Why I think Cyclops is still alive

[WorthyStevens]

Just because fanboys want it to be like the comics where mutants never die, doesn't mean it should be that way on screen. You're right, Jean and Scott were the first, so it's actually fitting that they are dead. Storm inherits the school as is discussed in the hallway with Xavier. The next trilogy, if there is one, therefore isn't constrained by anything in the first trilogy.

They don't show her killing him. There's always a way he can come back.

 

[Sun_Down]

We've seen one mutant regain his powers after being cured, we've seen one mutant come back from the dead, we don't need any more stuff like that. Xavier and Magneto's situations worked well enough, but to bring Scott back would just be too much, IMO.

 

[The Riddler]

and if she did kill scott, why didnt we see that when she was remembering what happened at the lake?

i was thinking exactly this.

 

[The Batman]

Just because fanboys want it to be like the comics where mutants never die, doesn't mean it should be that way on screen. You're right, Jean and Scott were the first, so it's actually fitting that they are dead. Storm inherits the school as is discussed in the hallway with Xavier. The next trilogy, if there is one, therefore isn't constrained by anything in the first trilogy.

Well, the fact of the matter is, we never see scott die. That, and the fact that fox knows how pissed off scott fans were, and the fact that marsden would come back, and the fact that THE WRITERS AND DIRECTOR alluded to scott coming back, AND the fact that, if there is an X4, they wont just rely on the x kids means that....scott will probably be in X4. Thats just the way it is.

 

[Boiiinng]

and if she did kill scott, why didnt we see that when she was remembering what happened at the lake?

See above post. It's called drama. You don't give away similar deaths early in a film, or before the more impactful one. It creates tension and mystery.

 

[The Batman]

OR....the writers left the door open for scott to return.

an "out" as it was referred to months ago....

 

[Boiiinng]

Well, the fact of the matter is, we never see scott die. That, and the fact that fox knows how pissed off scott fans were, and the fact that marsden would come back, and the fact that THE WRITERS AND DIRECTOR alluded to scott coming back, AND the fact that, if there is an X4, they wont just rely on the x kids means that....scott will probably be in X4. Thats just the way it is.

Do you work on the films? That must be awesome to know exactly what's going to happen on the next film which may not even go into production until 2009.

Oh and Xavier tells Jean she killed Scott. I'm sure he wouldn't say that unless he no longer felt his presence in the world.

 

[WorthyStevens]

Do you work on the films? That must be awesome to know exactly what's going to happen on the next film which may not even go into production until 2009.

He said probably. Not definitely.

 

[The Batman]

Just like you act like scott is straight up DEAD?

 

[Sun_Down]

Well, the fact of the matter is, we never see scott die. That, and the fact that fox knows how pissed off scott fans were, and the fact that marsden would come back, and the fact that THE WRITERS AND DIRECTOR alluded to scott coming back, AND the fact that, if there is an X4, they wont just rely on the x kids means that....scott will probably be in X4. Thats just the way it is.

That's not the way it is. In fact, that's the exact opposite of the way it is. They might pull some stupid fanboy-appeasing stunt and bring him back, but the man is dead. If he wasn't, Jean or Xavier would have known.

 

[Boiiinng]

OR....the writers left the door open for scott to return.

an "out" as it was referred to months ago....

I have no problems with "outs," but bringing back Scott without also bringing back Jean would be wasteful. It's obvious he only lived for her in the film. Without her, he would have no purpose.

 

[The Batman]

well, thats your opinion. mine is, its still up in the air. Period.

 

[The Riddler]

See above post. It's called drama. You don't give away similar deaths early in a film, or before the more impactful one. It creates tension and mystery.

yeah but the didn't need to show it the same way.

any sign he died would've been easily done.

instead, they showed nothing telling of his fate.

 

[WorthyStevens]

That's not the way it is. In fact, that's the exact opposite of the way it is. They might pull some stupid fanboy-appeasing stunt and bring him back, but the man is dead. If he wasn't, Jean or Xavier would have known.

Jean's all messed up and who knows with Xavier.

The point is, if he isn't SHOWN dead, there's always a way to bring him back.

 

[The Batman]

I have no problems with "outs," but bringing back Scott without also bringing back Jean would be wasteful. It's obvious he only lived for her in the film. Without her, he would have no purpose.

Because we all know scotts world revolved around jean, even though in the comics, we've seen scott move on repeatedly, even marrying.

 

[Boiiinng]

well, thats your opinion. mine is, its still up in the air. Period.

"Up in the air" but also "That's the way it is."

Get your story straight.

 

[The Batman]

"Up in the air" but also "That's the way it is."

Get your story straight.

Yup, the way it is is that his fate is undecided.

 

[Sun_Down]

You guys never cease to amaze me. You can really convince yourselves of anything when you don't like the truth. Remember the running time fiasco? Or "the effects are unfinished"? You're kidding yourselves...again.

 

[WorthyStevens]

You guys never cease to amaze me. You can really convince yourselves of anything when you don't like the truth. Remember the running time fiasco? Or "the effects are unfinished"? You're kidding yourselves...again.

They don't show him dying, he's not dead.

 

[The Batman]

well, you bring proof that cyke is dead, lemme know, ok sundown?

 

[Sun_Down]

They don't show him dying, he's not dead.

well, you bring proof that cyke is dead, lemme know, ok sundown?

LMFAO, you guys are making my argument for me. Need I really say more?

 

[Boiiinng]

well, you bring proof that cyke is dead, lemme know, ok sundown?

Jean says "Kill me before I kill someone else."

Xavier says "You killed Scott."

Jean kills Xavier who only kept himself together by mind power which Scott does not have.

 

[WorthyStevens]

Why again does Jean/Phoenix faint after "killing" Scott, but not when she kills Xavier, nor any of the soldiers/mutants she kills at the end?

 

[Boiiinng]

Why again does Jean/Phoenix faint after "killing" Scott, but not when she kills Xavier, nor any of the soldiers/mutants she kills at the end?

Some have said it's the first time she uses the full breadth of her discorporating power so that's why she's out. But she more than faints, she's far away from where it happened.

 

[Sun_Down]

Why again does Jean/Phoenix faint after "killing" Scott, but not when she kills Xavier, nor any of the soldiers/mutants she kills at the end?

Dude, all you're doing is proving your own point wrong. It would take much more exertion on Jean's part to kill Scott than it would to not kill him. She probably just fainted because she was still fragile from being in the lake so long or because it was emotionally intense for her.