whos to blame? fox, ratner , writers?

whos to blame

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fox for be money hungry impatient C****. The writers for forgetting emotion, character and adding dialogue full of gayness. Rattner for saying he loved singers x-men films and saying he will keep x3 close to what the 1st 2 films were like. He didnt do this........apart from the cast this film had C**** written all over it. even tho u could blame the actors for not saying something seen as tho they should have been use to what xmen films should have been after doing 2 of the.
 
last time I saw X3...I didn't see any cock written throughout the movie. lol. Im sure the actors had some say in their parts but to get with the big picture, the one to blame is Fox. They're too busy sticking their hands down Wolverine's pants, stuffing money down there- to care about anything else other than those two things I mentioned.

now that is what I call an analogy. lol
 
Theweepeople said:
What I found to be even more incredible was Wolverine's statement to Jean before he kills her? "I would die for you" right before he sticks his claws into her. That has to be one of the most hokey lines of dialogue I've heard in a comic book film.

You know something, Wolverine shocked Jean with the word "no not for them but for you". And then delivered the final punchline with "I Love you"

I bet you I could shock Jean even more using Wolverine using TWO words...
 
and Then I'd say to him, "F*** OFF!" and as Cyclops, shoot an optic beam at her and she dies in my arms...slowly
 
DarknessOfDeath said:
and Then I'd say to him, "F*** OFF!" and as Cyclops, shoot an optic beam at her and she dies in my arms...slowly

Nope, that's not it. I'm telling you right now. Without changing anything else that was said in the film or scene by the audience, I betcha I could snap Jean back to reality by having Wolverine say just TWO words to her.
 
Neto Magnus said:
hey, onDgrind, can you put this in your first post?

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LMFAO:up:
 
ntcrawler said:
Nope, that's not it. I'm telling you right now. Without changing anything else that was said in the film or scene by the audience, I betcha I could snap Jean back to reality by having Wolverine say just TWO words to her.

What two words?
 
AVEITWITHJAMON said:
What two words?

Jean: "You would die for them?"
Logan: "No not for them. For you"
Jean: "Save me..."
Logan: "Scott's Alive!"

That should shake her up and stir her back to her senses than anything else. The look on her face would be precious.
 
Neto Magnus said:
I would print it out, frame it and mail it to the devil himself. But i don't have his address.
We should ask Retroman, he's the detective here.
 
writers writers writers. But I'd put in a collective blame for fox and the director too.
 
I definitely blame the writers for this one:

You know, looking at some clips from X2 and X3 regarding Jean, and seeing what happens in X3 or what the writers are implying, it really disgusts me.

For months after sacrificing herself, she's crying out to Scott, begging for his help. He sees feels her pain, sees the terror she's in, this endless nightmare of dying over and over again. She's calling out to him, and he responds. His love and faith is strong, even against all odds. She wanted to be saved, and he was there for her.
And to imply that she would kill him just disgusts me. This vision that the writers have, has got to be one of the worst examples of betrayal and backstabbing in cinema history. This is beyond evil. This is beyond cold. This is beyond wrong.

If it was me, if I was one of the people she rescued at Alkali Lake, I'd rather die than to go on knowing my life was saved by a monster.
 
Who can you blame but Fox?!? They let Singer slip through their fingers and hired Ratner to chop up a thrown together plot.

Fox owes it to us, the fans, to do a X4.... and give Storm a long, Goddess-like plethora of hair, blue eyes, and Remy.

Is that too much to ask?
 
Voli23 said:
Who can you blame but Fox?!? They let Singer slip through their fingers and hired Ratner to chop up a thrown together plot.

Fox owes it to us, the fans, to do a X4.... and give Storm a long, Goddess-like plethora of hair, blue eyes, and Remy.

Is that too much to ask?

They'd rather you settle for some eye candy and a few catchy phrases (ie the fastball special and "Juggernaut, *****")
 
I like the eye candy, but won't settle for it. :)

What's the fastball special?
 
Voli23 said:
I like the eye candy, but won't settle for it. :)

What's the fastball special?

Classic move used by chars in the comics. Colossus picks up Wolverine and THROWS him at the enemy, baring his claws. It's been a popular thing for at least 10-15 years. They used that move twice in the movie.
 
Voli23 said:
Who can you blame but Fox?!? They let Singer slip through their fingers and hired Ratner to chop up a thrown together plot.

