The Force Awakens Who are Rey's parents (speculation)

To me, the Kenobi name is important to the Skywalker storyline. It would make sense that there would be a Kenobi in this part of the story as well.

I find it easier to believe Obi-Wan had a Lonesome Dove moment of weakness on a desert planet than Luke allowing his daughter to be smuggled away without knowing how to find her.
 
J.J. is now trying to "walk back" what he said, but he really can't... especially since what he said is entirely consistent with what's actually presented in the film itself.

You have such a history with being wrong all the time lol
 
You have such a history with being wrong all the time lol
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He shows up, tells everyone how he is right and how they are wrong, he ends up being wrong all the time, and then acts like it doesn't happen. :funny:
 
J.J. is now trying to "walk back" what he said, but he really can't... especially since what he said is entirely consistent with what's actually presented in the film itself.

You have such a history with being wrong all the time lol

He shows up, tells everyone how he is right and how they are wrong, he ends up being wrong all the time, and then acts like it doesn't happen. :funny:

Folks, there is no need to be unpleasant. We are all fans of the same thing.
 
You have such a history with being wrong all the time lol

Whatever.

Go watch the video of what J.J. said, and then go read what he said in "clarification"; it's patently obvious that what he said the first time 'round was the truth, and the "clarification" is merely an attempt to do damage control and "walk back" said truth.
 
Whatever.

Go watch the video of what J.J. said, and then go read what he said in "clarification"; it's patently obvious that what he said the first time 'round was the truth, and the "clarification" is merely an attempt to do damage control and "walk back" said truth.

I don't see the later comment by Abrams as any kind of "walk back". I think it simply adds to what he said previously.
 
Whatever.

Go watch the video of what J.J. said, and then go read what he said in "clarification"; it's patently obvious that what he said the first time 'round was the truth, and the "clarification" is merely an attempt to do damage control and "walk back" said truth.
How's Laurel DigificWriter? How is she doing? Also, you were so right about no problems during the production of the Fantastic Four. :lmao:

So what is going to happen when she is revealed to be Luke or Leia's? How are you going to handle being wrong this time?
 
To me, the Kenobi name is important to the Skywalker storyline. It would make sense that there would be a Kenobi in this part of the story as well.

I find it easier to believe Obi-Wan had a Lonesome Dove moment of weakness on a desert planet than Luke allowing his daughter to be smuggled away without knowing how to find her.

IA with you about Obi-Wan but not the last part about Luke. Men can and do father children they never know about. If she's his, there's no reason to beleive that he allowed her to be smuggled away if he didnt know about her existence.
 
IA with you about Obi-Wan but not the last part about Luke. Men can and do father children they never know about. If she's his, there's no reason to beleive that he allowed her to be smuggled away if he didnt know about her existence.

I just can't see them attempting to compete with one of the greatest moments in cinema history. The father reveal has no impact if it's Luke.

At least if it's Obi-Wan, it gives another part of the series a story to tell. We saw very little of Tatooine and only from Luke's perspective.
 
I just can't see them attempting to compete with one of the greatest moments in cinema history. The father reveal has no impact if it's Luke.

At least if it's Obi-Wan, it gives another part of the series a story to tell. We saw very little of Tatooine and only from Luke's perspective.

it depends. If they want to be as predictable as TFA was, they'll make her Luke's since most already guess this anyways. If they actually want to go with a lesser beleived theory, tying her to Obi-Wan would do the trick. Im hoping for the latter but I'll be satisified if its a true shock and someone i never considered. Luke though? Thats the one I want the least
 
They didn't give her the Skywalker lightsaber for her to be a random Kenobi. She was having visions of Skywalkers, not Obi-Wan. Her master is a Skywalker, her rival is a Skywalker. Her weapon is that of the Skywalkers. Her safe place is the location of Luke, even though she has never been there. Come on people. :funny:

By the way, I fully believe Luke knows who Rey is. His expression at the end said a lot of things, but there was clear acknowledgement. Of what, we will see.
 
