Homecoming Who should be the Villain in Spider-Man (2017)? - Part 3

[I'm Batman.]

Vulture would have been perfect for Ben Kingsley, but of course he can't do it now. Jonathan Banks (Breaking Bad) was mentioned. He has a good look for the role. Not sure if he's right for the role, but I'm sure he could do a great job with it.

I think he could be interesting, but they'd need to give him a good personality with motives. In the comics he just wanted to steal money. I think if they linked him to Oscorp the way he was in the 1990s cartoon (built Oscorp's tech, built suit, but Norman kicked him out, something along those lines).

 

[PeterBenParker]

Vulture would have been perfect for Ben Kingsley, but of course he can't do it now. Jonathan Banks (Breaking Bad) was mentioned. He has a good look for the role. Not sure if he's right for the role, but I'm sure he could do a great job with it.

What would make him 'right' for the role? If anything, he could take a role a lot of people see as a joke and flip that on his head. Dude would be an awesome Vulture.

I agree with Kingsley, too.

I think he could be interesting, but they'd need to give him a good personality with motives. In the comics he just wanted to steal money. I think if they linked him to Oscorp the way he was in the 1990s cartoon (built Oscorp's tech, built suit, but Norman kicked him out, something along those lines).

There are a lot of different routes to take with Vulture that would make him something more bigger than a thug who flies around robbing banks, honestly.

 

[Spider-Gnome]

I think he could be interesting, but they'd need to give him a good personality with motives. In the comics he just wanted to steal money. I think if they linked him to Oscorp the way he was in the 1990s cartoon (built Oscorp's tech, built suit, but Norman kicked him out, something along those lines).

Or something like Spectacular, someone who worked for Osborn and Osborn stole the tech. Still say he should be the one who invented Falcon's tech.

What would make him 'right' for the role? If anything, he could take a role a lot of people see as a joke and flip that on his head. Dude would be an awesome Vulture.

Meaning I'm not use to him being the inventor type. He's more muscle. But, he is also a good actor (see also Better Call Saul), so I'm sure he could pull it off.

 

[Webhead2006]

i just cant wait to hear of names of guys testing/offered the lead villain role. plus if we get guys like norman(who has to be in the film in some form) or ock in background roles to see what guys nab roles. Marvel and even sony has gotten some great names to work on there films.

 

[ernesth100]

How could they pull off reusing one of the recent villains like Goblin, Sandman Rhino, Venom or The Lizard. I actually wouldn't have a problem with Doc Ock being the first villain.

Goblin-If Holland's Spider-Man has been active since he was 14 that means Norman could have already tested the Goblin serum on himself before Peter got bit. Or sometime around the time he got bit. He should be 16 in the 2017 film. If Peter gets in the way of some of Normans personal operations I could see him taking it upon himself as the Goblin to get rid of Peter.


Rhino and Sandman-They could easily be thugs that have a grudge against Spider-Man hired by a bigger background figure. Then they get powers. It would be smart to have both of them in one film. In Act 1 have peter take them on as thugs. Then in Act 2 have the transformation and have one attack first and then right then in the final act have the next one attac and Peter take down that one too. Not kill, take down. Marvel has a problem with killing off villains.


Doc Ock-This one is actually a bit simple. Just have him working under or with Norman and then the accident happens. He goes crazy and Peter has to save Norman from being killed. Ock goes away, comes back attacks a second time. Peter defeats him and Ock is arrested.


Lizard- I actually don't know.


Venom-I don't think it's possible to pull this off in Peters first MCU solo outing.

 

[Web-Head]

Do you think Jonathan Banks is too old to play Vulture?

 

[ernesth100]

The Vulture is supposed to be an old man so no. Not really. He's only 68.

 

[Mike Murdock]

Yeah, I think he's the right age and look for the role.

 

[Venom'sDad]

I personally would cast someone that old...Vulture should be middle aged.

 

[PeterBenParker]

Do you think Jonathan Banks is too old to play Vulture?

Nope, he's perfect in my eyes. Hence why I suggested him and as others pointed out below:

The Vulture is supposed to be an old man so no. Not really. He's only 68.

Yeah, I think he's the right age and look for the role.

Ta-da.

I personally would cast someone that old...Vulture should be middle aged.

If you want an Ultimate-esque Vulture, sure, but I'd prefer if they went classic since it'd be the first time seeing him.

 

[PeterBenParker]

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[Web-Head]

It wouldn't make sense to cast Vulture around middle age since Aunt May is 50 along with Norman Osborn who will probably be 40-50 ish. Jonathan Banks it is!

