Why does Superman even treat Jimmy better then Conner or a few other heroes

[Superman_]

I mean this past issue he was all but ready to vote Jimmy into the JLA. I mean WTF man.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Because Jimmy ain't no stinkin' clone, ese.

 

[Harlekin]

Because he's Jimmy for the majority of his adult life.

 

[Anubis]

Basically. Clones are weird, why should he treat Kon El like a son? He was like a walking, talking, leftover tissue sample. That's just too weird, even for Superman.

 

[The Caped Knight]

Because Jimmy ain't no stinkin' clone, ese.

I think it goes deeper than that since (Clark learned that Half of Conner's DNA is of Lex Luthor)

 

[The_Mystery]

Did Clark ever learn that Conner was from half his DNA? What issue of what book did this take place in?

 

[Manic]

Really, it's because Conner was a clone. He wasn't natural. He was a life that was never meant to be. So Clark tried to get along with him, but some part of him couldn't get over the whole "test tube" thing.

Meanwhile, Jimmy is one of Clark's closest friends.

 

[The_Mystery]

I'm pretty sure Supes regrets the distance he put emotionally between him and Conner now. Remember how pissed he looked when he arrived at Conner's death and then he kinda just craddled his dead body. Yeah, Clark probably feels like a prick.

 

[BrianWilly]

Did Clark ever learn that Conner was from half his DNA? What issue of what book did this take place in?

He did, in Superman #220. He was all hissy-fitty at first about Conner not telling him, but then he's like "It's okay I can see your SOUL."

EDIT: Oh, you mean his DNA and not Lex's? He's always known. He's known for as long as Superboy has.

EDITx2: This is a retcon, however. Originally, Conner had no part Kryptonian DNA and was just a human clone with rendered Supermanish traits. He was only a clone of Superman in spirit, I guess, not actual biology. This was the case all through Superboy's own solo series and Young Justice run.

Then when Geoff Johns' Teen Titans started, he slyly retconned it so that Conner is as much as 50% Kryptonian with Clark's DNA. Conner mentions to Superman in Teen Titans #1, and it's treated as if it's always been this way. It's not, but it is now.

 

[The_Mystery]

Oh. okay, thanks.

 

[The Caped Knight]

Does anyone else think it's a cop out on the writters part that the only reason Jimmy Olsen now knows Clark Kent is SUPERMAN . Is because of his new founded Super powers . Instead of clark telling Jimmy himself ?

 

[Manic]

Does anyone else think it's a cop out on the writters part that the only reason Jimmy Olsen now knows Clark Kent is SUPERMAN . Is because of his new founded Super powers . Instead of clark telling Jimmy himself ?

Ehh... I still stand by my "Lois & Jimmy always knew, but pretended not to so Clark wouldn't feel stupid" theory. I can understand Joey Joe-Joe from down the block not knowing, but Jimmy is both Clark and Superman's best "normal" friend. At some point, he had to notice.

 

[Tropico]

I mean this past issue he was all but ready to vote Jimmy into the JLA. I mean WTF man.

Kon was almost as abrasive as Supergirl for most of of his life. Then, there's the clone thing. Plus, it wasn't all Kal's fault, it wasn't like Kon reached out to him. Kal tried to give him a foster family in Ma & Pa Kent but he kept running away and blowing them off. How would you feel?

His friendship with Jimmy has been more organic and there are bonds there that were never developed with Kon. Besides, now we're supposed to believe that all those Silver Age stories happened and Jimmy has had powers and been on adventures with Supes? I guess that gives Jimmy credibility in Kal's eyes, I don't know.

 

[BrianWilly]

When did he ever run away from the Kents? And blowing them off?

 

[The_Mystery]

^He just ran away from the responsibilities of a normal life. He seemed to genuinely care about the Kents.

 

[Tropico]

When did he ever run away from the Kents? And blowing them off?

More than once in Teen Titans, you know, when he no longer had a title to call his own so it was (practically) the only character development he got. He even cut school. And, just in case, he DID need to go to school since we saw years back that he had reached a point in his growth where his pre-programmed education stopped.

