Why PS3?

[XwolverineX]

God.. You ARE random today.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Nothing screams ''NEXT GEN'' like a gimmicked gamecube

Nothing screams Next Gen like an overpriced machine which is basically the same thing as the last with a bit more power behind it. Truly revolutionary. Kind of like putting a bigger canonball in a canon. Sure, it's bigger, and probably flies further with more gunpowder.

 

[Horrorfan]

Nothing screams Next Gen like an overpriced machine which is basically the same thing as the last with a bit more power behind it. .

That sounds like Wii, except with a nintendo glove


They should throw in onea' them there virtual boys I keep hearing are so groovy too

 

[WhatsHisFace]

Nothing screams Next Gen like an overpriced machine which is basically the same thing as the last with a bit more power behind it. Truly revolutionary. Kind of like putting a bigger canonball in a canon. Sure, it's bigger, and probably flies further with more gunpowder.

Please tell me you're not talking about the Xbox360. Aside from greatly overhauling the Xbox Live system and integration into even singleplayer games, the Xbox360 already has enough great games that couldn't have been done on a less powerful machine.

Oblivion, even with toned-down graphics would have been impossible as the radiant A.I., gigantic cache banks and just the characteristics of the world wouldn't have been possible on an Xbox 1.

Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter, despite having insanely inferior brothers on last-gen consoles, simply tracks too much and draws too much from the increased (fourfold) RAM size that there would have been too many loading times for it to be playable on last-gen systems.

I should say Kameo, because while it was originally planned as a last-gen game, the translation to the Xbox360 gave it the best moments of the game. The entire battlefield is enough fun to carry that game through.

There are plenty of things you won't see on the Wii, for power reasons alone. Don't act like "motion sensory" makes up for it, because it simply doesn't. The Wii is basically an underpowered Xbox with only 88mb of RAM, which for next-gen standards is pitiful.

 

[Phaser]

Please tell me you're not talking about the Xbox360. Aside from greatly overhauling the Xbox Live system and integration into even singleplayer games, the Xbox360 already has enough great games that couldn't have been done on a less powerful machine.

Oblivion, even with toned-down graphics would have been impossible as the radiant A.I., gigantic cache banks and just the characteristics of the world wouldn't have been possible on an Xbox 1.

Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter, despite having insanely inferior brothers on last-gen consoles, simply tracks too much and draws too much from the increased (fourfold) RAM size that there would have been too many loading times for it to be playable on last-gen systems.

I should say Kameo, because while it was originally planned as a last-gen game, the translation to the Xbox360 gave it the best moments of the game. The entire battlefield is enough fun to carry that game through.

There are plenty of things you won't see on the Wii, for power reasons alone. Don't act like "motion sensory" makes up for it, because it simply doesn't. The Wii is basically an underpowered Xbox with only 88mb of RAM, which for next-gen standards is pitiful.

I simply can't understand the posters (especially the Nintendophiles) on this board triviliazing the importance of increased hardware power in creating next-gen games. I had already made a similiar post in an earlier thread which criticized next-gen gaming consoles as being only a minor leap in games development technology.

Sure, the Wii has a nice controller but in my opinion, that doesn't compensate for the comparitively less impressive games it will be stuck with thanks to it's puny horsepower count. Things like detailed characters that truly express emotions, huge and immersive worlds with lush vistas, true "smart" NPC and enemy A.I - all these are but a pipe dream on the Wii. Of course, someone is bound to retort with the usual "graphics don't matter, gameplay does" but you're only deluding yourself if you think the above mentioned elements do not impact your gameplay experience in a significant way. Not to mention the fact that your gaming time with the Wii will only be limited to 45 minute sessions at most after which your arms will ache like hell and you will be unable to play for even half as much time the next day. Anyone who has clocked in greater than 15 continuos minutes at any lightgun arcade game will have a pretty good idea of what I'm talking about.

