The Amazing Spider-Man Will this movie avoid being a retread of the First Spider-Man movie?

[NinjaCarm]

It's font.

Font and look are very important. It's called design pal. Sorry, I don't like a similar "look" even if it is font. That's lazy and called trying to make it similar to the old. Which i detest.

 

[The Joker]

did the comics ever touch on his parents?

Yes, in a very big way.

 

[Curmudgeon]

Font and look are very important. It's called design pal. Sorry, I don't like a similar "look" even if it is font. That's lazy and called trying to make it similar to the old. Which i detest.

You're right "look" is important in filmmaking, but other than the font what about this movie looks similar to the old movies? And no, the spiders on the suits do not look exactly alike.

I would agree with you if we were talking about cinematography or costume design. However, you seem to be placing an inordinate amount of importance on font.

 

[Mace Bloodstone]

Font this thread

 

[Thundercrack85]

Looking back, there are a lot of things the first movie didn't touch on. Peter's parents' death wasn't just not brought up... they were never even referenced. We barely saw Peter's high school days, but then Tobey Maguire was far too old for the part of a high school student.

 

[jacobed]

It will avoid the retreading because this one is actually going to be good.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Nolan re-uses some of the same villains as Burton and Schmacher but the tone and atmosphere make all the difference in the world.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

It's funny that most of the people who complain about this being a retread had no problem watching Mary Jane get kidnapped in EVERY single Raimi movie.

 

[Godzilla2014]

It's funny that most of the people who complain about this being a retread had no problem watching Mary Jane get kidnapped in EVERY single Raimi movie.

Actually, though I loved the Raimi films, I found MJ getting kidnapped in each film was rather tiresome.

 

[socool]

I hope so. End of discussion.

 

[Thundercrack85]

I would like to see a more faithful take on the Green Goblin. Most of the villains in Raimi's movies weren't real villains. They were good (if flawed) characters turned insane by science experiments gone awry. Dr. Octopus even regains his sanity before dying heroically.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Nolan re-uses some of the same villains as Burton and Schmacher but the tone and atmosphere make all the difference in the world.

Zing zing zing, a closing statement

Thread over

 

[UltimateWebhead]

Well, it WILL be the 'untold story' of Spider-man, so.....

 

[Anno_Domini]

Nolan re-uses some of the same villains as Burton and Schmacher but the tone and atmosphere make all the difference in the world.

Nolan also has his own spin on the villains that Burton and Schumacher used, so if Webb can do the same, then in no way would it feel like a retread if Green Goblin, Doc Ock, Venom, etc are used.

 

[Troy_Parker]

I really hope Webb doesn't try to use sympathetic villains in every movie.

Some of Spidey's villains really are just evil for the sake of being evil. Keep it that way.

 

[spideyguy16]

Like doc ock. He is supposed to be an EVIL-genious

 

[Spider-Vader]

I think it will deinitely feel different. The villain is different, the love interest is different and the tone appears to be different.

It appears that the world is serious, while Spider-Man is comedic. Compared to the Rami movies, where much of the humor came from the world and it's inhabitants, while Spidey was sorta serious.

 

[The Overlord]

Like doc ock. He is supposed to be an EVIL-genious

There is nothing wrong with sympathetic villains persay, if every villain is just "evil for evil's sake" they can come off as rather dull and interchangeable. I kinda like movie Dr. Octopus and making him evil for evil's sake after using Gobby would have been a bit too similar. I don't find movie Gobby sympathetic at all, so I don't mind. Plus Ock in the comics has been semi sympathetic since the late 80s/early 90s.

Frankly a lot of villains in comics are pretty lame characters, who have no real sympathetic aspects, but don't do anything that evil besides rob banks, so they are not scary or really threatening either. They are bland, one dimensional, generic evil villains.

For a movie, you want a villain that's stronger then "Mwa, ha, ha, now that I have super powers and I will become evil and rob banks!"

 

[Thundercrack85]

There's a difference in having a complex villain with good qualities and having a good person go psychotic because of a laboratory accident. Yes, Otto Octavius was a likable character, but as Dr. Octopus he was just a man driven insane by his creations. He's not a real villain.

A good example is Ra's Al Ghul in Batman Begins. He had a number of good qualities, but was clearly a villain.

Raimi's movies never had a compelling real villain.

 

[chaseter]

I really hope Webb doesn't try to use sympathetic villains in every movie.

Some of Spidey's villains really are just evil for the sake of being evil. Keep it that way.

Well it looks as if he is off to a bad start then.

Also...Norman was evil for the sake of being evil sooo Venom was evil for the sake of being evil

 

[VenomSpawn]

The Lizard was a "sympathetic" villain in the comics, though. Up until the recent Lizard stories, I believe.

And about Norman, you're right, he was just evil. But Venom wasn't evil for the sake of being evil. He was evil because of his hatred of Spider-Man and because of the symbiote.

 

[chaseter]

So the complaining about Raimi always using sympathetic villains is dumb...when Webb is using a sympathetic villain. Venom =/= Brock. Although Brock was a *****e before he got the symbiote, when he became Venom he was pure evil. Ock was a nice guy but *****ey before the accident and afterwards he became evil...same with Venom. Raimi added a new layer to the character of Ock which is totally fine, it worked for the movie. I won't complain if Webb does the same as long as the movie is good. He could make Connors totally a *****e after he transforms back into a human, wanting the serum more and more like a crack addict. I even think that would be an interesting story idea. Connors knows full well what the serum does to him and what harm he has done as the Lizard but the rush of having his arm back and the way the serum feels is enough to counter the risk to him in his own mind. Would be an interesting story idea to me. I think in the comics after he takes the serum his transformations are uncontrollable.

 

[VenomSpawn]

The only villain I had a problem with in the last trilogy was Sandman. "Oh, you killed my uncle but you said you were sorry. lol ok you're free to go, you don't deserve any punishment for the murder of an innocent man because you apologized."

 

[Thundercrack85]

So the complaining about Raimi always using sympathetic villains is dumb...when Webb is using a sympathetic villain. Venom =/= Brock. Although Brock was a *****e before he got the symbiote, when he became Venom he was pure evil. Ock was a nice guy but *****ey before the accident and afterwards he became evil...same with Venom. Raimi added a new layer to the character which is totally fine, it worked for the movie. I won't complain if Webb does the same as long as the movie is good.

Again, Doctor Octopus was not a real villain. He was a nice guy who became evil when he went temporarily insane. He even regained his mind and benevolence in the end. Difference between that and a villain who has some positive traits. Now, Venom, he was a villain. A terribly lame one, but a villain. Raimi never used sympathetic villains, with the possible exception of Sandman (if you even consider him a real villain). For 1 and 2, he used decent people who went nuts.

Granted, I have no idea how the Lizard will be portrayed. But if he's another nice guy who is turned insane and evil by a science experiment gone wrong, he'll be the third such villain. Can they not write an actual sane, compelling villain who has positive traits?

 

[chaseter]

A lot of that movie jumped the shark. Although...I have seen some friggin amazing fan edits that make that movie a helluva lot better.