 

[PeterBenParker]

Plus, he's a great actor. We've got a good balance, folks!

 

[Web-Head]

Plus, he's a great actor. We've got a good balance, folks!

Yes! Pretty creepy gif though..

 

[AvegningSpider]

The guy looks like a dead on Adrian Toomes.

 

[harryoscop]

I prefer Ultimate Vulture, a 70 year-old Adrian Toomes fighting Spidey is and always was an unrealistic concept in the comics, and it'll look even weirder in a film adaptation tbh. Jacke Earle Haley is my choice.

 

[AvegningSpider]

Christopher Eccleston or Malkovich.

 

[Web-Head]

I prefer Ultimate Vulture, a 70 year-old Adrian Toomes fighting Spidey is and always was an unrealistic concept in the comics, and it'll look even weirder in a film adaptation tbh. Jacke Earle Haley is my choice.

He could be 65 and that's what would make his tech so valuable and powerful.

 

[PeterBenParker]

He could be 65 and that's what would make his tech so valuable and powerful.

Bingo.

 

[PeterBenParker]

a 70 year-old Adrian Toomes fighting Spidey is and always was an unrealistic concept in the comics, and it'll look even weirder in a film adaptation tbh. Jacke Earle Haley is my choice.

Keep in mind, we're also on a forum dedicated to a character that got bit by a radioactive spider as a teenager that probably should've killed him but instead granted him the ability to climb walls, have a sixth sense, and heightened agility whilst also granting him the ability to make his own "web" fluid so he can put on red-and-blue spandex and swing around NY fighting off Goblins, an Octopus, an Alien, a Lizard, and everything else in between.

(Yeah yeah, I know they aren't actually animals/creatures but the point still works, I tell you! )

 

[PeterBenParker]

Christopher Eccleston

I could really see that, going off looks alone of course as I have no idea how he is acting wise. However, he was already a Marvel villain if I'm not mistaken, so that'd automatically rule him out.

 

[PeterBenParker]

Last post for the night:

If not Adrian Toomes, we could easily have Blackie Drago be the Vulture. Heck, Toomes could be the original Vulture that passes the mantle down to Blackie or something. Either way, I just really want Vulture on screen (and for the first film, but mostly just on screen).

 

[The Overlord]

If Vulture or Mysterio or anyone else is the Big Bad of a film, they need to do something more interesting then robbing banks.

People say they are tired of sympathetic villains, but then they want a villain who just robs banks. How is robbing banks unsympathetic compared to the things Red Skull or Killgrave did, bank robbing is not unsympathetic, its just generic.

I have heard people here say that Vulture should be nuisance rather then a real threatening villain, but if all he does is rob banks and not kill people, why Spider-Man endanger his social life to fight him? What happens if Vulture successfully robs a bank, what the bank's insurance rate goes up and Vulture escapes with some money that will ruined by a hidden ink pack in 5 minutes? Not very smart for a supposed evil genius. Really bank robbery is a crime in decline, bank robbing super villains would seem trivial in today's world, they represent no real stakes. Spider-Man should fight to protect people's lives, not protect a bank's insurance rate. Robbing banks is not the height of villainy.

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/05/14/todays-bonnie-and-clydes-getting-tougher-to-find.html

I think after 2008, many people have very little sympathy for bank owners, they are likely robbing more people then Vulture or Shocker ever did.

Not get me wrong, bank robbery is a fine crime to have in Act 1, but the villains should move beyond bank robbery in Act 3.

 

[Wildcard]

I could really see that, going off looks alone of course as I have no idea how he is acting wise. However, he was already a Marvel villain if I'm not mistaken, so that'd automatically rule him out.

Well, to be fair his portrayal of Malekith was under a ton of make-up so they could probably get away with it if it happened.

Hell, even if people know he was the guy that played the villain in TDW, I doubt they'd even care as long as it's good.

Unfortunately Kingsley can't be used for the simple fact that his actual face was shown in IM 3. A pity because he's literally perfect for the role.

Of course I'd still be fine with Robert Englund in the role as well. Would be awesome to see that happen.

 

[AvegningSpider]

Keep in mind, we're also on a forum dedicated to a character that got bit by a radioactive spider as a teenager that probably should've killed him but instead granted him the ability to climb walls, have a sixth sense, and heightened agility whilst also granting him the ability to make his own "web" fluid so he can put on red-and-blue spandex and swing around NY.

Genetic altering lottery really......damn you Argentina and your inhability to create genetically altered super spiders!