Sequels Who think Bryan Singer has come back to stay?

[Angamb]

He has said he spent more than 6 years on this franchise, he loves the characters and the universe, and now he has come back for First class, at least from what he has revealed to date.

so.... Who here thinks he has come back to continue (his)the franchise?

 

[MadVillainy]

until the next Superman film comes up

 

[JP]

Uh, if anything it will be for the First Class Trilogy. There will never be an X4, and there should never be one.

Now, Fox can screw this up and micro manage First Class. In which case Bryan will likely not return to do the potential sequel.

In my dreams, though, Bryan has a fantastic story that can be told in ONE film. I'm tired of these movies being made to set up the next one, and the next one. Three Star Wars prequels where wasted on a story that could have been told in one film.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

I dunno guys. My jury is still out in terms of how I feel about Bryan returning. I love him as a director and I appreciate what he accomplished with the first two X-films. But they never FELT like X-Men to me. Say what you want about Brett, but X3 had the action and heart that the X-Men comics possessed.

I wish I could somehow meld these two minds together and do X-Men Origins. And which characters will he retain for the storyline?

 

[danoyse]

I don't think he's the only director out there that can do a decent X-Men film, but he's done the best job on the films that we have, so I'm glad he's come back. I'm definitely more excited for First Class now that he's back on board.

 

[Angamb]

me too!!

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

I don't think he's the only director out there that can do a decent X-Men film, but he's done the best job on the films that we have, so I'm glad he's come back. I'm definitely more excited for First Class now that he's back on board.

I have to agree with this. At least this announcement puts First Class back on my official radar.

 

[Hellion]

Maybe...just maybe...if First Class is successful...that would lead to an X4...

I'm not holding my breath though...

 

[Angamb]

do you think this movie could make more money than XO: Wolverine?

 

[Deaths Head II]

I would be super happy if it did.

It would prove once and for all that the X-Men are not doomed without Wolverine.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

I dunno guys. My jury is still out in terms of how I feel about Bryan returning. I love him as a director and I appreciate what he accomplished with the first two X-films. But they never FELT like X-Men to me. Say what you want about Brett, but X3 had the action and heart that the X-Men comics possessed.

I wish I could somehow meld these two minds together and do X-Men Origins. And which characters will he retain for the storyline?

Huh? X-3 didn't have no heart or passion. It just stank of a hollow cash in.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

Huh? X-3 didn't have no heart or passion. It just stank of a hollow cash in.

It was a stank of hollow cash in but with heart and action. I didn't say it had passion though. But it was the first time we've ever seen the X-Men actually COOPERATE and work together to bring down a foe. Bryan's films always kept the mutants segregated in dealing with their separate issues too much.

I guess what I'm saying is that X-3's X-Men felt more like a family than in the first two films.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

do you think this movie could make more money than XO: Wolverine?

Absolutely--if they're smart.

If they bring back Scott, Jean, Storm, Hank and perhaps some other interesting characters I think it will be big. They have to keep Logan out of it because this is pre-X1. Which should be interesting considering the death-grip man-crush that Bryan had on the Wolverine/Hugh Jackman character.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

It was a stank of hollow cash in but with heart and action. I didn't say it had passion though. But it was the first time we've ever seen the X-Men actually COOPERATE and work together to bring down a foe. Bryan's films always kept the mutants segregated in dealing with their separate issues too much.

I guess what I'm saying is that X-3's X-Men felt more like a family than in the first two films.

Sorry LS I disagree.

When did they work together in X-3? It was Wolverine and Wolverine alone who saved the day.

In X-1 it was a team effort at Liberty Island.

In X-2 it was a team effort to rescue the kids and Prof X.

 

[FaT_tONle]

X-3 had heart? Must have watched a different movie. That was basically a sequel to Wolverine. He was basically barking orders at the other mutants at the end and doing his own thing. Everyone was doing their own thing in that movie. No development outside of Logan.

