 52 in the interview. I think that's our lineup.

I think what he's saying is that they could have gone with the lineup in the animated series, but they went with something different.


IMO, all signs have been pointing to Hal. All WB/DC's efforts over the past 8 years have gone to establishing Hal as the one true Green Lantern.

We have the New 52 lineup in the movies already (minus one member).

 

[Rorschach2012]

We gotta forum now

 

[cleverusername8]

I think Ray may have confirmed John is GL at least to his knowledge.

"They could have went with the traditional version that included Martian Man or Hawk Girl as well. "

Ray said he knew of Cyborg through the Teen Titans cartoon so he probably knows the JL through the cartoon since J'onn and Hawkgirl were OG members.

Link: http://www.mediabee715.com/411639518/2253270/posting/my-interview-with-justice-league-s-new-hero

The dude doesn't even know Martian Manhunter's proper name. I highly doubt he'd recognize the name 'John Stewart' in any talks and for that reason omit him from the list of characters who are not appearing. Like most people who only know the cartoons, the names 'Green Lantern' and 'Flash' are only taken at face value. The actual person under the mask or wearing the ring is lost on them.

All he knows is that there will be a 'Green Lantern' on the team. He's not making any distinction as to which one.

 

[HighFivingMF]

Yyyyyeeeeaaaahhhhhh. My boy got his own section back!

 

[Rorschach2012]

It's obnoxious here.

Obnoxious? Get used to that. It's brainchild, that's his mo.

This guy admittedly knows close to nothing about GL, dislikes Sinestro, and vehemently hates Hal Jordan. That's all ya need to know.

I've said it a million times but now that we got our own forum....


Do the research

When you do the research, you will realize that Hal is the only choice to lead a GL franchise.


A John vs Sinestro movie would be awful.

Sinestro and Hal are the Joker and Batman of the GL mythos.


Hal is the only way. Or a Hal amalgamation which just seems unnecessary

Hal needs to be the main character, while John can be utilized in the only role he was ever meant for.. In a supporting one. He simply isn't meant to lead the franchise like Kyle or Hal...

 

[brainchild81]

Lol. You really focus on me too much, man. It's not healthy. Did I ever say I dislike Sinestro? Care to quote me on that, or are you putting words in someone's mouth yet again? You really need to stop with that stuff.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

I wouldn't mind them making this guy an amalgamation, mostly Hal, but adding the cartoonist bit as a hobby (taking cue from Kyle).

Thinking about it more, he will be kinda like Captain America that way.

 

[Rorschach2012]

I wouldn't mind them making this guy an amalgamation, mostly Hal, but adding the cartoonist bit as a hobby (taking cue from Kyle).

Thinking about it more, he will be kinda like Captain America that way.

The best route is to introduce Hal in JL1 and JL2. Snyder will make everyone love Hal, and then the spinoff comes in 2020, with Guy, John and maybe even Kyle too.

That's the best way.