Wolfman-The Offical Thread

[Rac]

Frankenstein will be based off some Koontz novels and they would use "synthetic biology" , also make it modern day.

That's not with Universal, but 1019 Entertainment. Universal's new Frankenstein film will be made by Guillermo del Toro.

 

[CrimsonMist]

That's a good thing it has nothing to do with Dracula. He only inspired the legend/story. Hopefully it's fairly accurate and shows how what he was really like.

With Sam Worthington cast as Dracula, you can bet that his Dracula won't be eating dinner outside his castle surrounded by hundreds of impaled bodies. In all likelihood, the Dracula of "Dracula: Year Zero" is going to be a real wuss compared the historical Vlad Tepes and the fictionalized Vlad Tepes of Stoker's novel(a ruthless warlord who becomes a master of black arts and is able to bring himself back to life as a vampire, and mind you a vicious evil one who kills women and children because HE CAN, not because Winona Ryder left him for Keanu Reeves and he's distraught.)

 

[CrimsonMist]

I hope so too. The Wolfman may not have done well enough to greenlgiht itself a sequel. It cost $150 million to make. But first this may be okay because bringing Lawrence back might be cheesy and the end of the first taught us we should not hope for another monster mash a la 1943's Frankenstein Meets the Wolf Man. But if it was about Hugo Weaving as a werewolf I'd be game.

But it opened really well with $35 million for opening weekend. I hope Universal is not discouraged to not return to classic gothic horror. The lesson is make sure you have a solid movie going into production that will not need reshoots, rewrites, re-edits, new scores, new CGI. Man when you look at it, it's a miracle The Wolfman wasn't Van Helsing-level bad.

But if they can make a sequel or another Universal classic horror-style film for around $80 to $90 million, they could have some real successful films on their hands.


Anyway, I heard there are like three competing versions of Frankenstein in the works. I heard that the director of Pan's Labyrinth (Del Toro) wants to do one after he completes The Hobbit. Given his style on Pan's, Universal should put him on the fast track to do one in a gothic setting for them. There is that bad modern day one you mentioned and apparently Universal is just skipping doing Frankenstein and trying to remake The Bride of Frankenstein. I don't know about that. First you should introduce Dr. Frankenstein and his monster first, IMO. Second, while The Wolf Man (1941) was my favorite Universal horror, James Whale's 1935 classic (Bride) is easily the best of these films. It is so intelligently made, so subversive and as much a dark comedy as a horror movie...a remake seems almost impossible to pull off. And since Wolfman didn't reach the bar, I dunno.


Dracula, I haven't heard much. But Dracula: Year Zero sounds terrible. I say ditch it and make a Dracula film that adapts the book faithfully with some Universal iconography. That'd be the best decision, IMO. But who knows what Universal is thinking.

But Wolfman showed these films can be successful if they keep the budget costs down. Indeed.

Guilermo Del Toro has said that his Frankenstein wouldn't be a remake, nor would it be an adaptation of the novel, but that it would be a huge action/adventure type gothic horror film that combines elements of what we've seen before. I'm all down for that. If The Hobbit is a huge success, you can count on Universal giving Del Toro a bigger budget for Frankenstein. And if that's a success? I'd expect the budget for Dracula, if it ever goes anywhere, to get bigger as well. But hey, before Frankenstein, Del Toro better damn make "At The Mountains of Madness" first. I think he actually is planning to do that after The Hobbit. The screen has yet to have a great, faithful H.P. Lovecraft film on it. I think Del Toro's the man do it and do it right.

 

[El Payaso]

James Whale's 1935 classic (Bride) is easily the best of these films. It is so intelligently made, so subversive and as much a dark comedy as a horror movie...a remake seems almost impossible to pull off. And since Wolfman didn't reach the bar, I dunno.

Oh, I absolutely agree. I can't talk enough goodness about that movie.

That's not with Universal, but 1019 Entertainment. Universal's new Frankenstein film will be made by Guillermo del Toro.

Please, not Del Toro.

