Which Superman villains would like to see in the first installment of Superman 3.0?

[Rodrigo90]

In my story John Corben is a private detective,and a friend of both Clark and Lois. He goes undercover as an office worker,attempting to get any evidence of Lexcorp's illegal activities. He is the first to discover Lex and Brainiac's scheme,but is caught during the process and is not seen again for some time.

He returns only to have no memory of who he is. While in Lex's clutches he was tortured and gave the info that Clark and Lois are secretly investigating him,during the torture,he died from heart failure.

Lex using (taking crude advantage of also) his exoskeleton plans,manages to convert Corben into a cyborg. Knowing that Green K is biologically a weapon to Kyrptonians,and whatever form,is also mechanically a power source,uses it in Corben.

Corben is programmed to eliminate 2 targets...Clark and Superman,while Lex will kill Lois.

 

[GreenKToo]

Remember back when singer was ( supposedly) toying with the idea of using Zod in SR? I sure do.
The role was (again supposedly) going to be Jude Law's, but for whatever reason singer couldnt get him and he canned the idea. ( conflicting reports on it, some say its true, others say its not, pick your poison)

Anyway, all I read here, and lots and lots of other places, was how Singer couldn't be original by using Zod again and yadda yadda yadda, Brainiac, moan, grumble, mad, etc etc.

Then we got SR and it had no supervillain and Zod didnt seem so bad then. If he was ever going to be re-used it should have been then, not now, not just when we seem to be finally getting a proper Superman film.

Do we really want a repeat of all that. I'm not saying it would be a bad idea, just save him for a sequel.

 

[solidsnake86]

Yes i loved that comic. It added such dimension to why Zod would attack the council. i'm still waiting to see more of Non's relationship with Jorel fleshed out, but what an original idea. I would love to see that in the movie. It adds such depth to the plight of those 3 and gives Zod some serious credibility to his motivations.

For those who missed the issue:

While Jorel obeyed the Council's directive to stay quiet, Non didn't so they eventually lobotomized him to shut him up. Zod believed Non's warning about the destruction of krypton and was appalled at what the council did. He took non in as one of his own and tried to recruit jorel to aid them against the council. Jorel refused. Zod attempts a coup and evidently kills some fellow kryptonians though not the entire coucil. He's banished to the phantom zone along with ursa and non.

I think that's about it, am i missing anything, Solidsnake?

I think thats pretty much it, havent read it in a while. But you're right, it adds so much for the relationship between zod jorel and non. It makes zod a lot more relatable to his cause instead of the "kneel before zod" everytime someone disobeys him. Also, it was a great take on non him being a brilliant scientist then having the council lobotomize him.

 

[Webhead2006]

for me i said it before going with lex/metallo, or lex/brainiac for first films are nice starting off foes. As for what to do in sequel if they went brainaic first. Supes has plently of other villains like bizarro, toyman, silver banshee, darkseid, mongul, parasite and many others. all they need to do is make maybe a lesser foe like banshee into a bigger threat with story and who ever is playing said villain.

 

[Daybreak_st]

My point is that Zod can be used creatively in the new franchise if they choose. The key being creativity. I still think it's funny that some people feel if the character was used before in the old movies, one time, that someone it's an automatic link to the Reeve films. Lex Luthor anyone?!

As has been state Zod is a much more 3D character in the comics and even with Smallville you have creative use of the character. I don't recomend him for the first or even 2nd film but possiblly the 3rd. and not just the three villains but a whole slew of phantom zone escapees.

I think it would be cool after the reputation that Superman has built to have it torned down after fellow kryptonians reak havoc on earth. Like i said you could really play up the global destustruction angle, You would have Zod, Ursa, Non, Jax-Ur and some more Kryptonians. A lot of Kypton's past could be explored with Non and Jorel's history, perhaps even in the end Non regains some of his memory and helps Supes save the day. You could even bring in Chris Kent though i wouldn't suggest it. But seeing the Superman rouges he's gone up against so far go up against other kryptonians would be awesome, Bizarro slugging it out with non, metallo facing of against multiple kprytonians, bring in Steel, the science police, etc. And lex using all his insight into superman's weaknesses to device plots to kill this kryptonians. Epic.

I'm just going to put this out there, the comics have so many ideas that can and should be explored, if the only exposure to Superman you have is from other media, than you have a very limiited view of his potential both in character and story threads from the comics. You're essentially getting all you Superman info and his rogues through second hand exposure rather than from the source. I suggest picking up Superman: Last Son as just one such example.

 

[Webhead2006]

totally feel you there day, i wouldnt mind seeing zod again. But hold off to 2nd or 3rd film. and have a much different characterization then the reeve movies zod.

 

[Daybreak_st]

Exactly. I really do think people need to go back and watch those movies because while classic a lot of it wasn't very good. Zod wasn't characterized very well. He was a VERY 2D villain.

 

[Rodrigo90]

"Kneel before Zod...Daddy's *****"

 

[Changeling]

Brainiac, Bruno Mannheim, Lex Luthor, Parasite, Metallo, those would be my main villains for a new series

 

[Mr. Earle]

Ok, so first off let me explain that i know Superman's star villains but i am not so familiar with the various thugs, mob bosses and the rest of his b-list villains. Therefore i will give you a schematic of the villains that i'd use and if the b-list villains fit somewhere in the movie (like Maroni in TDK), so be it.