 

[Horrorfan]

Not to mention the fact that your gaming time with the Wii will only be limited to 45 minute sessions at most after which your arms will ache like hell and you will be unable to play for even half as much time the next day. Anyone who has clocked in greater than 15 continuos minutes at any lightgun arcade game will have a pretty good idea of what I'm talking about.

Good point. I was thinking about that too, and you won't want to play games like that for too long. It's exhausting. Oh it's a good idea, and it's fun and all, but it's not something I think you can or will use constantly. and with a normal controller, you might as well be playing the first x box.


I am interested in it, but as a supplementary console to my 360, which I will play more. It's like an accessory, and i think nintendo know that, best used i n tandem with the true next gen consoles.

Interactive controls have been around for a long time in arcades (like alien 3 the gun, house of the dead 3) and not to mention lightgun arcade games. It's an intriguing premesis but not one where you can play for any length of time.

 

[Phaser]

Good point. I was thinking about that too, and you won't want to play games like that for too long. It's exhausting. Oh it's a good idea, and it's fun and all, but it's not something I think you can or will use constantly. and with a normal controller, you might as well be playing the first x box.

I am interested in it, but as a supplementary console to my 360, which I will play more. It's like an accessory, and i think nintendo know that, best used i n tandem with the true next gen consoles.

Interactive controls have been around for a long time in arcades (like alien 3 the gun, house of the dead 3) and not to mention lightgun arcade games. It's an intriguing premesis but not one where you can play for any length of time.

Exactly. Sure, motion-sensing technology is cool and all, but in my estimation it is only suited for short gaming bursts at the arcades and such and is a highly impractical solution for lengthy home entertainment sessions like console gaming.

 

[Danalys]

well that's why you should be able to switch between that and the traditional. that's why warhark can be played both ways. doesn't require reptative movements either. smooth and flowing like turning a stearing wheel. which people do for hours.

 

[Spidey-Bat]

Please tell me you're not talking about the Xbox360. Aside from greatly overhauling the Xbox Live system and integration into even singleplayer games, the Xbox360 already has enough great games that couldn't have been done on a less powerful machine.

Oblivion, even with toned-down graphics would have been impossible as the radiant A.I., gigantic cache banks and just the characteristics of the world wouldn't have been possible on an Xbox 1.

Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter, despite having insanely inferior brothers on last-gen consoles, simply tracks too much and draws too much from the increased (fourfold) RAM size that there would have been too many loading times for it to be playable on last-gen systems.

I should say Kameo, because while it was originally planned as a last-gen game, the translation to the Xbox360 gave it the best moments of the game. The entire battlefield is enough fun to carry that game through.

There are plenty of things you won't see on the Wii, for power reasons alone. Don't act like "motion sensory" makes up for it, because it simply doesn't. The Wii is basically an underpowered Xbox with only 88mb of RAM, which for next-gen standards is pitiful.

He/She means PS3. The 360 isn't overpriced. I'm cheap as hell and a big Nintendo fan and I don't regret getting my 360 for $400. Plus, look at the title.

 

[Horrorfan]

well that's why you should be able to switch between that and the traditional. that's why warhark can be played both ways. doesn't require reptative movements either. smooth and flowing like turning a stearing wheel. which people do for hours.

Yeah but with the wii, without the control it's basically the first x box, so whats the point ya know?

Don't get me wrong, I'm still interested, but it is soley as an acessory to the other consoles - something which I think Sony and Microsoft have both noticed, which is why they are keen to advertise it beside their consoles instead of treating it as another contender. Nintendo knows it too, which is a good thing because it can now allign itself with either sony or microsoft. But you still won't be wanting to own just the wii by itself, I am betting.

 

[LobokDaikon]

It's not like every Wii game will be a complete workout. They've already shown how players can use subtle movments if they wish. You don't have to jump around like the actors in the trailers.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Please tell me you're not talking about the Xbox360. Aside from greatly overhauling the Xbox Live system and integration into even singleplayer games, the Xbox360 already has enough great games that couldn't have been done on a less powerful machine.

