Ant-Man Who should direct Ant-man?

[Mysteryman]

I guess someone of the Apatow crowd is also a very real possibility

Is there a rumor to that effect?

 

[TheVileOne]

"Join me on the dark side of the force, my son. It is the only way."

 

[Dyson]

Gavin Hood or Louis Leterrier.

 

[louiebling$]

If he weren't tied to other projects and the fact that he is loyal to universal I think Justin Lin would be a great choice

 

[Mike Murdock]

BTW, should someone change the forum description?

 

[Airwings]

Gavin Hood or Louis Leterrier.

Yes, why not. TIH was a really good film, imo.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Marvel should probably cancel this film now. It's Scott Lang instead of Hank Pym. Pym was horribly aged and even Pym is a B-list hero who's only interesting when he's on the Avengers and not as a solo hero.

Marvel mentioned having scripts for Captain Marvel and Blade and Feige has mentioned being a fan of Black Panther. Why not use one of them since they're far more popular heroes and none seem likely to appear in Phase 3?

I remember Feige once saying that Ant-Man was only being made since it was Edgar Wright. Now that he's gone, what's the draw for a potential audience for a character who audiences may have trouble taking seriously?

As far as I can recall, none of the Ant-Men have had great runs on the comics like the above three. Christopher Priest's Black Panther, Marv Wolfman's Tomb of Dracula and all three books starring Carol Danvers (Claremont, Reed and DeConnick) are well-regarded by fans. I can't think of a single great, essential solo Hank Pym work since Stan Lee's Tales to Astonish. Nearly all of his stories since 1965 have just been Avengers titles. Hell, he even lost his own book to Hulk at that time. Now when Ultron is no longer part of his character arc, he's not really needed for any role.


Amongst the other choices, BP has been a member of the Avengers for decades and was part of the team during the Kurt Busiek run along with Jonathan Hickman's current Avengers work, Captain Marvel was part of the team during Kurt Busiek's run and even became the field leader under Bendis and now Blade was the most recent Ronin and just joined the Avengers a short while ago. Any of these three can fit. Alternately, I wouldn't mind a solo film for War Machine or Black Widow.

Phase 3 right now is

Ant-Man
Cap 3
Doctor Strange
Thor 3
Hulk 2
Avengers 3

Why not bump off Ant-Man and give fans a character that we really want?

I don't think that will happen. In fact I give either Black Panther or Carol Danvers a 50-50 shot at happening in the MCU.

 

[Pink Ranger]

Man, all these Ratner jokes have me genuinely scared now that it will actually become reality. Stop it, people! Not funny!

 

[Ant-manic]

More like thousands. They only got Rudd and Douglass under contract, they didn't start shooting yet and probably don't owe them anything.

From what I hear, the execs at Disney wanted a generic summer blockbuster and wanted the film to feel more homogenized to the point where it was no longer a heist movie since Scott Lang was no longer a thief. Keep in mind that allegedly, Whedon and Fiege liked Wright's version better so they may use their power as producers to keep this film from being as bad as it looks like it'll be. For one, Whedon and Fiege learned their lesson from Thor: The Dark World when compromising Alan Taylor's vision led to a movie that's in serious need of a director's cut and the complaints of most fans were the same as those of the director, which is probably why the Russos were able to make a film that was more of a thriller than a superhero film and James Gunn is being given free reign with an obscure property.

So when you have a movie where the executives are clearly not agreeing on how to run things (and Marvel has taken plenty of risks but hasn't flopped once yet) then you'll either have a jumbled nonsensical mess that's the result of too many ideas but no concrete vision or you'll have a film designed by committee that most viewers will sleep through.

Keep in mind that if the current film gets made and then wins at the box office, it doesn't matter how risky previous films were, the lesson to be learned is, "play it safe." So no matter what Feige and Whedon want to do with a potential film starring a character like Black Panther or Captain Marvel, it won't be made because of Disney's fears over race or gender hurting the movie at the box office. Also, we'll never get another Blade film because a hard R film with a black lead will be too much of a risk.

If Ant-Man fails, then the moral of the story is that audiences are tired of superheroes and Marvel Studios gets gutted by Disney.

So no matter what happens, Marvel loses in a very big way.

that's illogical. why would they use Ant-man as the litmus test? why not Iron Man 2 or 3? why not Avengers 2? or Thor 2? Captain America 2 did quite well and wasn't a "safe" movie by any means.

