"wizard" Ranks The 10 Toughest Superheros In Comics!

[LouFerignoDemon]

My memory ain't so good when it comes to the JiM stuff. I've only read most of it once, or I'm still procrastinating on even reading it the first time. It's tough to read those comics after you've gotten used to modern comics.

And no. You've burned your bridges here, missy.

A simple fire puts me out?

Give me another chance, so I can use nuclear explosives to take out the bridge?

 

[Jplaya2023]

no spiderman, not batman?

list is an absolute joke.

batman had his back broken in a non canon issue of him fighting bane.

spiderman was also "supposedely" killed by morloun in another non canon fight.

how is that overlooked?

those top 10 guys have super powers and make them not able to feel pain so it isnt a fair comparison

 

[CBG]

no spiderman, not batman?

list is an absolute joke.

It would have been more if it included those two.

batman had his back broken in a non canon issue of him fighting bane.

Batman had his back broken. It's in continuity still. Again, you're in denial.

spiderman was also "supposedely" killed by morloun in another non canon fight.

Spider-Man: The Other is in continuity as well.

how is that overlooked?

Because they're most definitely not among the most powerful superheroes in comics.

those top 10 guys have super powers and make them not able to feel pain so it isnt a fair comparison

Spider-Man has powers too, you know.

 

[Jplaya2023]

It would have been more if it included those two.



Batman had his back broken. It's in continuity still. Again, you're in denial.



Spider-Man: The Other is in continuity as well.



Because they're most definitely not among the most powerful superheroes in comics.



Spider-Man has powers too, you know.

spiderman doesnt have invulnerbility like those other guys have.

again its not a valid comparison.

its like giving a grownup extra props because his pain threshold is higher than a 2 year olds.

ludacris.

 

[CBG]

spiderman doesnt have invulnerbility like those other guys have.

However, he still has heightened durability, at least above the average human.

again its not a valid comparison.

its like giving a grownup extra props because his pain threshold is higher than a 2 year olds.

ludacris.

And that each of the characters on the list have more useful powers and abilities at their disposal than Spider-Man's spider-themed powers.

 

[Jplaya2023]

And that each of the characters on the list have more useful powers and abilities at their disposal than Spider-Man's spider-themed powers.

its not valid. Chars are not on equal footing.

give spiderman and batman those same powers and abilities and they trample everyone in dc and marvel.

no questions asked.

without the super powers superman is an average male.

 

[CBG]

its not valid. Chars are not on equal footing.

give spiderman and batman those same powers and abilities and they trample everyone in dc and marvel.

Actually, you're wrong.

Even with said powers, there are still scores of characters they would lose to.

no questions asked.

without the super powers superman is an average male.

Recently, more or less.

Prior to OYL, he was quite capable, actually.

 

[fifthfiend]

Exactly. The Surfer's a go-with-the-flow type. BP grabbed his arm and was all, "A-HA! I have you now!!" Sure, the Surfer was thinking "lolz, whatever," but he struggled and whined a bit to make BP think he had control of the situation, hoping he would be more open to listening to the Surfer's explanation.

I guess it's a lot easier to get past ego when you have no discernable genitalia.

 

[Ultra-Herald9]

I guess it's a lot easier to get past ego when you have no discernable genitalia.

He stores it in a pocket dimension just in case.t:







Wouldn't that be creepy?

 

[Silicon Surfer]

I suppose it would be convenient though, they wouldn't get smashed.

 

[bloodyarts]

Ummm....have you ever read thast issue? Surfer in no part in that issue is even close to beating Thor, and Thor was holding back through the whole story. I'm talking about SS (first series) #3.

Well then you're not talking about the Thor fight because the Surfer vs. Thor fight happened in Issue #4...

And yeah, Loki was ADDING his power to Surfer's, and Thor was holding back. And Thor STILL won, although to be fair, Surfer wasn't exactly going all out, either.

 

[shapeshifter]

no spiderman, not batman?

list is an absolute joke.

batman had his back broken in a non canon issue of him fighting bane.

spiderman was also "supposedely" killed by morloun in another non canon fight.

how is that overlooked?

those top 10 guys have super powers and make them not able to feel pain so it isnt a fair comparison

I might be one of the biggest batman fans out there, and even I have to admit that the silver surfer would turn him into a stain on the ground before he even knew what was happening.
Spider-man would be lucky to get one smart ass remark out before he was vaporized.
its a shame, but its the way it goes.

 

[Kurosawa]

My memory ain't so good when it comes to the JiM stuff. I've only read most of it once, or I'm still procrastinating on even reading it the first time. It's tough to read those comics after you've gotten used to modern comics.

