The Dark Knight Will the Batmobile return or be completely redesigned?

[CFE]

The Tumbler that looks like a batmobile isn't a tumbler, it's a batmobile.

The '89 car was a tumbler that looked like a batmobile.

You're not listening at all...

The Tumbler that looks like a Batmobile is exactly that.

I'm talking about a vehicle with the physical/tactical capabilites of the Tumbler and the visual/psychological impact of the Batmobile.

A Hybrid...

Do you get what I'm saying now? I felt I was being quite clear, but I guess I wasn't clear enough.

CFE

 

[Goon 2 Goblin]

I loved the Tumbler, made one hell of an impression in two movies. I actually thought it's coolest scene was in TDK where it was featured prominetely less than in BEGINS. The part where he slams the garbage truck into the concrete wall on the underbelly Gotham street was oustanding. But, while it was worthy of the title of best Batmobile, right there in competition with the Batmobile from Batman '89 and Returns ... let it ride off into the sunset. And if they do make a final chapter to the Nolan trilogy, I'd rather just see him on the bat-pod.

 

[Goon 2 Goblin]

I'm talking about a vehicle with the physical/practical capabilites of the Tumbler and the visual/psychological impact of the Batmobile.

A Hybrid...

I thought the Tumbler aka Batmobile had that in spades.

 

[batman_1982]

I personally like the rough and tough image of the tumbler. It could breakthrough anything. It doesn't have the sleek sporty look of traditional Batmobiles, but it still looks like a kickass ride. However, WB will no doubt push for a new design for marketing and merchandise purposes. So I'm quite sure we will see something new in the next flick.

 

[Fitzwilliam]

You're not listening at all...

The Tumbler that looks like a Batmobile is exactly that.

I'm talking about a vehicle with the physical/tactical capabilites of the Tumbler and the visual/psychological impact of the Batmobile.

A Hybrid...

Do you get what I'm saying now? I felt I was being quite clear, but I guess I wasn't clear enough.

CFE

What physical abilities did the '89 vehicle not have that the tumbler has? The jump? That's it?

 

[thcapedcrusader]

i am sure this has been brought up already but doesn't the batpod remind you of the batmissile from batman returns? (yeah yeah probably been posted already)

anyway, i LOVE the tumbler and was sad to see it destroyed, but i guess this is an opportunity to improve and come up with a more bad ass ride for bruce.

 

[Goon 2 Goblin]

What physical abilities did the '89 vehicle not have that the tumbler has? The jump? That's it?

The ability to have such intense high speed chases that are real and exhilerating the type that the Tumbler gave us in BEGINS and The Dark Knight? The real Batmobile from the Burton films couldn't really move like that let alone make way for a nice chase scene. Just watch the chase scenes with the Batmobile from BEGINS and TDK, then compare it to the one in B89.

It's a snooze fest in comparison. All that stems from the Tumbler's actual physical capabilities.

 

[Fitzwilliam]

The ability to have such intense high speed chases that are real and exhilerating the type that the Tumbler gave us in BEGINS and The Dark Knight? The real Batmobile from the Burton films couldn't really move like that let alone make way for a nice chase scene. Just watch the chase scenes with the Batmobile from BEGINS and TDK, then compare it to the one in B89.

It's a snooze fest in comparison. All that stems from the Tumbler's actual physical capabilities.

To be fair, the difference in chase scenes was down to Burton's directorial inadequacy, not the car.

 

[Goon 2 Goblin]

i am sure this has been brought up already but doesn't the batpod remind you of the batmissile from batman returns? (yeah yeah probably been posted already)

There is very strong similarities.

With that said, the Bat-pod was a much better machine and more interesting story wise.

It was a pure thrill to watch as well. That's why I don't mind the bat-pod being his only mode of transportation for a sequel.

I thought the bat-pod was by far the most interesting visual of a bat machine thus far. It looked stunning with Batman riding on it. He looked like a wraith. Going at such high speeds, the low perched demonic exposed cowl of Batman, the whiping cape in the wind. The bat-pod to me reminded me of the thematic equivelent of a "knight's horse." In Batman Begins, Batman was much more animalistic in design and function. In TDK, they really emphasized the Knight like characteristics, and the bat-pod and th eimage of Batman riding it is the equivelent of a knight riding his mythic horse into battle.

 

[Goon 2 Goblin]

To be fair, the difference in chase scenes was down to Burton's directorial inadequacy, not the car.

I disagree. The car itself couldn't drive that well. It wasn't very fast, and wasn't very practical. You could only take it on a perfectly smooth rode. It was so low to the ground, that if you hit a bump that fiber glass car would snap in half. Only Burton inadequacy is basically the critique on all things Burton, it was a classic example of STYLE OVER SUBSTANCE. Like his films. With that said, the car featured in B89 and Returns was absolutely sexy. A joy to look at, just not practical, and couldn't even come close to giving us the raw power, and exhilerating chase scenes we got with the Tumbler Batmobile.

 

[zmystico]

While I loved how the batpod served its purpose in TDK, its far from the ideal choice of vehicle for batman...it leaves him too exposed, especially since he's wearing a suit that now is more for flexibility than protection.

 

[CFE]

The ability to have such intense high speed chases that are real and exhilerating the type that the Tumbler gave us in BEGINS and The Dark Knight? The real Batmobile from the Burton films couldn't really move like that let alone make way for a nice chase scene. Just watch the chase scenes with the Batmobile from BEGINS and TDK, then compare it to the one in B89.

It's a snooze fest in comparison. All that stems from the Tumbler's actual physical capabilities.

What? That's not true at all...Anton Furst's Batmobile could exceed speeds well above 100 mph...The reason it didn't appear to go that fast was because the backlot built at Pinewood was too small to allow for the car to get up to those speeds. I thought that was common knowledge here

But god, you two aren't listening at all.

