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This will dethrone Avatar at the top, assuming of course "Book of Eli" doesn't do it.
 
Darth Elektra said:
'Wolfman' Troubles?

This week, the Internet was afire with more bad buzz regarding the troubled "Wolfman" film that is to be released next month. However, Ain't It Cool News was able to clarify the matter.

Here is what they said:

Earlier this afternoon, I started getting emails from Universal insisting that The Playlist's main contention - that Universal Co-Chair Donna Langley is overseeing a studio cut of the THE WOLFMAN - is incorrect. I just got off the phone with producer Scott Stuber, and he has assured me that they have settled on a cut (which tested strongly back in November), and are now in the process of mixing, getting the final f/x and dropping in credits. Here are the particulars according to Stuber:

1) It was (director) Joe Johnston's idea to bring in editor Walter Murch after the spring '09 reshoots to supply a "fresh perspective" and, most importantly, get the film in shape. Stuber had nothing but praise for Dennis Virkler's work, and insisted this was all about getting a new pair of eyes.

2) Murch did the bulk of the work. Mark Goldblatt was only on for three or four weeks to assist with a complicated London set piece.

3) Moving the release date from November to February was all about finishing the f/x, particularly in that London sequence.

4) Per Stuber: "The thing about Donna [Langley]... they weren't really involved in that stuff. They knew [what we were] doing, and they were supportive of it, but there's never been an editing room that was sanctioned by the studio against the filmmakers."

5) The dual test screenings in November were not dueling test screenings. "There were sequences or pieces that we wanted to try differently," said Stuber. "And we did them back-to-back so we could watch them." Basically, it was all about rhythm and pacing. Nothing major. By the way, they've got their R-rating from the MPAA, so don't worry about that being rescinded.

6) The future of Universal's other "Classic Monsters" is not contingent on the success of THE WOLFMAN. Each of these projects is its own entity, and they all have little to do with one another.

Overall, Stuber sounded pleased with the film. Obviously, he's relieved that this multi-year odyssey is coming to a close, but everything seems to be coming together.
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Sounds good. Can't wait for this :up:
 
Dr. Evil said:
This will dethrone Avatar at the top, assuming of course "Book of Eli" doesn't do it.
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Record wise? No chance in HELL that's gonna happen. # 1 in the Box Office? Probably, but most likely Book of Eli will be there first before this. Book of Eli's out THIS FRIDAY. This movie's not out for another month, so don't bet the farm that it'll get to #1 BEFORE Book of Eli. That's not gonna happen.:dry:
 
Well, no **** it's not gonna beat it record wise. He didn't mean it like that.

He simpy meant it's going to knock Avatar off the number 1.
 
Doctor Jones said:
Well, no **** it's not gonna beat it record wise. He didn't mean it like that.

He simpy meant it's going to knock Avatar off the number 1.
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Yep. That's what I meant. Although if Book of Eli does it, than that's fine too.
 
Book of Eli looks pretty good. I'm curious to see how well that will do. It could have a good opening weekend, but might drop off.
 
I saw the trailer for this while watching sherlock holmes, not a fan of horror but I'm really looking forward to this and the Book of Eli.
 
Erundur said:
I saw the trailer for this while watching sherlock holmes, not a fan of horror but I'm really looking forward to this and the Book of Eli.
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Agreed. I'm planning on seeing Book of Eli on Friday. Will let you guys know how it is. Sound good?
 
Dr. Evil said:
This will dethrone Avatar at the top, assuming of course "Book of Eli" doesn't do it.
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Well, some movie will.. soon or later. Even if its a bad and/or small movie. AS time goes by, chances to lose 1st spot increase.
 
Sam said:
Well, some movie will.. soon or later. Even if its a bad and/or small movie. AS time goes by, chances to lose 1st spot increase.
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Whatever. Joe Johnston's one of my favorite directors. I hope this movie will be as good as it looks!:cwink:
 
CrimsonMist said:
I hated Coppola's Dracula. Everything up to the point where Dracula opens the door to his castle is fine, barring Keanu Reeves. After that, it goes straight to hell. The sappy romance(as I've said, romance lies within the human characters, not with Dracula.), Dracula's huge hair and really silly costume, Van Helsing being a crackpot loony, the wolf-rape thing...ugh. The list never ends. My problem lies with the fact that the guy who wrote it, James V. Hart, just assumed that because Dracula was hundreds of years old, he must be lonely and that's why there's romance. No. Dracula isn't lonely. He's an evil vicious bastard. He does what he does not because he's cursed to do so, or has a broken heart, but simply because he can and he enjoys doing it. I think the film really missed the point of the novel by switching it around like that.