They didn't give her the Skywalker lightsaber for her to be a random Kenobi. She was having visions of Skywalkers, not Obi-Wan. Her master is a Skywalker, her rival is a Skywalker. Her weapon is that of the Skywalkers. Come on people. :funny:

She heard Obi-Wan's voice in her vision though as he spoke to her :o
 
She heard Obi-Wan's voice in her vision though as he spoke to her :o
She also heard Yoda's. Obi-Wan and Yoda having a baby confirmed. :hehe:

There is literally no basis for this Obi-Wan thing. It is like the Snoke is Plagueis thing.
 
The lightsaber stuff is the big thing here. When I just talk to people in my daily life, THAT'S the big thing that makes most of them connect her to Luke. Even the other pretty obvious callbacks (mechanical aptitude, naturally gifted pilot from a young age, innate compassion for Droids, etc) could still maybe be brushed aside, possibly.

But having it be Luke and Anakin's old saber, which the film treats like a family heirloom to be passed down from one generation of Skywalker to another (and calls back to ANH, where it was also treated that way), and it now calling specifically to HER, and giving her visions all about the Skywalker family, except for one (which was of her own past), and hearing the voices of Luke and Anakin's old mentors calling out to her, and Maz's words, etc.


If she ISN'T connected to Luke, then it's hard to see all of this as anything more than deliberate trolling on JJ's part (the big OT fan that he is, I don't believe for a second that he didn't realize that by putting all of this stuff in the film, that lots of people in the audience were going to make that connection).


And as for it being "predictable," I couldn't care less. Doing a "twist," simply for the sake of doing one, or because some people cannot think that you cannot tell a good story without shoving one in there, is not good storytelling. Luke needing to train a Jedi student who's is also his long-last child, to confront her evil cousin who destroyed everything that he built the first time, adds a new wrinkle to these films that we've never seen before (whereas we've done the more traditional student/master thing TWICE already) and could be really compelling if done well.

And I'll take that over some nonsensical "twist" any day of the week.
 
The lightsaber stuff is the big thing here. When I just talk to people in my daily life, THAT'S the big thing that makes most of them connect her to Luke. Even the other pretty obvious callbacks (mechanical aptitude, naturally gifted pilot from a young age, innate compassion for Droids, etc) could still maybe be brushed aside, possibly.

But having it be Luke and Anakin's old saber, which the film treats like a family heirloom to be passed down from one generation of Skywalker to another (and calls back to ANH, where it was also treated that way), and it now calling specifically to HER, and giving her visions all about the Skywalker family, except for one (which was of her own past), and hearing the voices of Luke and Anakin's old mentors calling out to her, and Maz's words, etc.


If she ISN'T connected to Luke, then it's hard to see all of this as anything more than deliberate trolling on JJ's part (the big OT fan that he is, I don't believe for a second that he didn't realize that by putting all of this stuff in the film, that lots of people in the audience were going to make that connection).


And as for it being "predictable," I couldn't care less. Doing a "twist," simply for the sake of doing one, or because some people cannot think that you cannot tell a good story without shoving one in there, is not good storytelling. Luke needing to train a Jedi student who's is also his long-last child, to confront her evil cousin who destroyed everything that he built the first time, adds a new wrinkle to these films that we've never seen before (whereas we've done the more traditional student/master thing TWICE already) and could be really compelling if done well.

And I'll take that over some nonsensical "twist" any day of the week.
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Rey is a Skywalker - most likely Luke's daughter - and JJ is just ****ing with us in his "mystery box" way like he did with Khan.

The lightsaber stuff is the big thing here. When I just talk to people in my daily life, THAT'S the big thing that makes most of them connect her to Luke. Even the other pretty obvious callbacks (mechanical aptitude, naturally gifted pilot from a young age, innate compassion for Droids, etc) could still maybe be brushed aside, possibly.

But having it be Luke and Anakin's old saber, which the film treats like a family heirloom to be passed down from one generation of Skywalker to another (and calls back to ANH, where it was also treated that way), and it now calling specifically to HER, and giving her visions all about the Skywalker family, except for one (which was of her own past), and hearing the voices of Luke and Anakin's old mentors calling out to her, and Maz's words, etc.