 

[Dyson]

[FONT=&quot]I don’t see why Brett Ratner would be such a horrible choice. He isn’t my first choice to direct but he isn’t my last. Ratner does fine when he has a fine script. Look at a movie like “Red Dragon”. That was a great thriller and it was well cast and directed. It had a strong script. Even a film like "After the Sunset" was a fun flick. So many comic fans blame him for “X-Men: The Last Stand”, but all he did was work with the script he was given. It was a well shot, well design, well directed film, but the X3 script was the key issue. If Ratner does somehow end up directing “Ant-Man”, as long as the script is good then the film will be fine. It wouldn’t be the unique film version we wanted from Edgar Wright, but a Brett Ratner version would be a fun, entertaining Marvel summer blockbuster. [/FONT]

 

[The Question]

I mean, for starters he is a super boring director. Like, I enjoy Red Dragon a lot, but that film worked on a direction level because Ratner was trying to make it as much like Silence of the Lambs as possible. The guy's got no voice or creativity of his own, he just works off of pre-existing formulas. He is the very model of a modern studio hack. With a good script, he'd likely have a well written and well acted film that's "meh" in most other respects. It would be perfectly serviceable, and might even still be a genuinely great film if the writing and the acting are good enough, but it's unquestionably an enormous downgrade.

But honestly, I think a lot of the Ratner hate comes from the fact that he's a genuinely horrible person. He has in interviews spread some truly vile sexual rumors about women he's worked with in the past because they spurned his advances. Like, on a human level, everything in the Grinch song that's supposed to describe the Grinch applies to him. He has termites in his smile. He has garlic in his ****ing soul. And I think a lot of people let their disgust for Brett Ratner the human spill over into their opinion of Brett Ratner the director. As a director, he's thoroughly mediocre and is way more successful than he deserves to be, but he's not that bad.

 

[smashmode]

Outside of Cornish, who else will be able to mix action and comedy?

 

[Mysteryman]

Cornish co wrote the original script with Wright ,
It will not be him.
And Hollywood has plenty of directors who can mix action with comedy .
That will not be a problem.

 

[louiebling$]

Outside of Cornish, who else will be able to mix action and comedy?

Justin Lin
Michel Gondry

 

[Dr. Evil]

Outside of Cornish, who else will be able to mix action and comedy?

Phil Lord and Chris Miller.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Justin Lin

Hmm....

He would not be a bad option.

 

[louiebling$]

Hmm....

He would not be a bad option.

He would be a very suitable replacement but he is a Universal guy and on top of that has a few projects that he is already attached to

But Money talks

 

[bapi]

Leterrier will start shooting Grimsby in July / August and he really believes in that project so...


But Lin is a good option. He's working on Bourne 5 now but we didn't hear anything new for a long time and that movie is pointless anyway. Also he's used to working under tough schedules.

 

[TheAQU4M4N]

Just get Favreau and be done with it lol

 

[MynAmeIsedDie90]

I would be interested to see what a spielberg ant-man film would be like

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

Edgar Wright

 

[Ant-manic]

Edgar Wright, Joe Cornish, or John Carpenter

 

[Kanon]

I don't think we will get a big name director, to continue production at this point. the new director won't be here to bring his vision. The only way I can imagine a big director here would be to inspire confidence in the movie, and the promise of sequels.

 

[Serpico Jones]

I mean, for starters he is a super boring director. Like, I enjoy Red Dragon a lot, but that film worked on a direction level because Ratner was trying to make it as much like Silence of the Lambs as possible. The guy's got no voice or creativity of his own, he just works off of pre-existing formulas. He is the very model of a modern studio hack. With a good script, he'd likely have a well written and well acted film that's "meh" in most other respects. It would be perfectly serviceable, and might even still be a genuinely great film if the writing and the acting are good enough, but it's unquestionably an enormous downgrade.

But honestly, I think a lot of the Ratner hate comes from the fact that he's a genuinely horrible person. He has in interviews spread some truly vile sexual rumors about women he's worked with in the past because they spurned his advances. Like, on a human level, everything in the Grinch song that's supposed to describe the Grinch applies to him. He has termites in his smile. He has garlic in his ****ing soul. And I think a lot of people let their disgust for Brett Ratner the human spill over into their opinion of Brett Ratner the director. As a director, he's thoroughly mediocre and is way more successful than he deserves to be, but he's not that bad.

Ratner is the kind of director that Marvel likes, he's a no style point and shoot guy that will come in and get the job done and then hand it off to the producers and editor.

 

[The Question]

Ratner is the kind of director that Marvel likes, he's a no style point and shoot guy that will come in and get the job done and then hand it off to the producers and editor.

I don't think that describes Kenneth Branagh, Shane Black, James Gunn, or Joss Whedon.