 

[cryptic name]

Oh, I absolutely agree. I can't talk enough goodness about that movie.



Please, not Del Toro.

dude...what?

 

[El Payaso]

dude...what?

Hellboy 2... that. (And to a certain extent the first one too).

 

[cryptic name]

Hellboy 2... that. (And to a certain extent the first one too).

really? huh. well taste is taste i suppose. did you see Pan's Labyrinth?

 

[Nivek]

Whatever, this type of film is what Guillermo del Toro is born to make.

All I ask is, Universal has the rights to the likeness, I say do the CLASSIC depiction of Frankenstein. Square head, bolts in neck, greenish skin, big boots, 8 feet tall... not that Van Helsing revisionist crap with pistons and lights and crap....

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Hellboy 2... that. (And to a certain extent the first one too).

Hellboy 2 was a peice of s**t but I like most of his movies quite a bit. I think he would do a good serious Frankenstein movie.

 

[CrimsonMist]

Whatever, this type of film is what Guillermo del Toro is born to make.

All I ask is, Universal has the rights to the likeness, I say do the CLASSIC depiction of Frankenstein. Square head, bolts in neck, greenish skin, big boots, 8 feet tall... not that Van Helsing revisionist crap with pistons and lights and crap....

Del Toro has said that he would use the design that Berni Wrightson created for his illustrated edition of Frankenstein. I think it looks cool. Google Image that thing. It's great looking.

 

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http://www.latinoreview.com/news/open-letter-to-universal-your-wolfman-ripped-off-twilight-9247

Taylor Lautner Fan Letter To Universal: Your Wolfman Ripped Off Twilight
By George 'El Guapo' Roush on February 18, 2010


I don't print reader's letters to me because most of them contain words and insults that are unfit to print. However, once in a while a golden ticket will come into my inbox that is not only worth reading, it's worth sharing with the world.

The e-mail was from Kayla Patterson, a die hard Twilight/Taylor Lautner fan upset about Universal Pictures ripping off the werewolf idea from Twilight. That's right, Universal Studios, who first put werewolves in theaters, are a bunch of copycats.

Here is the e-mail, unedited and untouched (including pictures), which clearly puts Universal Pictures in their place.

To whom this may concern:

This movie was a complete waste and I feel that it offends ALL Twilight Fans around the world, that including myself. For one, it was a COMPLETE remaking of the Wolf Pack from the Twilight Saga: New Moon. It gives the werewolves a bad name and makes them look like some deformed mutation of a rabid dog. I actually started to like werewolves after seeing Jacob Black and all his awesomeness on the big screen at the movies. That was until I saw your crappy remake of what you call to be a "were wolf". I don't see how you live with yourself for making it the way you did. If I made this movie, I would be ashamed to even admit that I owned it. How can a werewolf be killed with a silver bullet? Better yet, have you saw the transformation of the man that is "supposed" to be the wolf? He sits in some chair and his entire body turns in to some mutated freak. If you would watch the transformation of Jacob Black, (Taylor Lautner) he doesn't come close to looking as fake, cheap and or mutated as the wolf man. You tell me, who looks to be the better werewolf. Your stupid Wolf Movie didn't even make the top Movie for the charts; Valentines Day WITH TAYLOR Lautner! Get that this is MY oppinion and I felt I wanted to express it because I saw that your email was on your site. I wanted to let you know this is what i thought of the wolf man that sucks.
FREAKIN LAUTNER DID!

The Poser of who could never be even if they tried : " Aka : Rabid poser Werewolf "The Wolf Man"

OR My favorite: Taylor Daniel Lautner aka Jacob Black

TEAM JACOB- cuz hes a REAL WEREWOLVE!

Regards: Kayla Patterson

 

[BLACK-SPIDEY]

Twilight fans are so stupid.

 

[Sam]

Thos stupid fans just make me hate more and more Twilight saga.

What a bunch of idiots.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

That's so fake, but still funny!lol

No middle/high-schooler in this day in age would start a letter off with "to whom this may concern"

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

So a made up letter is news over at Latino Review?