Dracula 2000 was interesting. The Judas Iscariot thing was especially fascinating. The day we get a faithful adaptation of the book on the big screen is the day I die a happy man(after seeing it at least 5 times first).

I could have sworn the article said the middle section of the film, but I may be mistaken. Regardless, I do agree, that even if it isn't amazing, it'll still be good and better than most.

Long films I have no problems with. It's really subjective though if a film is long. I thought Watchmen, after sitting in the theater, should have been LONGER. The ultimate cut of the film is great. The Lord of The Rings films caused me some unrest as well. I only went to see them for Christopher Lee, and I'm sure you can imagine the rage I felt upon, after being coerced into seeing the third film, seeing NO CHRISTOPHER LEE!:cmad: But it'll just seem like wasted opportunity to release a mediocre 80 minute film, just to release a 120 minute extended DVD that sells like hotcakes.

Back to Crossovers. I don't know. I was thinking about this last night and came to the conclusion that there's gonna be an underlying sense of camp regardless of how they make it. It also comes down to how they handle Dracula and Frankenstein. If they adapt the novels, they're gonna have to pull some major creativity to make it work. Dracula in the book is an uber-powerful horrible, intelligent being and Frankenstein's Monster is an uber-powerful misunderstood being who is very intelligent. The monster won't fall for that "I Wanna be your friend" crap. But speaking of which, back in the 40's, Universal toyed around with making a Wolfman vs Dracula film as the first sequel to "The Wolfman". It was to be shot in technicolor and Universal considered Lugosi for Dracula again. I'm hazy on plot details, but Dracula was supposed to fight as a giant bat monster. They didn't really know how to pull it off so they scrapped it and made Arabian Nights instead. For those interested, www.bearmaniamedia.com is releasing a series of script books by Philip J. Riley about the abandoned Universal horror films. They're being released in the same format as Riley's other books about the produced Universal Horror films which are out of print and hard to find(but so very worth every penny. I have Dracula and Frankenstein. Both are fascinating to read.) You get the script, lots of pictures and information about what was going on during the development and production stages.

Bear Manor Media has currently released the book for "Dracula's Daughter" had James Whale directed it using the script he and Bride of Frankenstein co-writer R.C. Sheriff had written. They've also just released the book for "Cogliostro" which was intended to be a vehicle for Karloff that later evolved into "The Mummy". Next year, in January I think, they're releasing the "Wolfman vs Dracula". After that, from what I understand, they intend to release what was originally going to be "Werewolf of London" with Lugosi and Karloff considered for the role for Dr. Landon that went to Henry Hull(i HOPE HOPE HOPE that it includes the treatment for a wolfman movie that Robert Florey wrote in the mid-30's that was eventually scrapped in favor for Curt Siodmack's story that we all know). Also coming I think will be the first script treatment/script for Dracula that was much more faithful to the book and written for Lon Chaney Sr. All cool stuff. Be sure to check them out if you can and try to track down all of Philip J. Riley's other Universal Horror books he did for MagicImage. It's worth it.

as for Guillermo Del Toro, I want At The Mountains of Madness to be the first thing he tackles after The Hobbit. Then Hellboy 3. After that, he can do whatever the hell he wants.
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Yo! CrimsonMist!
Sorry it has taken so long to respond to this post. I have been down and out, but now I am back.
As always, buddy, you are unmatched with your knowledge of classic horror. Hats off to you!
I love learning great facts from you, your posts are always a joy to read.
I am going to pick up "Wolf man vs Dracula" that sounds like a seriously fun read. Thanks for the heads up!


So, here we are...exactly one month to the day of the release of WOLF MAN!
aaaaAAaWWOOOOOO!
 
I hope it is worth the wait, the more I hear about this production, the increasingly worried I get. Well, that and they use that one odd looking CG transformation face in trailers & promotions, and less of the phenomenal Rick Baker make-up.
 
Praise the Gods, it's R! I know it's obvious, but hearing and seeing "rated R" is a great thing.
 
So, we should start to see reviews pop up soon. I was really psyched for this film last year, but all the talk about production troubles (most notably Rick Bakers issues with the over use of CG) has me kind of hesitant to see this now.
 
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