 

[Angamb]

I think he means that we saw them together on the danger room, the funeral and the final battle.

but X3 hasn't a family touch. The only character that interacted with the rest was Wolverine.

If you watch the movie again, you'll see:

Wolverine talking to Collosus & Rogue (two short quotes on the danger room)
Wolverine talking to Storm
Wolverine talking to Scott
Wolverine talking to Xavier and Beast
Wolverine talking to Jean
Wolverine talking to Rogue
and the list goes on and on

I hate that.

 

[Project862006]

well fox gave 2 other guys a chance and they blew so for me singer is the only guy who can do it

singer gives x men characters and heart something that was missing in last 2 x men films

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Gavin Hood didn't blow it, interfering Fox execs blew it. You can attribute the good things of Wolverine (very few admittedly) to Gavin Hood.

 

[Project862006]

Well i guess so the film felt so rushed and the wolverine character was suppose to be at his darkest when to me it was at his lightest. I felt singer did a better job in his flash backs to wolverine's past then the whole wolverine movie did.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Agreed. But Wolverine's faults were with the writers and execs. Not Hood.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

I think some of you are missing my point: I'm not saying that Bryan cannot inject heart and great characterization into his X-films but he also needs to up the Fantasy/Action element, remembering that these are superheroes. I feel that his first two films were epic (for what Fox's cheapskates allowed with the budget) but it was too grounded in reality. X3 excelled in that area: It was truly a fantastic, epic action story about superheroes. It totally f***ed up MANY things too, but it did get the comic book actiony theme right for once.

No one can tell me that it was not all kinds of awesome when Logan engaged the Brotherhood (with Storm spinning like a goddamn top across the lawn) at Jean's house...or when Jean took on Professor Xavier herself. Or perhaps when Magneto uprooted the Golden Gate Bridge...or when the X-Men literally descended unto the battle at Alcatraz.

That. Is. X-Men.

And if Singer is going to be successful with this franchise he needs to infuse the good work he's done before WITH those fantastical elements.

 

[Deaths Head II]

It's funny because supposedly Singer was going to make Phoenix a full on god in X3 like in the comics.

So all the compliments for Ratner kind of get trumped by that for me. In the end, it was Ratner who restricted the Phoenix's character.

 

[Project862006]

I think some of you are missing my point: I'm not saying that Bryan cannot inject heart and great characterization into his X-films but he also needs to up the Fantasy/Action element, remembering that these are superheroes. I feel that his first two films were epic (for what Fox's cheapskates allowed with the budget) but it was too grounded in reality. X3 excelled in that area: It was truly a fantastic, epic action story about superheroes. It totally f***ed up MANY things too, but it did get the comic book actiony theme right for once.

No one can tell me that it was not all kinds of awesome when Logan engaged the Brotherhood (with Storm spinning like a goddamn top across the lawn) at Jean's house...or when Jean took on Professor Xavier herself. Or perhaps when Magneto uprooted the Golden Gate Bridge...or when the X-Men literally descended unto the battle at Alcatraz.

That. Is. X-Men.

And if Singer is going to be successful with this franchise he needs to infuse the good work he's done before WITH those fantastical elements.

i agree with you that is one of the only things x3 did well it was up the acton/cgi/fantasy/ aspect but sacrificed story and character hopefully singer can do both

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

It's funny because supposedly Singer was going to make Phoenix a full on god in X3 like in the comics.

So all the compliments for Ratner kind of get trumped by that for me. In the end, it was Ratner who restricted the Phoenix's character.

I think it was more FOX than Ratner. FOX is the one that took out so many of the legs under the Phoenix table so it couldn't support itself (ergo, killing off Jean Grey, SCOTT--for Chrst's sake) and Xavier). Those were studio decisions fueld by jealousy against Singer and Marden's defecting to WB.

Stupid.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

I will say this though: If they even try to figure out some way to reference Logan in this First Class film I will f***ing walk out of the theatre.

And I mean that.