Oblivion, even with toned-down graphics would have been impossible as the radiant A.I., gigantic cache banks and just the characteristics of the world wouldn't have been possible on an Xbox 1.

Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter, despite having insanely inferior brothers on last-gen consoles, simply tracks too much and draws too much from the increased (fourfold) RAM size that there would have been too many loading times for it to be playable on last-gen systems.

I should say Kameo, because while it was originally planned as a last-gen game, the translation to the Xbox360 gave it the best moments of the game. The entire battlefield is enough fun to carry that game through.

There are plenty of things you won't see on the Wii, for power reasons alone. Don't act like "motion sensory" makes up for it, because it simply doesn't. The Wii is basically an underpowered Xbox with only 88mb of RAM, which for next-gen standards is pitiful.

I am. But power alone doesn't make a new generation, unless you somehow plan on moving past 3-D graphics and movement. Power alone just makes prettier graphics. And if that's all that counts, XBox and PS2 were in two different generations. All they are is the same thing with more power.

 

[Darkdd]

The wii does have a regular controller attachment like the wavebird and you can use your gamecube controller if you have one.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

I simply can't understand the posters (especially the Nintendophiles) on this board triviliazing the importance of increased hardware power in creating next-gen games. I had already made a similiar post in an earlier thread which criticized next-gen gaming consoles as being only a minor leap in games development technology.

Sure, the Wii has a nice controller but in my opinion, that doesn't compensate for the comparitively less impressive games it will be stuck with thanks to it's puny horsepower count. Things like detailed characters that truly express emotions, huge and immersive worlds with lush vistas, true "smart" NPC and enemy A.I - all these are but a pipe dream on the Wii. Of course, someone is bound to retort with the usual "graphics don't matter, gameplay does" but you're only deluding yourself if you think the above mentioned elements do not impact your gameplay experience in a significant way. Not to mention the fact that your gaming time with the Wii will only be limited to 45 minute sessions at most after which your arms will ache like hell and you will be unable to play for even half as much time the next day. Anyone who has clocked in greater than 15 continuos minutes at any lightgun arcade game will have a pretty good idea of what I'm talking about.

Actually, this kind of counteracted against the poster you just supported in a way. You actually more or less just agreed with me, who said that this "Next-Gen" is more or less the current gen. I agree that graphics and movements that are done in this new generation were impossible in the last generation, but that really only adds so much to the experience itself. It's basically the same thing, only prettier, or you can fight more enemies at a time. That's it. And the Wii isn't going to be so underwhemlingly weak that it can't compete at all. Sure, it's only so much more powerful than the original XBox, but that's not exactly poor as hell. So the "weak" A.I. is nothing more than banter. The Wii's controller also isn't some production, though it can be played that way. There's a damn good chance it doesn't even require as much as the lightgun (though I know exactly what you mean by that. You'll see people who don't do many arm excercises, and after ten to tweny minutes, they're wiped. So I guess I can see how the Wii won't appeal to extremely out of shape people.) The Wii's structure actually goes as far as to really immerse users INTO their games. You're not just playing it as from a bunch of buttons, it's much more interactive. You could actually compare it to playing DDR on a PS2 controller. Because if you did that, you totally destroy the initial appeal of DDR at all.

As for being a "Nintendophile," that's hardly accurate, I haven't even posted on this section of the forums enough to be counted as having any form of bias for the most part.

 

[LostLilBunBun]

Why should I get a PS3 with a 360 at home?

I haven't seen a single game that's better looking than anything on the Xbox?

Ultimate Marvel even looks better in the 360 shots?

