Infinity War Whose lack of screentime were you most disappointed with?

[RockSP]

The Russos clearly thought BP would not be a box office hit. I think they expected it to be a small success so didn't bother with Wakanda, which they portray as a medieval nation with no air force or Millitary tech.

Look at how Captain Marvel is getting much more push than Black Panther who is treated as a minor C-list character in both Avengers movies while Carol gets a big role in Avengers 4.

Its pretty revealing.

Well no one...including the Russos...had any way of knowing it would be as big as it was. But saying they portrayed Wakanda as a medieval nation is a pointless fabrication. Medieval nations have forcefields and laser spears?

Several long time Avengers are barely in the movie so it's not just BP who had little screen time.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I've studied film too, and The Great Gatsby barely counts as a blockbuster film. It wasn't made for a casual audience, it was made for film critics, experts and students. It may have had a big budget, but it's still arthouse.

The production budget of The Great Gatsby was $105 million according to BOM. That is a blockbuster budget. Not an art house film budget. $105 million is more expensive than many CBMs.

 

[BullMcGiveny]

The Russos clearly thought BP would not be a box office hit. I think they expected it to be a small success so didn't bother with Wakanda, which they portray as a medieval nation with no air force or Millitary tech.

To be fair, most movies, even the ones with white people, usually have military being very inept. Remember The Avengers where the ANG never showed up?

 

[Jake_Snake]

medieval nation with force fields, high tech weapons and the only place in the world that has capabilities to remove a very complex procedure on an androids forehead

 

[Jake_Snake]

I disagree, she is more than capable of headlining big films. I would totally hire her as a lead in any movie.

that would probably flop tbh. ive seen her work and outside of MCU she doesn’t have the charisma to be the main lead on a big production movie.

 

[DalekbusterFitz]

The Great Gatsby must have been the most commercial arthouse film ever

I get what maybe you're going for. But that flick was probably 1 of the top 15 most anticipated of the year. Mulligan getting billed 2nd/3rd after DiCaprio is a huge WIN for her. She def doesn't seem to chase the spotlight or the $$$ roles.

Most anticipated among film students, film experts and film critics but not the general audience. No casual audience member would ever have been saying 'I can't wait to see The Great Gatsby', they'd have been going to see Iron Man 3 or Fast And Furious 6 instead.

 

[DalekbusterFitz]

The production budget of The Great Gatsby was $105 million according to BOM. That is a blockbuster budget. Not an art house film budget. $105 million is more expensive than many CBMs.

Both Blade Runner films had big budgets too. Doesn't mean they're not arthouse and made for film students, experts and critics rather than a general audience. My point is that Karen Gillan appears in films casual moviegoers see, whereas Carey Mulligan has yet to appear in a typical 'popcorn' movie blockbuster.

 

[DalekbusterFitz]

that would probably flop tbh. ive seen her work and outside of MCU she doesn’t have the charisma to be the main lead on a big production movie.

I completely disagree. Karen Gillan is the most charismatic actor from the country where I live of the UK who has gone on to do Hollywood films.

 

[martijndepro]

Both Blade Runner films had big budgets too. Doesn't mean they're not arthouse and made for film students, experts and critics rather than a general audience. My point is that Karen Gillan appears in films casual moviegoers see, whereas Carey Mulligan has yet to appear in a typical 'popcorn' movie blockbuster.

Because a studio such as Warner Bros. provides Blade Runner 2049 with a 150 million budget to insipre film students? They need to hire expensive A/A- actors to provide experts and critics with...?

Also, The Great Gasby released in 3.055 theaters and Blade Runner 2049 in 4.058 to Infinity War's record breaking 4.474. Point being: these are movies made solely for an audience big enough to make a profit. An 'alternative' story and premiss doesn't equal arthouse.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Both Blade Runner films had big budgets too. Doesn't mean they're not arthouse and made for film students, experts and critics rather than a general audience. My point is that Karen Gillan appears in films casual moviegoers see, whereas Carey Mulligan has yet to appear in a typical 'popcorn' movie blockbuster.

Blade Runner 2049 was 100% made to make money and bank off the fact Blade Runner became a cult classic. It was not made just for art house people.