If she ISN'T connected to Luke, then it's hard to see all of this as anything more than deliberate trolling on JJ's part (the big OT fan that he is, I don't believe for a second that he didn't realize that by putting all of this stuff in the film, that lots of people in the audience were going to make that connection).


And as for it being "predictable," I couldn't care less. Doing a "twist," simply for the sake of doing one, or because some people cannot think that you cannot tell a good story without shoving one in there, is not good storytelling. Luke needing to train a Jedi student who's is also his long-last child, to confront her evil cousin who destroyed everything that he built the first time, adds a new wrinkle to these films that we've never seen before (whereas we've done the more traditional student/master thing TWICE already) and could be really compelling if done well.

And I'll take that over some nonsensical "twist" any day of the week.

100% :up: Too many set-ups in TFA for Rey being Luke's daughter for it to not feel like a gyp if they reversed it. Kind of like how I feel in Game of Thrones if [blackout]Jon Snow doesn't come back from the dead, and is not revealed to be a Targaryen.[/blackout]
 
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Rey is a Skywalker - most likely Luke's daughter - and JJ is just ****ing with us in his "mystery box" way like he did with Khan.

Wrong. J.J. has flat-out admitted that he handled the "John Harrison is not Kahn" thing completely wrong and is not going to make that mistake again.

Seriously, go watch the video.

There's nothing ambiguous, misleading, or obscure about what J.J. said at Tribeca. He told the truth, and has unsuccessfully tried to "walk back" said truth, but you can't put that genie back in the bottle.

Rey's parents are not in The Force Awakens... therefore, she's not a Solo or Skywalker.

You can choose to believe that or not, but the truth is out there and no amount of non-belief is going to change that, just as no amount of retraction is going to change that.
 
There was a whole lot already covered in this thread that not only suggests that Luke is Rey's father but does so in a very deliberate way but hey, I've been wrong before.
 
Wrong. J.J. has flat-out admitted that he handled the "John Harrison is not Kahn" thing completely wrong and is not going to make that mistake again.

Seriously, go watch the video.

There's nothing ambiguous, misleading, or obscure about what J.J. said at Tribeca. He told the truth, and has unsuccessfully tried to "walk back" said truth, but you can't put that genie back in the bottle.

Rey's parents are not in The Force Awakens... therefore, she's not a Solo or Skywalker.

You can choose to believe that or not, but the truth is out there and no amount of non-belief is going to change that, just as no amount of retraction is going to change that.

By saying this, you've pretty much sealed the deal. Rey is Luke's daughter:up:
 
I wouldn't take ANYTHING JJ says about plot points for upcoming movies at face value. He's already flat-out lied about the details of projects he's involved in before.
 
^ And has admitted that doing so was a mistake.

Which could be another mystery box lie. :oldrazz: I know it might sound like I'm attacking him over Khan and some of his other diversions, but I'm not, it's not like he broke some huge moral code by lying to keep secrecy alive. I'm just saying, we have no reason to take what he says at face value if he's been known to trick people and there are HUGE hints in TFA that point to Rey being a Skywalker. Obviously though, we won't know for sure until opening day.
 
Which could be another mystery box lie. :oldrazz: I know it might sound like I'm attacking him over Khan and some of his other diversions, but I'm not, it's not like he broke some huge moral code by lying to keep secrecy alive. I'm just saying, we have no reason to take what he says at face value if he's been known to trick people and there are HUGE hints in TFA that point to Rey being a Skywalker. Obviously though, we won't know for sure until opening day.

There aren't HUGE hints in TFA that point to Rey being a Skywalker, though.
 
Ok, maybe not "HUGE" but stuff brought up extensively in this thread like the lightsaber calling to her that I think wouldn't be a stretch to call deliberately misleading if she turns out not to be a Skywalker. Which would be whatever, I guess. Wouldn't exactly make or break Episode VIII or whenever they chose to reveal her parents.
 

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