And no. You've burned your bridges here, missy.

i'm just the opposite-I have a hard time stomaching modern comics after I read Lee/Kirby stuff. Today's stuff just doesn't stand up, and the tone and person gets old after awhile. Although so of it I like.

 

[fifthfiend]

no spiderman, not batman?

list is an absolute joke.

batman had his back broken in a non canon issue of him fighting bane.

spiderman was also "supposedely" killed by morloun in another non canon fight.

how is that overlooked?

those top 10 guys have super powers and make them not able to feel pain so it isnt a fair comparison

That was equisite. A true Jplaya classic.

Would that I could only bottle and seal such posts safely away, that I might open and savor them anew once age has deepened their inimitable bouquet.

 

[Jplaya2023]

I might be one of the biggest batman fans out there, and even I have to admit that the silver surfer would turn him into a stain on the ground before he even knew what was happening.
Spider-man would be lucky to get one smart ass remark out before he was vaporized.
its a shame, but its the way it goes.

you're overatting the SS. Batman would just build or borror the ultimate nullifier and kill surfer that way. Spiderman in his armored suit would impale surfer as well.

 

[CBG]

you're overatting the SS.

Nope. You're the one who's overrating here, specifically Batman and Spider-Man.

Batman would just build or borror the ultimate nullifier and kill the surfer

Now you're bias and fanboy roots are starting to show.

1) Batman has no idea how to even start.

2) The Ultimate Nullifier is a part of Galactus, who can recall it back to himself.

3) The Ultimate Nullifier is Marvel Comics.

Silver Surfer > Batman.

Spiderman in his armored suit would impale surfer as well.

Again, you're bias and fanboy roots are showing.

Iron Spidey or even his own Spider Stingers (acquired in The Other) would utterly fail to pierce Surfer.

Silver Surfer > Spider-Man.

 

[Docker2.0]

I honestly understand why Wizard had Spidey losing. Through out Spidey's history he's KNOWN to make mistakes, Lee made him that way, it's his way of growing into the hero role. Batman is known as one who analyzes weaknesses and mistakes. Spidey SHOULD destroy Batman, we've all seen times when Spidey has been beaten by Daredevil, struggled with Cap and the Vulture is a old dude who can fly. So.........I can see their reasoning.

 

[Jplaya2023]

I honestly understand why Wizard had Spidey losing. Through out Spidey's history he's KNOWN to make mistakes, Lee made him that way, it's his way of growing into the hero role. Batman is known as one who analyzes weaknesses and mistakes. Spidey SHOULD destroy Batman, we've all seen times when Spidey has been beaten by Daredevil, struggled with Cap and the Vulture is a old dude who can fly. So.........I can see their reasoning.

sometimes stan lee powers down spiderman and doesnt have him win all the time same with batman. They do this to keep fan interest and fans not always knowing batman and spiderman will win.

best examples are non canon fights in which batman and spiderman lost to bane and a guy named morloun.

 

[Eros]

sometimes stan lee powers down spiderman and doesnt have him win all the time same with batman. They do this to keep fan interest and fans not always knowing batman and spiderman will win.

best examples are non canon fights in which batman and spiderman lost to bane and a guy named morloun.

Morloun kicked spider-man ass becasue he was superior, and that was canon dude.

 

[Jplaya2023]

Morloun kicked spider-man ass becasue he was superior, and that was canon dude.

Negative, stan lee made spiderman fight poorly, thus causing him to lose. Fans pressured Lee because spiderman always won, and lee decided to throw a curveball at fans and write some non canon that involved spiderman losing.

dont think anything of it

 

[Jplaya2023]

Nope. You're the one who's overrating here, specifically Batman and Spider-Man.



Now you're bias and fanboy roots are starting to show.

1) Batman has no idea how to even start.

2) The Ultimate Nullifier is a part of Galactus, who can recall it back to himself.

3) The Ultimate Nullifier is Marvel Comics.

Silver Surfer > Batman.



Again, you're bias and fanboy roots are showing.

Iron Spidey or even his own Spider Stingers (acquired in The Other) would utterly fail to pierce Surfer.

Silver Surfer > Spider-Man.

*sigh*

Since you refuse to acknowledge that i'm correct, let me show you some canon that should change your mind.

Take a look at the following scans........

got a good look. Good!

Now, the figure Silver Surfer is fighting is a guy name thanos. He is a decent C level enemy that is only effective with whats called an infinity gauntlett. Now...