 

[Relugus]

medieval nation with force fields, high tech weapons and the only place in the world that has capabilities to remove a very complex procedure on an androids forehead

And the only place with no air force, no combat vehicles (they have hover troop carriers yet no tanks? Really?)

 

[spider-neil]

Blade Runner 2049 was 100% made to make money and bank off the fact Blade Runner became a cult classic. It was not made just for art house people.

Warner Brothers know that Blade Runner will be a slow burn and find its market on home video. No way on this earth did they think think a slow three hour existential thinking man's movie was going to be a box office hit. If they thought that then they're stupid.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Warner Brothers know that Blade Runner will be a slow burn and find its market on home video. No way on this earth did they think think a slow three hour existential thinking man's movie was going to be a box office hit. If they thought that then they're stupid.

You don't invest over $100 mil for a movie that will lose money in the short term. That my friend is called bad business. They just completely overestimated the film's appeal.

 

[spider-neil]

You don't invest over $100 mil for a movie that will lose money in the short term. That my friend is called bad business. They just completely overestimated the film's appeal.

We'll never know but I'd be surprised if they thought the movie was going to make them a ton of money right out of the gate. After all, the original didn't.

 

[Spider-Fan]

We'll never know but I'd be surprised if they thought the movie was going to make them a ton of money right out of the gate. After all, the original didn't.

Not at the time, but it has gone on to become a cult classic. I think they just overestimated how popular the film is now.

 

[spider-neil]

Not at the time, but it has gone on to become a cult classic. I think they just overestimated how popular the film is now.

The original flopped and was a slow burn. No reason the new one can't follow a similar path.

 

[Spider-Fan]

The original flopped and was a slow burn. No reason the new one can't follow a similar path.

No but you don't invest over $100 million dollars for that. You invest that type of money to make money now. It may follow that same trajectory, but that doesn't mean that was their initial goal.

 

[spider-neil]

No but you don't invest over $100 million dollars for that. You invest that type of money to make money now. It may follow that same trajectory, but that doesn't mean that was their initial goal.

Then WB are idiots because BR was never going to be huge out the gate.

 

[DalekbusterFitz]

Blade Runner 2049 was 100% made to make money and bank off the fact Blade Runner became a cult classic. It was not made just for art house people.

No film that's designed to be thought-provoking is ever made for a mass audience. It's not conventional Hollywood 101.

 

[NotNickFury]

Welcome to the Blade Runner 2049 thread, I suppose?

 

[spider-neil]

Welcome to the Blade Runner 2049 thread, I suppose?

Whose lack of screentime were you most disappointed with?

Dekkard.

 

[The Sand Master]

Most anticipated among film students, film experts and film critics but not the general audience. No casual audience member would ever have been saying 'I can't wait to see The Great Gatsby', they'd have been going to see Iron Man 3 or Fast And Furious 6 instead.

You obviously don't have a clue. The film is based on a well established and extremely popular American literature novel by F. Scott Fitzgerald.
The 2013 film was the fifth adaptation to be filmed.
The amount of 'film critics, experts and students' wouldn't even make a dent in the returns of $353 million it made worldwide from the general/casual audience.

 

[DalekbusterFitz]

You obviously don't have a clue. The film is based on a well established and extremely popular American literature novel by F. Scott Fitzgerald.
The 2013 film was the fifth adaptation to be filmed.
The amount of 'film critics, experts and students' wouldn't even make a dent in the returns of $353 million it made worldwide from the general/casual audience.

I disagree. If you asked any casual audience member if they were going to see 'The Great Gatsby' when it was released, they'd have said 'No, we're going to see Iron Man 3/Fast And Furious 6'. The Great Gatsby was simply Oscar bait.

 

[zephyrinthesky]

Newsflash, nobody cares about the definition of a "blockbuster" on this forum.

I'm interested to see what kind of direction the arcs of Cap, Widow, Hulk, Hawkeye and other ignored characters receive in Avengers 4. The screenwriters basically acknowledged that any dialogue or scenes that weren't purely linked to the stones was chopped from IW. Does that mean we'll get a slower-paced, introspective tone in A4?

 

[Havok83]