BvS Who is Miscast in this cinematic universe?

[MrsKent26]

I wouldn't recast her. I can't see any actress who'd pull it off like she has. I can't imagine someone else for the role who wouldn't just come across as being a typical American portrayal of the character.

I didn't really see her pull anything off. Her dialogue was flat, just reading lines. She had a great action sequence, but that would have been great with any actress. She didn't bring anything unique or charismatic to her quiet scenes. Still, she wasn't bad and that's why I'm ambivalent towards her casting.

 

[Boom]

I'd have reworked Luthor's character entirely and cast Damian Lewis.

 

[NotSoLongAgo]

I didn't really see her pull anything off. Her dialogue was flat, just reading lines. She had a great action sequence, but that would have been great with any actress. She didn't bring anything unique or charismatic to her quiet scenes. Still, she wasn't bad and that's why I'm ambivalent towards her casting.

Yeah in fact there's one line in particular I can't recall where I thought she sounded pretty wooden. Not bad, but not great.

I'd have reworked Luthor's character entirely and cast Damian Lewis.

That would've been interesting!

 

[B]

For sure it would have been Jesse Eisenberg, I was optimistic about him going in because I felt he plays someone quite smart & devious quite well in other movies. But after having seen BvS he for sure kinda drags the movie down a little, he's not the movies biggest problem that's for certain but most of these superhero movies are only as good as their villian & both Lex & Doomsday were letdowns.

I'd recast him because firstly he's too young, I'd have cast someone in & around Ben Affleck's age. Billy Zane would probably be my best shout of the top of my head, always felt he's make an excellent businessman/scientist Lex.

Secondly after having seen Eisenberg's Lex, I think he's too Joker or Riddler like, he comes across quite schizophrenic with erratic behavior & motives throughout the movie... now maybe that's the way Snyder wanted him to perform the role, but I think it is 100% completely the wrong way Lex Luthor needs to be done if that is the case. Being behind the scenes controlling things is fine, but the fact that this Lex somewhat comes forward at the end to accept responsibility is uncharacteristic for the character.. him staying anonymous to the public but the known cause by Batman & Superman at the end of the movie would have set the character up better for any future returns IMO.

 

[Monochron]

Would definitely scrap this take on Luthor and replace Eisenberg with Damian Lewis, Patrick Wilson, Matt Damon, or Joaquin Phoenix.

Also at this moment I would not be opposed to Wonder Woman being recast. Gadot did nothing for me in the role.

 

[MadVillainy]

In defense of Gadot...I think the jury is out on her. She simply wasn't given enough to do to make a decision on her. I dont get all these people who are gushing about, or disliking, her. She literally had nothing to do.

At least imo

 

[Monochron]

I'd have reworked Luthor's character entirely and cast Damian Lewis.

Also your random thoughts from the plot thread are great.

 

[Daedalus]

I would recast a whole lot, to be honest. Actually, at this point in time, I somewhat wish we could jettison the Snyderverse into oblivion, and start over. It's obviously not going to happen though.

On the subject of Lex, it's always difficult to please everyone, simply because he is a character who's had many onscreen renditions in the past: you had crazy scientist (which is what I think Eisenberg was going for), eccentric real state billionaire (Hackman/Stacey), the thug-in-a-suit (e.g. STAS), and the more composed and calculating businessman/politician (e.g. Young Justice). I would prefer to see the latter, not only because I think he is a more formidable foe that way, but also because I think Lex Luthor could make some legitimately intringuing points: what makes Superman's morals the "right" ones? Should he go around imposing that on everyone, just because he can?

So I would cast someone charming and elegant for the role, a more seasoned figure that could conceivably make all his questionable dealings and yet escape suspicion and prosecution, keeping the public's trust in him. Perhaps they could even follow up on some variation of the President/UN Secretary-General Luthor storyline. One suggestion I really like is Iain Glen:

Glen can effortlessly pull-off the intellectual, condescending tone while being sufficiently charming and composed. He is British, but I'm certain that he would be able to emulate an American entonation for Luthor.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

I don't think anyone was miscast.

 

[Ms. Marvel]

Eisenberg.

 

[hellblazer103]

I don't think anyone would have been good as Lex as he was written, but I like the idea of Michael Pitt as Luthor.

NOOOOO. Michael Pitt is soooo Joker. Or Black Mask.

 

[Eddie Dean]

Those are the easy choices for him. Luthor is the interesting choice!

 

[DavidTyler]

Eisenberg .. Definitely. Zack should've gone with his first plan and cast him as Jimmy and cast someone more traditional for Lex.

