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Why I think Cyclops is still alive

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Coreo said:
Cyclops is a goner. Xavier sensed it right when it happened. Did you see the look on his face? Then at Jean's house, he said, "Jean, you killed Scott...the man you loved." If Cyclops was dead, he would indeed be the one to know! He's the world's most powerful telepath! And another thing, Jean herself realized she killed Scott. She has a psychic connection with him I'm sure!
In the comics wasn't Xavier sure Cyclops was dead when he merged with Apocalyse even though Jean refused to believe it? Who ended up being right?
 
msnatchios hes dead, the movie aint the comics. I dun see why thats so hard to grasp.
 
Eros said:
msnatchios hes dead, the movie aint the comics. I dun see why thats so hard to grasp.
Eros, I "dun" see why you can't grasp that the movie is derived from the comics.
 
cyclops is not dead, he's hovering unconscious right above where logan and storm found jean, they just didn't see him... remember how things in the surrounding area are levitating, including scott's glasses?

so i guess, he keeps hovering unconscious there and nobody found him, not until X4...
 
darthbakpao said:
cyclops is not dead, he's hovering unconscious right above where logan and storm found jean, they just didn't see him... remember how things in the surrounding area are levitating, including scott's glasses?

so i guess, he keeps hovering unconscious there and nobody found him, not until X4...

...In a cocoon of optic energy?
 
I've heard rumors that Cyclops is still alive because of another alternative ending showed in parts of the world. Any truth to this?
 
MsNatchios said:
Eros, I "dun" see why you can't grasp that the movie is derived from the comics.

"Derived" does not mean "copied" either.
 
CapBeerCino said:
...In a cocoon of optic energy?

haha!! It will be a very stupid reason when he arrives back alive in X4
 
Cyclops....must return. I think they intentionally didnt show his death on screen.

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Amm-arD said:
Yeah, a bit like the ending of X3, blatantly Magento will regain all of his powers for x4.Just like Cyclops is not dead and will return in X4..Now, if only they can get back Proff X??!


Prof X isn't dead he moved his consciousness to another body, for god sakes the man was smiling before jean blew him up. This is something that has been done in the comics by a few different telepaths, which is also why Psylocke wouldn't be dead if they want to use her. Even though it was shown that Jean killed her(although it was never mentioned to be her in the film) she can come back. I think the best way to maybe go for a next film and to get Xavier 's body back may be to use a level 5 mutant like Proteus. With Moira's involvement in X3 it would be the logical step to go. It would be easy for Proteus to make Xavier a new body or make the one he's in look like his old self.

Telepaths that has have body hoped has been Jean Grey, Betsy Braddock, Shadow King, Gamemaster, Emma Frost, and Prof X that I recall. i may be wrong and not a 100 percent sure but i think Cable did it.
 
I think that he may be dead but he might be resurected, along with Jean by Sinister to set up for the next trilogy. I think the people that said he didn't die because you didn't really see him die have a point. Phoenix didn't even destroy him like everybody else. When she killed other people she was looking at them and her face was totally concerntrating on demolecularizing them while with Cyke it looked like she "killed" him with Rogue's power.
 
X-Gal123 said:
I think that he may be dead but he might be resurected, along with Jean by Sinister to set up for the next trilogy. I think the people that said he didn't die because you didn't really see him die have a point. Phoenix didn't even destroy him like everybody else. When she killed other people she was looking at them and her face was totally concerntrating on demolecularizing them while with Cyke it looked like she "killed" him with Rogue's power.

Exactly. It looked like the scene in X2 where Rogue is kissing Iceman. Well whatever the point is that he was not shown and since many people are commenting about his death then they could come up with something since they really didn't show him die.
 
Well, I can see it going either way, because while the possibilities are strong that she kills him, her "Kill me before I kill again" line only comes after Wolverine shows her the glasses and asks where Cyclops is. What the wild card is is how aware is Jean Grey of her actions when she turns into Dark Phoenix. If she is only vaguely aware of what was happening, she could have been aware that while she was kissing him her unconscious mind took over and not known the details--thus, seeing the glasses makes her believe that she in fact did kill him even though she's unsure.

And there's no way Professor Xavier can know for sure since he's having a hard enough time finding out where she is from all the psychic interference she's running.

Furthermore, I think it's possible (though highly unlikely) that once Cyclops realized something was wrong with Jean, he may have instinctively opened his eyes, and she being only somewhat awakened and not focusing on keeping his optic beam from going off, it could have blasted her and left her unconscious.