First off, there was plenty the Tumbler could do that the 89 couldn't...the jump, handling the terrain of rooftops, smashing through concrete, the stealth mode...If the 89 attempted any of the stunts presented in "Begins" or "TDK" that car would be f**ked...unlike the Tumbler, which drove away from each as if it were nothing.

And second no...The Tumbler, while ominous, didn't have the visual impact of the 89 Batmobile. It's not a Batmobile, it's an Applied Sciences Military Vehicle that's given a black paint job. If you saw the Tumbler in silhouette, it'd look like...I don't even know...a blod of plating and wheel I suppose? But when you see Furst's car in silhouette you know EXACTLY what you're looking at.

I want a Batmobile that actually looks like a Batmobile but it needs to be built to handle just as well if not better than the Tumbler...

CFE

 

[Goon 2 Goblin]

The Tumbler is definetely a Batmobile. It's visibly distinctive to seperate itself from normal cars, it's driven by Batman, and it has its own mythic and intimidating precense. Sounds like a Batmobile to me. Why is the bat-pod called the bat-pod? A car having bat-wings and bat swag isn't the only way to compromise what a Batmobile could be.

 

[thcapedcrusader]

ever wonder how the cape was not dragged in by the wheel?

the batpod was great, but he still needs his ride. something that turns heads. something that menaces like the tumblers but has the sleekness of batmobiles past (excluding the joel schmacher versions)

for some reason, i am a big fan of the batwing and hope they bring it back in some capacity. a bit OT but random thought i had as i typed.

 

[Fitzwilliam]

Oh come on!!!


The stealth mode involved turning off the lights!

 

[Goon 2 Goblin]

The Batmobile from Burton's films couldn't reach those speeds on normal roads. The way it was built limited its capabilities. The frame was too long to be functional, and it was too low to the ground to drive on regular and varrying types of terrain and streets. So yes the engine would it allow it to reach speeds of 100 mph, but the physical funcionality of the car would not. And if it could, why would Burton be so stupid as to simply film it driving at speeds inbetween 20 mph and 40 mph on a small back lot studio? Let's create this oustanding piece of machinery, and totally keep it boxed in from it's capabilities? Then that's just a dumb move by Burton and Co.

 

[Fitzwilliam]

The Batmobile from Burton's films couldn't reach those speeds on normal roads. The way it was built limited its capabilities. The frame was too long to be functional, and it was too low to the ground to drive on regular and varrying types of terrain and streets. So yes the engine would it allow it to reach speeds of 100 mph, but the physical funcionality of the car would not. And if it could, why would Burton be so stupid as to simply film it driving at speeds inbetween 20 mph and 40 mph on a small back lot studio? Let's create this oustanding piece of machinery, and totally keep it boxed in from it's capabilities? Then that's just a dumb move by Burton and Co.

Yes it was... That's what I said.

And it is a reality that the batmobile DID go over 100 mph.

 

[CFE]

Oh come on!!!


The stealth mode involved turning off the lights!

If that were true than it wouldn't have worked and the police would've still known where he was. 'Stealth Mode' also had to do with the amount of noise coming from the engine, the handling of the vehicle overall, etc...several factors.

But I can't believe I'm having this stupid conversation with you two.

The Tumbler was destroyed...but while it's obvious that Wayne and Fox need to rebuild, it would be naive of them to ignore just how reliable the thing was for Batman.

So sure...What I'm saying is that they need to build a new Batmobile, but they need to retain the advantages the Tumbler had as a vehicle.

That's what I've been saying, in essence, the ENTIRE TIME...Seriously, are the two of you THAT dense that you're not getting this???

I know 5 year olds that could've gotten this first post out...seriously, that's sad on your respective parts.

 

[Anubis Raptor]

I just want to see a Batmobilet:

 

[Ziggyman]

Should the new batmobile have the bat-pod come out of it or be apart of it?

 

[CFE]

"throws yellow penalty flag* we have multiple fouls, these fouls offset each other *blows whistle* continue adult conversation

Thank you

In short...rebuild the Batmobile.

And since we've seen the Bat-Pod jetisen from the car before...I say the Pod be kept as a seperate vehicle now.

CFE

 

[zmystico]

i think the pod should be remodeled to the batcycle and be seperate of the batmobile

 

[CFE]

Ah...but the real topic in question...eleven words:

Could Nolan conceivably bring in...the Bat Plane or Bat Boat???

Probably not...but I'd get a kick out of seeing Tumbler-esque designs for those two.

CFE

 

[C. Lee]

Give me time to read through this....then we'll see if anyone gets banned, probated, whatever.....

 

[AmazinUncleBen]

If that were true than it wouldn't have worked and the police would've still known where he was. 'Stealth Mode' also had to do with the amount of noise coming from the engine, the handling of the vehicle overall, etc...several factors.

But I can't believe I'm having this stupid conversation with you two.

The Tumbler was destroyed...but while it's obvious that Wayne and Fox need to rebuild, it would be naive of them to ignore just how reliable the thing was for Batman.

So sure...What I'm saying is that they need to build a new Batmobile, but they need to retain the advantages the Tumbler had as a vehicle.

That's what I've been saying, in essence, the ENTIRE TIME...Seriously, are the two of you THAT dense that you're not getting this???

I know 5 year olds that could've gotten this first post out...seriously, that's sad on your respective parts.

Lmao, this may be off topic but I did get a kick out of reading the frustration build with each post till it erupted here.

Back on topic, I agree with you I'd like to see a vehicle with the physical capabilities of the tumbler, but with a little more style. Theres no reason why Batman should need to blow up a street full of cars to get to his target. Batman's all about stealth and the tumbler, even in stealth mode, is not stealthy.