First movie: Brainiac and Lex. Brainiac is the major threat while Lex is still a good guy who gradually becomes evil through the course of this film. Superman steals his thunder and spotlight, he doesnt trust aliens, etc. Movie ends with Lex shifting the focus of Lexcorp to arms, lasers, Kryptonite, etc.

Second movie: Lex Luthor as the main villain and Parasite and Metallo as his pawns. My only problem is that while Lex can keep the movie's plot deep, Parasite and Metallo seem like a step down from Brainiac, both as threats and from the action scenes that they can produce. Someone else perhaps?

Third movie: First invasion from Apocolips by Darkseid's minions. Steppenwolf is the general of the forces while Darkseid is only mentioned and we only see his red eyes in the darkness. Superman defeats the first wave but he's going to need help for Darkseid's full invasion and DS himself. The movie ends at this point and the plot is continued and concluded in a JL film where we actually get to see Darkseid.

Spoiler

While Superman is the franchise that introduces Apocolips and brings in the formation of the JL, i would also have cameos and tie ins in the rest of the franchises. I dont know what i'd do with GL, but Batman could perhaps come across some Furies (Darkseid's female assassins) taking out military targets in Gotham before the invasion begins. Its one of the things that he comes across in one of his patrols, he gets his ass kicked but then he is forced to focus on the main villain of the movie because its what's most important at the time. He is also shown keeping tabs on the other superheroes. In a perfect world there would be a Superman/Batman film before all this that establishes their friendship, so an alternative cameo/tie-in could be Superman visiting Bruce in the cave to ask his opinion about all the strange activity. And before people start screaming that all this is not relevant to the bat movie's story, well it is relevant to whatever is happening to the wider DC movieverse and it also shows an aspect of Batman that we havent seen: That he is multitasking, keeping tabs on everyone, solving many cases at once, etc. It wouldnt distract us for long anyway.

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Alternative Third film in case they dont want to do team ups: Mongul. Such a great villain, but since i dont think that the general audience would enjoy "Gladiator 2: Superman" i wouldnt make the movie about Superman being a gladiator on Warworld, but rather show Mongul's revenge on Superman and Earth after Superman escapes from Warworld (shown in flashbacks). Lex in the sidelines doing whatever he usually does: Trying to discredit Superman and plan for his revenge.






I got carried away, didnt I? t:

 

[Webhead2006]

nice thoughts there earle.

 

[GreenKToo]

What about Gog in the second film?...

Gog steps in to gain some of the same attention as Superman is getting from the public, but he is very brutal. He kills villains with no exception. Purse snatchers as well as corporate baddies die at his hands.

Superman learns who is doing the killing and attempts to stop him, But gog is stronger and defeats Superman in the first encounter.

Gog goes after Lex next and that's when Lex would be forced to help Supes stop him or risk getting killed himself. Lex creates Metallo to help Stop Gog.

Later, when the threat of Gog has ended, thanks to the combined effort of Superman and Metallo, Lex reverts back to his old ways and turns Metallo on Supes.

If you don't like Gog, then substitute him for Parasite.

 

[Webhead2006]

hmm i dont know the gog character myself.

 

[Rodrigo90]

I think this would be cool.

 

[Daybreak_st]

I hope they use the military along with sam lane at some point. Also hoping Metallo is working for Lane rather than lex, as an assassin for the military or something. If lex does contract work for the military he helps create metallo, but ultimate corben still answers to lane, possibly even betraying lex, who assumes he can control metallo. Something like that. Over in reverse. Lane thinks he controls metallo but really lex rigged things so he's in control. Either way could be interesting.

 

[Webhead2006]

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[Webhead2006]

that is a wicked brainaic, though i would have just a bit shorter neck. he looks a bit to weird with a super long neck. i agree i definately want to see general lane and the military used more. ther eis alot they can do there. it would bring some good plot points to go.

 

[Night Owl]

I wanna see doomsday. It would be epic!!! t:

 

[Night Owl]

 

[james82]

lol is that billy zane

 

[Rodrigo90]

Night Owl...God Bless You.

 

[Nightwing1983]

I'm a little confused by the wording. Is this who should be in the first film or any of the films? While I'm trying not to use the standard, "oh it must be a trilogy" thing, I'm guessing that it's supposed to have multiple films.

 

[GreenKToo]

Nobody has said a thing about a trilogy. Folks are just assuming they will be a trilogy.
I'll be happy with just one for now.

 

[Nightwing1983]

Nobody has said a thing about a trilogy. Folks are just assuming they will be a trilogy.
I'll be happy with just one for now.

That doesn't answer my question, but whatever. I think the reason so many fans jump on the "trilogy" thing is that they think everything needs to be exactly like Star Wars with this grand-design. Most movie scripts are written in terms of "three acts" so the term "three act play" pops up a lot, but some take it to mean each movie is its own act, which can loosely be the case, but almost every movie in-and-of-itself has that.

 

[Webhead2006]

yea i think the original poster was asking who do you want to see used in this first new film, then also we have all expanded onto things we want in potential sequels.