Will Fanboys Ever Learn?

[Tron Bonne]

Are you guys Universal shareholders?

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Spider-Reboot will underperform because a lot of fanboys feel like general audiences are going to feel... that this reboot is unnecessary and that Tobey Maguire IS Peter Parker. Can't say that fanboy and "regular" folk reaction is going to be different on that one. Sony's rights retaining reboot isn't sitting well with many at this point, trust me.

Agreed.

Sometimes, however, box office reflects quality. Iron Man 2 is undoubtedly a better movie than Inception cwink: @ I SEE SPIDEY) and deserves to outgross it domestically. I have no doubt that IM2 will have better DVD sales as well. It's eminently more rewatchable. Once you know the ending of Inception, it loses a lot of it's edgy appeal. I didn't see anyone posting that TDK didn't deserve its incredible box office a few years back.

Don't make me bet you man. Inception's word of mouth is some of the best of the year. It was far better received than Iron Man 2. It will blow it out of the water on DVD. I don't think that Iron Man 2 is outdoing Twilight 3 on DVD (just like the first one didn't) let along the leggy Inception.

 

[bullets]

I'm glad the studio poured all that money into scotty pilgrim because it looks fantastic , it wa sall worth it . some day they'll make a dime off it . machetes is going to bomb also but it's going to be awesome . i guess they are expecting a sleeper hit . sin city and 300 did really well , it's their fault

th studios wouldnt invest in these properties if they didnt think it was worth it, would they?

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

The studios won't be pouring 60 to 90mil into another Scott Pilgrim, great film or not.

 

[Kurosawa]

If they make a hundred more Scott Pilgrims and one of them is a hit...they will keep making them on the chance another one will be a hit. Most moviess end up making their money back on home video.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

"Will fanboys ever learn"?

Nothing is wrong with rooting for your team. For ever fanboy movie that bombs there's another that's a blockbuster.

Fanboy's didn't produce these movies, we anticipated them. Where's the crime in that?

 

[Lighthouse]

The studios won't be pouring 60 to 90mil into another Scott Pilgrim, great film or not.

Even if it was a success, why would they make another one? It was a pretty self contained story.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

I'm proud to be a fanboy. The fanboy haters don't impress me with their condescending apathy and shallow defense of every pointless change studios make to beloved stories and characters.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I have no problem with rooting on a film but the over-hype of these movies is annoying and all the yelling about them in the world isn't going to make people interested in them. I honestly think that the constant coverage of these types of films hurt them at the boxoffice.

I stick to my opening question. None of these films have been blockbusters though, you can't deny the reality of that anymore than I can deny the fact that the great Children of Men was a huge flop at the boxoffice. I'm just saying stop being shocked by their faliure, they aren't mainstream films so just deal with it. Thats pretty much the point that I'm trying to get across. I said nothing about mainstream films being better or worse. Nobody hated this Summer movie season more than I. Nobody.

Some of the responses aren't a shock though because I'd have been a fool if I didn't expect extreme defensiveness from some of my fellow fanboys.

 

[Bunker]

Can someone point out to me where fanboys said Scott Pilgrim would be a big hit? I can't seem to find it in the SHH! thread.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

The thread should be called, "Why are mainstream audiences clueless sheep?"

It's not the fanboys fault the public has horrible taste. Paul Blart made 146 million in the US alone. Meanwhile Scott Pilgrim, which is critically acclaimed, will struggle to make 25 million.

So "when will mainstream sheep learn"?

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

The thread should be called, "Why are mainstream audiences clueless sheep?"

It's not the fanboys fault the public has horrible taste. Paul Blart made 146 million in the US alone. Meanwhile Scott Pilgrim, which is critically acclaimed, will struggle to make 25 million.

So "when will mainstream sheep learn"?

You can start that cry-baby thread but this is mama's thread and she deemed this question interesting and acceptable.

 

[CelticPredator]

Not everyone thinks movies are art forms.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

I have no problem with rooting on a film but the over-hype of these movies is annoying and all the yelling about them in the world isn't going to make people interested in them. I honestly think that the constant coverage of these types of films hurt them at the boxoffice.

I stick to my opening question. None of these films have been blockbusters though, you can't deny the reality of that anymore than I can deny the fact that the great Children of Men was a huge flop at the boxoffice. I'm just saying stop being shocked by their faliure, they aren't mainstream films so just deal with it. Thats pretty much the point that I'm trying to get across. I said nothing about mainstream films being better or worse. Nobody hated this Summer movie season more than I. Nobody.

Some of the responses aren't a shock though because I'd have been a fool if I didn't expect extreme defensiveness from some of my fellow fanboys.

If Star Wars flopped way back in 1977 and I was one of the few lucky ones to see it, I'd be screaming from every mountain top to "see this movie".

I'd hope others would do the same for me if they saw an awesome movie I missed.

I really don't see the point of showing apathy toward a movie you anticipate or loved.

It seems the fanboys only crime is that we care too much. Oh no! Anything but that!