And the fact that they were going to make Jimmy a CIA spook..... No, not a fan.

 

[JTStarkiller]

In defense of Gadot...I think the jury is out on her. She simply wasn't given enough to do to make a decision on her. I dont get all these people who are gushing about, or disliking, her. She literally had nothing to do.

Yes, LITERALLY nothing.

 

[DOBSON10]

I think they nailed the casting of Superman and Alfred. Those two choices are basically perfect to me. And I like Diane Lane as Martha Kent alot as well. The rest of the cast, I'm mixed on.

Ben Affleck/Batman: Absolutely nothing wrong with Ben's performance really, he was solid to above average as Bruce/Bats to me. But I'll always wish that the DCU would have been built around Christian Bale/Henry Cavill. They are/were both excellent in the roles and I think they would have meshed better. And Bale is just a much better actor than Ben. But Ben certainly wasn't a problem. I understand the reasons behind the change but that's just always how I'll think of it.

Jesse Eisenberg/Lex Luthor: To me, this is both miscasting and mischarterization. Or just going in a direction with the character that I just don't like, whatever you want to call it, I don't like it. I've hated this choice from the start, though I will give Jesse credit for something, I didn't think he could pull off a believable villain period, I think he did come off as an OK villain, just not Lex Luthor. It felt more like the Riddler with a bunch of Lex traits tacked on. He would have been an excellent Riddler. But it's just not Lex, or at least not a version of Lex I find interesting. Good actor, wrong character. IMO.

Ezra Miller/The Flash Another good actor that just doesn't fit what I expect of the character. Too early to judge him completely though.

Amy Adams/Lois Lane Look, Adams is one of the better actresses in Hollywood, she's earned her right to any role she wants to be honest. But she just doesn't do anything for me as Lois. A major part of the problem however has been the writing/dialogue/characterization of Lois. I've always pictured Lois as more energetic and joyful character. They have the serious/tough side of the character going OK but she's dreadfully dull overall. Most of this I don't blame Adams for though.

So far I'm OK with Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman, not blown away but I thought she was good enough. Jason Momoa is up in the air, but I'm more optimistic about it than not. The rest has been solid to above average I would say.

 

[Baneis8feettall]

I still think Richard Armitage would make an excellent Batman. He is as tall as Affleck, much better actor and great deep voice for Batman.

Maybe it's better this way. He would be wasted in this movie. Can wait for the reboot in next couple of years

 

[wnjcwjkk]

Woulda been cool to see Daniel Day Lewis as Lex Luthor.



Probably unpopular opinion, but I wasn't exactly thrilled with the announcement of J.K. Simmons as Comissioner Gordon. Idk, I just had something different in mind for Gordon, I really liked the suggestions of Cranston and Kurt Russell.

I'm not being negative about it though, can't wait to see Gordon in this DC Universe, just not my ideal choice, but I'm completely open, and I might eventually love him in the role

 

[wnjcwjkk]

Yeah, when I heard Ezra Miller's name and IMDb'ed him, I looked at his picture and thought "WTF are they thinking?" Watched him in Wallflower, and I can kinda see what they're going for, adding a little diversity, he needs to SERIOUSLY bulk up in my opinion. Jury's still out on him as far as I'm concerned. But I'm open minded to it.

I was open minded to Eisenburg as Luthor, though I can't lie, I was really disappointed when I first heard the news. Again, I get the angle they were going for, but I just think that there could have been a much more effective Luthor had they gone with a more serious actor.





Ooh, I do like the idea of Michael Pitt as Joker, or Matthew McConoughay or Christian Bale might could have been cool, but they never would have done that. But I'm satisfied with what I've seen of Leto, and especially what I've read about his Method methods.



With some really good makeup and prosthetics, Stephen Graham for Penguin

 

[BMCAABY]

Jesse Eisenberg/Lex Luthor: To me, this is both miscasting and mischarterization. Or just going in a direction with the character that I just don't like, whatever you want to call it, I don't like it. I've hated this choice from the start, though I will give Jesse credit for something, I didn't think he could pull off a believable villain period, I think he did come off as an OK villain, just not Lex Luthor. It felt more like the Riddler with a bunch of Lex traits tacked on. He would have been an excellent Riddler. But it's just not Lex, or at least not a version of Lex I find interesting. Good actor, wrong character. IMO.