Notice how easily that slow rugged thanos was owning Surfer. Barely expended energy and threw all those slow azz punches. If surfer was fighting a speedster like batman or spiderman, for every 1 punch slow thanos throws batman and spiderman would be hitting surfer 5+ times in that same span because they have superior battle speed.

Now you might say "waaaaaahh thanos is stronger than batman and spiderman". To which i would respond with true for the most part, but remember this. Batman knows every form of martial arts there is and has a sense of Ki control. He can make his punches kicks etc.. super human in terms of ferocity and power if he chooses to.

Spiderman has super strength and superior H2H combat skills and holds back when he fights for fear of killing his opponents. They wouldnt hold back fighting SS thus would do the same thing thanos did, except they would not be bringing him back.

Thanks for your time.

 

[CBG]

sometimes stan lee powers down spiderman and doesnt have him win all the time same with batman.

Stan Lee isn't a employee at Marvel anymore.

Heck, if you read Amazing Fantasy #15, the issue Spider-Man debut, he's weaker than his current incarnation.

Batman, the same. Heck, he even carried a gun initially.

They do this to keep fan interest and fans not always knowing batman and spiderman will win.

And in the accurate portrayal of the character.

best examples are non canon fights in which batman and spiderman lost to bane and a guy named morloun.

You're again in major denial.

They're canon. Don't bother trying to argue against true continuity.

Negative, stan lee made spiderman fight poorly, thus causing him to lose.

1) Stan Lee didn't write the other.

2) Stan Lee isn't an employee at Marvel anymore.

Fans pressured Lee because spiderman always won, and lee decided to throw a curveball at fans and write some non canon that involved spiderman losing.

dont think anything of it

Again, you're denying canon.

And again, Stan Lee had no involvement in The Other -- he sure as heck didn't write it.

 

[CBG]

*sigh*

Since you refuse to acknowledge that i'm correct,

Because you're dead wrong.

let me show you some canon that should change your mind.

Take a look at the following scans........

Which you ripped off from someone else, most likely.

got a good look. Good!

Now, the figure Silver Surfer is fighting is a guy name thanos. He is a decent C level enemy that is only effective with whats called an infinity gauntlett. Now...

Now, you should read up your comics and see why Thanos wouldn't bother in a pathetic confrontation against Batman and Spider-Man.

Notice how easily that slow rugged thanos was owning Surfer. Barely expended energy and threw all those slow azz punches. If surfer was fighting a speedster like batman or spiderman,

Who aren't speedsters at all.

They're not Flash.

for every 1 punch slow thanos throws batman and spiderman would be hitting surfer 5+ times in that same span because they have superior battle speed.

But utterly ineffective, because each of their strength is pitiful against the Surfer, more so for the human Batman is.

Both punch, and break their hand. Like Batman almost does when punching Clark back in Death in the Family and Hush by his own admission, even wearing KEVLAR-protected gloves + Kryptonite Ring.

Now you might say "waaaaaahh thanos is stronger than batman and spiderman". To which i would respond with true for the most part, but remember this. Batman knows every form of martial arts there

Which utterly does little.

and has a sense of Ki control.

Scans.

He can make his punches kicks etc.. super human in terms of ferocity and power if he chooses to.

Scans.

Spiderman has super strength and superior H2H combat skills and holds back when he fights for fear of killing his opponents. They wouldnt hold back fighting SS thus would do the same thing thanos did, except they would not be bringing him back.

And Spider-Man all out would still be pathetic against Thanos.

Thanks for your time.

In correcting your mistakes and bias? Always a pleasure.

 

[Jplaya2023]

Stan Lee isn't a employee at Marvel anymore.

Heck, if you read Amazing Fantasy #15, the issue Spider-Man debut, he's weaker than his current incarnation.

Batman, the same. Heck, he even carried a gun initially.



And in the accurate portrayal of the character.



You're again in major denial.

They're canon. Don't bother trying to argue against true continuity.



1) Stan Lee didn't write the other.

2) Stan Lee isn't an employee at Marvel anymore.



Again, you're denying canon.

And again, Stan Lee had no involvement in The Other -- he sure as heck didn't write it.

I knew it, since stan didnt write it its non canon by default. I was just testing to see your knowledge on the subject

 

[CBG]

I knew it, since stan didnt write it its non canon by default.

And going by that logic, since Batman creators Bob Kane and Bill Finger are long dead, neither is any Batman story after they no longer had any creative control over the character. Which means Batman's "canon" incarnation according to you is wearing his original suit and wields a gun and lets criminals die.

The Other is canon. Stop denying it.

I was just testing to see your knowledge on the subject

Which is by far, superior to yours, due to your misconceptions and bias.