Fox owes it to us, the fans, to do a X4.... and give Storm a long, Goddess-like plethora of hair, blue eyes, and Remy.

Is that too much to ask?

I'd rather they just stopped making X-Movies and let the rights go back to marvel, but that'll never happen either.
 
The writers and the greedy producers!!! Ugh!!!! They ruined every major character in the movie except for Magneto!
 
AVEITWITHJAMON said:
I'd rather they just stopped making X-Movies and let the rights go back to marvel, but that'll never happen either.

OH! So Marvel didn't get to have any say in any of the X-men movies, or was it just X3? :confused:

Out of all of the X-men movies, I liked X2 the best... So, if they could do a X4 as good or better than X2, I'm all for it. BUT, if they just throw something at us, trying to be greedy penny-pinchers, I'm with you; Fox can take that X4 and shove it.
 
Why does Singer get to get away with the stuff he did like haveing two X-men movies and not being able to make Cyclops a strong leader we care about, not focusing enough on Jean and Scott as having a strong loving relationship that we care about, a useless whinny Rogue, no prior relationships between Rogue, Mystique, or Nightcrawler, having Wolverine be the center of both movies, a weak Storm and Jean, weak action scenes, and an unexplained reason as to why Jean got off the jet in X2. And by the way Magneto's machine is not any better than the cure nor was it developed any better and the reason they had Jean kill Cyclops off was to show how out of control her powers were and that no one was safe.
 
cronosred said:
Why does Singer get to get away with the stuff he did like haveing two X-men movies and not being able to make Cyclops a strong leader we care about, not focusing enough on Jean and Scott as having a strong loving relationship that we care about,

Their relationship was supposed to be discrete. I know what you mean though, more scenes of them in private would have been nice. Cyclops didn't get to be a leader in X2 mainly because he drew the short straw and it was his turn to be kidnapped and beaten to submission. It happens to all the characters, even the strong leaders.


a useless whinny Rogue, no prior relationships between Rogue, Mystique, or Nightcrawler, having Wolverine be the center of both movies,

Well in his defense there was better balance between Wolverine and the rest of the team in X1. X2 was obviously a Wolverine story. X3 was SUPPOSED to be a story that focuses on Jean and Scott. What else could the Phoenix story be? How they managed to make it a story between Jean and Logan I can't imagine. Which is exactly why it didn't work out and looks so messed up in the first place. It's supposed to be Romeo and Juliet, not Romeo and Mercutio :P

a weak Storm and Jean, weak action scenes, and an unexplained reason as to why Jean got off the jet in X2.

We know the reasons, all the reasons why she got off the plane as well as the ultimate reason why she chose to die instead of letting anyone rescue her. I'd be happy to chat about it with you and anyone else who's interested. It could have been a wonderful subplot for X3, let the characters explore these reasons and then finally ultimately answer the question at the end. But obviously X3 chose to ignore it completely. And after Scott was removed from the plot and Jean apparently dead at the end of the film, it really didn't matter anymore, did it? Such a shame. What a waste.

And by the way Magneto's machine is not any better than the cure nor was it developed any better and the reason they had Jean kill Cyclops off was to show how out of control her powers were and that no one was safe.

And it was completely out of character. Jean's compassion and love for her friends and Scott are supposed to be stronger than her insanity or her powers. Of all the people she could have knocked around, Scott would have been the last person she'd do this to. The fact that she did it to him first, especially in an intimate moment like that is proof of how messed up this movie is. That scene didn't show how Jean was so out of control. It showed how the writers were out of control :)

BTW, Jean's powers were not out of control. Not anymore so than the other chars. There are other characters who are dangerous too. Professor Xavier is the world's most powerful telepath. not due to bragging rights but as a fact. He can control anyone's mind on the planet, or using Cerebro he can kill them all. Yet you don't see him clutching his head screaming "NO!!! TOO MUCH POWER!!! CAN"T CONTROL IT!!!". Same deal with Storm. Storm's powers are linked directly to her emotions just like Jean's. When Storm gets pissed off = hurricane Katrina. Yet you don't see Storm clutching her head screaming "can't control it!!! TOO MUCH POWER!!! HELP ME!!!" either. If they can learn to be calm and control it, so can Jean. Otherwise you either have Leech sit next to her or give her a Cure injection, or a really big hug from Rogue. Rogue gives killer hugs you know :)
 
Blame myself for expecting this film to live up to the rest of the franchise.
 

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