Just a thought. who knows though? What is for certain is they have wiggle room to do whatever they want.
 
theguido said:
Well, I can see it going either way, because while the possibilities are strong that she kills him, her "Kill me before I kill again" line only comes after Wolverine shows her the glasses and asks where Cyclops is. What the wild card is is how aware is Jean Grey of her actions when she turns into Dark Phoenix. If she is only vaguely aware of what was happening, she could have been aware that while she was kissing him her unconscious mind took over and not known the details--thus, seeing the glasses makes her believe that she in fact did kill him even though she's unsure.

And there's no way Professor Xavier can know for sure since he's having a hard enough time finding out where she is from all the psychic interference she's running.

Furthermore, I think it's possible (though highly unlikely) that once Cyclops realized something was wrong with Jean, he may have instinctively opened his eyes, and she being only somewhat awakened and not focusing on keeping his optic beam from going off, it could have blasted her and left her unconscious.

Just a thought. who knows though? What is for certain is they have wiggle room to do whatever they want.

At this point, I would take almost anything
 
Comic book rules apply:
No body = no death.
He could come back. :o
 
Ben Urich said:
Comic book rules apply:
No body = no death.
He could come back. :o


I just hope there's a fairly plausible explanation of how he'll return :)
 
Pretty much the whole series open for another sequel. I mean they could say that the cure was temporary (since Leech's gift only worked for so long) so that brings back Magneto, Rogue, and Mystique.

They could say that the Pheonix was so powerful it revived Jean like in the comics. And as far as Scott went, they never showed his body and she was indeed relocated. They can just make some explanation like she teliported him away, she tossed him away, he was left to die but rescued somehow, I mean this IS a comic book movie. These characters never truly die unless you see it happen or there body, which still doesn't mean anything. I mean they clearly showed Professor blown into billions of pieces yet he lives in the end. I personally think the X-Men series could live long after this movie and I truly hope that they bring back all the "dead" and "cured" mutants.

X-Men is one of those movies where most fans want to see keep living on. And it truly has the potental to live on. And even if characters die most audiences love when they come back (such as Jean). All I care is I really do hope they make another X-Men movie. As far as bad guys dying "Toad, Deathstrike, Sabertooth) thats fine, cause the villains are suppose to die any ways.
 
I agree that bring cyclops back from the dead is very real and possible idea. the question is, if x4 were to be made, would they actually bring him back? would we want him to get screwed for yet another film?

but back to how cyke lives:

in x2 jean blocked his powers using her TK, and she was able to sort of deflect it back to him and both of them went flying and thats how the dam got ruptured. jean gets injured from the blast though i think it was just from hitting her lef, but cyclops is unhurt (which seems to flow in the comic world as well because havok and cyclops cant hurt each other using their powers)

so in x3, jean holds back his powers. they kiss and jean goes into evil mode. since she just came out of the water, she is not that strong, she cant demolecularize him and hold back his powers as well. i think cyclops gets his powers back and jean deflects it as well and both of them go flying, which is why jean is found on the ground and cyke could've went into the water or forest whatever ... jean just thinks she killed him because it all happened so fast and that phoenix took over her .
 
It doesn't matter if Cyclops survived or not.

Cyclops surviving and coming back in and X-Men 4 won't change the fact that X-Men: The Last Stand championed Logan's love for Jean over Scott's.
 
^ That is because Wolverine is the "star" of the movie Nell. Anyways, if they wanted to bring him back...they easily could. They left a ton of doors open to explain how he could not of died. I personally like the idea of Cyke sensing he is fixing to be killed and blasting Jean back. Jean held back his powers but then they both closed their eyes to kiss. So, Jean stopped controlling his beam...because his eyes were closed. Anyways, she starts to suck the life out of him and he blasts her like in X2 and they both get blasted apart. That would explain why Jean was not on the portruding rock and on the ground instead. Cyke could have easily been blasted into the woods and knocked unconscious...that is why Xavier couldn't read his thoughts...he has none...he is knocked out stone cold. Fast forward to some boy scouts finding him in the woods, waking him and Scott refusing to open his eyes. Voila! Cyclops is back...think of it as you will.
 
if scott comes back, jean also needs to come back and we need to actually see them two together ! like foreal this time.

i think not having the phoenix flame in the movie may actually help for x4. the idea of phoenix is the whole "from the ashes" from death comes life. so jean can come back to life, surrounded in the phoenix flame.

what id like to see for a possible x4 is:
- cure turns into legacy virus (with some mutants gets it as a disease, some mutants their powers return, or in the case of rouge, a mutation on her powers)
- jean from the grave, senses cyclops alive and ressurects herself or cyclops turns up alive goes to her grave and triggers jean to come up again
- wolverine out and gambit in
- clean up this whole mess with xavier fast and quick because i dint even like that whole story
 
Do you think audiences would want to Jean come back again...I certainly do, but I would think some might think: Jean...alive...again?
 

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