Me and my brother anit even bothering getting either one. We are fine with having normal xbox, gamecube and ps2

 

[WhatsHisFace]

I am. But power alone doesn't make a new generation, unless you somehow plan on moving past 3-D graphics and movement. Power alone just makes prettier graphics. And if that's all that counts, XBox and PS2 were in two different generations. All they are is the same thing with more power.

Wow, that's a really ignorant thing to say. The Xbox had so many functionality advantages over the PS2 for increased RAM alone, listing what the hard-drive added would make you look like a fool. Talk to anyone else about Xbox Live. They'll go for a few pages gladly.

 

[Phaser]

Actually, this kind of counteracted against the poster you just supported in a way.

I don't see how.

You actually more or less just agreed with me, who said that this "Next-Gen" is more or less the current gen. I agree that graphics and movements that are done in this new generation were impossible in the last generation, but that really only adds so much to the experience itself. It's basically the same thing, only prettier, or you can fight more enemies at a time. That's it.

Again, read my posts (and WHF's) properly. Your statement of the next-gen technology of the 360 and PS3 only being able to render prettier pictures and greater enemies is disgustingly ignorant - and is exact the kind of mentality I attacked in my post.

And the Wii isn't going to be so underwhemlingly weak that it can't compete at all. Sure, it's only so much more powerful than the original XBox, but that's not exactly poor as hell.

Comparitively speaking, it is.

So the "weak" A.I. is nothing more than banter.

How so? Please elaborate.

The Wii's controller also isn't some production, though it can be played that way. There's a damn good chance it doesn't even require as much as the lightgun (though I know exactly what you mean by that.

I'll give you 100 bucks to try and make any sense of those lines.

You'll see people who don't do many arm excercises, and after ten to tweny minutes, they're wiped. So I guess I can see how the Wii won't appeal to extremely out of shape people.)

I engage in daily morning workouts that includes around 45 pushups in three sets and my arm ached like hell the next day after an extensive, uninterrupted session in Virtua Cop 3 at my local arcade that lasted a little more than half an hour. Considering at least 80% of people do not engage in regular arm exercise of any kind whatsoever, Nintendo just shot themselves in the foot since they are aiming for the broadest possible userbase for the Wii. I doubt anyone would want to touch the Wiimote for some stress-relieving, relaxing entertainment after a long, hard day at school or work.

The Wii's structure actually goes as far as to really immerse users INTO their games. You're not just playing it as from a bunch of buttons, it's much more interactive.

I don't have a problem with the Wii's motion-sensing controller. Sure it's a cool little gizmo but that doesn't mean it's a completely practical solution for console gaming.

You could actually compare it to playing DDR on a PS2 controller. Because if you did that, you totally destroy the initial appeal of DDR at all.

Reality check: not all games are DDR. Konami's dance simulator was purposely designed keeping in mind a specific controller (or accessory if you will). It's an irrelevant example.

As for being a "Nintendophile," that's hardly accurate, I haven't even posted on this section of the forums enough to be counted as having any form of bias for the most part.

Posting on videogame forums is not a prerequisite to be a fanboy/girl.

 

[FVD]

Well I just found out that yesterday the PS3 in NZ is gonna retail at $1200NZD and the Wii at $400NZD. It'll be easy to save up for a Wii that's for sure. I'll be getting these two and have no desire to get a Xbox360.

Only 4+ months remain.

 

[Addendum]

Well I just found out that yesterday the PS3 in NZ is gonna retail at $1200NZD and the Wii at $400NZD. It'll be easy to save up for a Wii that's for sure. I'll be getting these two and have no desire to get a Xbox360.

Only 4+ months remain.

To each his/her own

 

[Spidey-Bat]

Well I just found out that yesterday the PS3 in NZ is gonna retail at $1200NZD and the Wii at $400NZD. It'll be easy to save up for a Wii that's for sure. I'll be getting these two and have no desire to get a Xbox360.

Only 4+ months remain.

Why? You could probably get a 360 and Wii and a few games for $1200NZ. Plus you'll still be able to get used and rental games.