I think all the castings are phenomenal. They are great choices as they are decent actors. The problem lies in how they chose to write the characters and force the actors to act/behave so to fit the role. The only problem I felt with Lex Luthor is his origin story, it could've been re-written so most GA did not go crazy over him not being bald. I thought Eisenberg played him well, I just think the appearance of the character was too different than most people know it, THUS they hate it. Most critics liked his performance and portrayal of the character. The problem was wrong version, they could've made him be little more menacing than a campy awkward sociopath.

They went wrong with the way he is dressed to they way he sounds, the dialogues and portrayal was great. If they had made Eisenberg speak a little more menacing and tried a little more of deeper speaking style then it would've been good.
If he had appeared as so then he wouldn't have been considered as bad.

 

[BMCAABY]

Yeah, when I heard Ezra Miller's name and IMDb'ed him, I looked at his picture and thought "WTF are they thinking?" Watched him in Wallflower, and I can kinda see what they're going for, adding a little diversity, he needs to SERIOUSLY bulk up in my opinion. Jury's still out on him as far as I'm concerned. But I'm open minded to it.

I was open minded to Eisenburg as Luthor, though I can't lie, I was really disappointed when I first heard the news. Again, I get the angle they were going for, but I just think that there could have been a much more effective Luthor had they gone with a more serious actor.





Ooh, I do like the idea of Michael Pitt as Joker, or Matthew McConoughay or Christian Bale might could have been cool, but they never would have done that. But I'm satisfied with what I've seen of Leto, and especially what I've read about his Method methods.



With some really good makeup and prosthetics, Stephen Graham for Penguin

This is what Ezra Miller looks like now, this is his most recent look. He has bulked up a lot and is physically perfect for the character I think. (I did not think he was but now I think he is in the right physical shape for the character)

 

[BMCAABY]

I would recast a whole lot, to be honest. Actually, at this point in time, I somewhat wish we could jettison the Snyderverse into oblivion, and start over. It's obviously not going to happen though.

On the subject of Lex, it's always difficult to please everyone, simply because he is a character who's had many onscreen renditions in the past: you had crazy scientist (which is what I think Eisenberg was going for), eccentric real state billionaire (Hackman/Stacey), the thug-in-a-suit (e.g. STAS), and the more composed and calculating businessman/politician (e.g. Young Justice). I would prefer to see the latter, not only because I think he is a more formidable foe that way, but also because I think Lex Luthor could make some legitimately intringuing points: what makes Superman's morals the "right" ones? Should he go around imposing that on everyone, just because he can?

So I would cast someone charming and elegant for the role, a more seasoned figure that could conceivably make all his questionable dealings and yet escape suspicion and prosecution, keeping the public's trust in him. Perhaps they could even follow up on some variation of the President/UN Secretary-General Luthor storyline. One suggestion I really like is Iain Glen:

Glen can effortlessly pull-off the intellectual, condescending tone while being sufficiently charming and composed. He is British, but I'm certain that he would be able to emulate an American entonation for Luthor.

You know what would've been a different but totally acceptable take in my opinion? Having Denzel Washington play President Lex Luthor, it parallels to real life by having an African American president and It would've done the things you suggested.

I mean having him as a president and make him unstoppable, because one you cannot get him in Jail easily because he is calculated and the public like him and his reasoning. He will essentially be a foe that will be still seen in DCEU for it's many years by doing so.

A lot of people would've bashed the race change, but you know he could be still bald and the character has been drawn/animated to look sort of hispanic or like a minority before.

 

[BarryAllen]

-Amy Adam as Lois Lane
-Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luthor
-And in my opinion, Henry Cavill as Superman (he's pretty flat and has little charisma).

 

[shauner111]

I wouldn't have shaved Lex's head. I wouldn't have recast Eisenberg either. Just bring in Lex Luthor Sr and cast Bryan Cranston in a future Justice League or Superman movie.

The rest of the cast has been great. Sure, Cavill is a bland actor. Not a very good one at all. But he's passable when you're writing Clark with very little development in the first place. It works mainly because Cavill looks perfect in the role.

If Amy Adams had darker hair, people wouldn't moan. She's great casting. She's just given little to work with. Then again, my limited knowledge of Superman comics tells me that Lois was never given that much to work with outside of the usual crap.

 

[DieSmiling]

Eisenberg and Ezra Miller. Maybe he'll prove me wrong but he couldn't look less like what I would want the Flash (or any superhero) to look like.

 

[shauner111]

Ezra is a great actor, he's hilarious too. I don't think he looks anything like the character and i wasn't crazy of that glimpse we got of the Flash suit. But i've never been attached to Flash as a character, so this time im willing to see what this version is going to be like.