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

You can start that cry-baby thread but this is mama's thread and she deemed this question interesting and acceptable.

lol!

as if this thread doesn't "cry" about fanboys.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I take film very seriously and it makes me sad that most people don't. Movies have gotten worse and I hate that but that silly, based on a comicbook Scott Pilgrim, no matter how good it is, was not going to save original cinema.

It's not even f**king original, it's another f**king comicbook movie thats headed towards youngins. I'd like to see more movies not based on s**t, movies that don't turn off grown ups because they feature words on screen 60's Batman style and Mr. Cera playing the same f**king character. I'm not arguing the quality of the film because I haven't seen it but it looks far from the type of films I want to see more of. I want to see more District 9's and Inceptions not 500 Days of Summer with special effects and unappealing lead.

And for the record I have no idea what the hype for 500 Days of Summer was all about, I didn't hate the movie but I found it to be only slightly pleasant. It's an overly cutesy movie about a loser with unrealistic expectations and teasing wishy washy b**ch. The lead character learned nothing in that film. Nothing.

 

[dark_b]

this is one of the best threads that was created on SHH in the last 5 years.

bravo ISS

 

[Kurosawa]

I take film very seriously and it makes me sad that most people don't. Movies have gotten worse and I hate that but that silly, based on a comicbook Scott Pilgrim, no matter how good it is, was not going to save original cinema.

It's not even f**king original, it's another f**king comicbook movie thats headed towards youngins. I'd like to see more movies not based on s**t, movies that don't turn off grown ups because they feature words on screen 60's Batman style and Mr. Cera playing the same f**king character. I'm not arguing the quality of the film because I haven't seen it but it looks far from the type of films I want to see more of. I want to see more District 9's and Inceptions not 500 Days of Summer with special effects and unappealing lead.

And 99.9% of what you will see will be adaptations or even worse, remakes or reboots. It's not like Hollywood is bursting with originality. And for every Inception that is somewhat original and a hit, there's always other movies that are original and bomb.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I actually don't expect hollywood to listen to my pleas or the boxoffice numbers of Inception and District 9. They will stop the glut of comicbook movies when they are no longer in. And this cycle will not last forever.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

I take film very seriously and it makes me sad that most people don't. Movies have gotten worse and I hate that but that silly, based on a comicbook Scott Pilgrim, no matter how good it is, was not going to save original cinema.

It's not even f**king original, it's another f**king comicbook movie thats headed towards youngins. I'd like to see more movies not based on s**t, movies that don't turn off grown ups because they feature words on screen 60's Batman style and Mr. Cera playing the same f**king character. I'm not arguing the quality of the film because I haven't seen it but it looks far from the type of films I want to see more of. I want to see more District 9's and Inceptions not 500 Days of Summer with special effects and unappealing lead.

And for the record I have no idea what the hype for 500 Days of Summer was all about, I didn't hate the movie but I found it to be only slightly pleasant. It's an overly cutesy movie about a loser with unrealistic expectations and teasing wishy washy b**ch. The lead character learned nothing in that film. Nothing.

I think there's enough room on the Wal-Mart shelves for District 9 and Scott Pilgrim.

I don't know why you're positioning these movies against one another. They're all inventive counter-programing that are rare accomplishments in Hollywood.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

I actually don't expect hollywood to listen to my pleas or the boxoffice numbers of Inception and District 9. They will stop the glut of comicbook movies when they are no longer in. And this cycle will not last forever.

Comic book movies is a genre like horror or romantic comedy.

It's here to stay.

 

[Kurosawa]

Glut of comicbook movies is better than glut of remakes, especially remakes of movies that aren't even very old and didn't need to be remade. The problem is they are adapting comics that have no widespread name recognition or appeal. Nothing against Kick-Ass or Scott Pilgrim, but it's pretty absurd movies have been made of those two while Wonder Woman and Flash haven't been made.

Movies have always had tons of adaptations from outside sources. Most of Hitchcock's films were adaptions. There's nothing wrong with a certain amount of that happening. I think we all know a Flash movie that was made with as much effort and as faithful as the Scott Pilgrim movie would do a hell of a lot more than #4 box office and a few million bucks.

 

[redhawk23]

just because a movie isn't super mainstream doesnt mean it will completely belly flop. its perfectly acceptable to be somewhat shocked when a highly talked about film fails the first weekend out.

 

[Kurosawa]

No, that happens all the time.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

this is one of the best threads that was created on SHH in the last 5 years.

bravo ISS

I hate to pat myself on the back but I re-read my opening post and I'm f**king proud of it. Some people obviously aren't reading it because they have responded the way I thought they would. They completely negate the entire post and point of the thread to talk about how awesome nerd movies are and how movies aren't good based on boxoffice numbers and how Scott Pilgrim will become a huge hit on DVD and how the audiences taste in movies is terrible.

I addressed all of those things but you wouldn't know it if you read some of the reponses. lol Nerds are so predictable and I obviously should know that because I post on Superhero Hype. I wish they'd get a new song and dance routine because the old one is played the hell out.

Scott Pilgrim is lucky it made as much as it did because I thought that a double degit opening was in trouble.