 

[The_Mystery]

^Once again, he wasn't running away from the Kents, just the responsibilities of a normal young man who lives with elder relatives.

 

[BrianWilly]

More than once in Teen Titans, you know, when he no longer had a title to call his own so it was (practically) the only character development he got. He even cut school. And, just in case, he DID need to go to school since we saw years back that he had reached a point in his growth where his pre-programmed education stopped.

In the very same issue that this happened, we saw that Clark had cut school in the past too. Ma Kent understood. Clark didn't begrudge Conner any of his teen angst from living on a farm. In fact, that was during a time period when Clark and Conner actually were beginning to connect with each other and Clark did take an active interest in Conner's life.

He never ran away from them, or ever blow them off. He felt cramped living on the farm and he btched about it and acted out in normal teenage ways...but he never, ever took it out in any way on the Kents and was never anything but gracious to them. In the last issue of Superboy when Superman brought him to the Kents, he was genuinely touched and told Clark that he wouldn't let him down.

 

[Tropico]

In the very same issue that this happened, we saw that Clark had cut school in the past too. Ma Kent understood. Clark didn't begrudge Conner any of his teen angst from living on a farm. In fact, that was during a time period when Clark and Conner actually were beginning to connect with each other and Clark did take an active interest in Conner's life.

He never ran away from them, or ever blow them off. He felt cramped living on the farm and he btched about it and acted out in normal teenage ways...but he never, ever took it out in any way on the Kents and was never anything but gracious to them. In the last issue of Superboy when Superman brought him to the Kents, he was genuinely touched and told Clark that he wouldn't let him down.

Let me make something clear, I haven't said that he took it out on them; I didn't say he was completely ungracious to them. But he DID do stuff that they told him NOT to do and would sometimes NOT do stuff they told him to do. If disobeying what someone told you isn't blowing them off then it's obvious I have the wrong concept of what the word means aside from the people I know. Is it normal teenage behavior? Mostly, yes. Is it understandable? Mostly, yes. Does it cancel out that it was bad behavior? C'mon, you all know the answer is 'no'.

And it's also common knowledge that Kal was somewhat frustrated that, apparently, what worked for him didn't work for Kon. That's what I meant by "How would you feel?" To have all these weird issues with the kid and then what you're trying to do to help out kinda isn't working out either. Jeez! Let me spell it out, I don't think Kon is all bad and that he's solely what he started out as. But we ALL know he wasn't always what he blossomed into in the Titans so there are more than enough reasons to see how he could relate to Jimmy better.

 

[BrianWilly]

You make it sound like Clark was having all these issues with how Conner was behaving with the Kents. He didn't. None whatsoever. He was very understanding and supportive of Conner during those times. Obviously he didn't support Conner outright skipping school, but he wasn't pissed about it or whatever; he saw that the boy needed help and he gave it to him in the form of the the Kents, the Titans, and Krypto. I'm really not sure where you're reading the frustration from, much less the fact that it's common knowledge.

Don't get me wrong; I know there were lots of times when Clark's treatment of Conner was less than stellar. His time with the Kents just wasn't one of them.

 

[Nathan]

Jimmy Olson has Super Powers?

 

[BrianWilly]

Yeah, it's been a significant plot point in Countdown which you may or may not want to read. Actually, let me just answer that: you may not want to read it.

Basically Jimmy has been spontaneously sprouting his silver age wacky superpowers in times of danger, and for now no one (including him or us) has any idea why it's happening.

 

[Eros]

Ehh... I still stand by my "Lois & Jimmy always knew, but pretended not to so Clark wouldn't feel stupid" theory. I can understand Joey Joe-Joe from down the block not knowing, but Jimmy is both Clark and Superman's best "normal" friend. At some point, he had to notice.

LOL.

 

[Speedball]

Jimmy's the little brother Clark never had.

 

[BrianWilly]

Which...should have been Conner. In fact, it was Conner. He was, genetically, Clark's younger twin brother!