 

[Darth Elektra]

Please, not Del Toro.

I couldn't disagree more. I think Del Toro would have the perfect vision for a great Frankenstein movie!

 

[Matt Mortem]

Wow, I hope to hell that Twilight letter was fake otherwise I may finally give up all hope for humanity.

 

[redhawk23]

Guilermo Del Toro has said that his Frankenstein wouldn't be a remake, nor would it be an adaptation of the novel, but that it would be a huge action/adventure type gothic horror film that combines elements of what we've seen before. I'm all down for that. If The Hobbit is a huge success, you can count on Universal giving Del Toro a bigger budget for Frankenstein. And if that's a success? I'd expect the budget for Dracula, if it ever goes anywhere, to get bigger as well. But hey, before Frankenstein, Del Toro better damn make "At The Mountains of Madness" first. I think he actually is planning to do that after The Hobbit. The screen has yet to have a great, faithful H.P. Lovecraft film on it. I think Del Toro's the man do it and do it right.

Del Toro claims pre production has already started with designs and some new computere code for rendering shoggoths. sounds pretty rediculous

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

It was fake.

As a somewhat (I realize how silly the franchise is and the fact that the movies and books aren't "good") Twilight fan it never fails to amaze me how much hatred the series garners because it mostly appeals to females.

That fake letter was so pointless and was just made up by that website to stir up the loonies in the Twilight fansbase. It maybe would have been interesting enough for me to read if it weren't so random and pointless.

Then again Latino Review thought that GI JOE was a better movie than Star Trek and talks crudely about Megan Fox because she is far from a good actress. Decent Website sometimes but I wish they'd grow up a little.

How about an actual article about The f**king Wolfman movie?

 

[DACrowe]

well as long as Del Toro's take is closer to Pan's Labyrinth than his superhero movies. I enjoyed Blade II. But Blade II is not Frankenstein. Pan's Labyrinth and not Blade II.

But as The Hobbit is 2012 and then he has another sci-fi epic after that, he wouldn't get around to Frankenstein until 2014 at least. Universal I'd imagine would like to rev up. Well if Wolfman 2 could cost less than $90 million, maybe that will happen.

I also think Creature from the Black Lagoon could either make a great sloshy B-horror movie (think of the epic trailer now) or it could be really, really cheesy. It could be Sleepy Hollow (or like the Wolfman movie promised in trailers) or it could be Deep Blue Sea.


Dracula. Ugh, Dracula: Year Zero. So this is going to be Clash of the Titans except with fangs? Ugh. Coppola's prologue was enough for me and probably better than this film concept could ever be. I would like a faithful adaptation of the book with some of Universal's classic staples or just don't bother.

So, I guess Universal just has Creature and possibly a Wolfman sequel in the oven right now. Or the move on from Del Toro. Because Frankenstein is obviously the next big one to do, as the last major Frankenstein movie (Branagh's '94 film) was a critical and financial bomb. So, we'll see. Indeed.

 

[DACrowe]

double

 

[Dr.Dude]

Just got back from this an hour ago. I have to admit, as a fan of all the old Universal horror films, I was pretty damn impressed. It really reminded me, for the first time in a long time, of just how much I love horror flicks when they're done right. Sure, it follows all the old cliches but it does it in an effective, conscious way and makes one remember why these cliches worked in the first place.

But hey, before Frankenstein, Del Toro better damn make "At The Mountains of Madness" first. I think he actually is planning to do that after The Hobbit.

I hope so. If there's one Lovecraft story that I think would really work on the big screen, it's that. I also agree that Del Toro is the man to do it; a lot of directors would turn the Shoggoths into cheap-looking black blobs but I think Del Toro would be able to make them as sick and horrific as they need to be.

 

[spider-neil]

that letter is either fake or written by the dumbest person on the planet

 

[El Payaso]

really? huh. well taste is taste i suppose. did you see Pan's Labyrinth?

I saw Pan's once and while the acting was superb I could never see fantasy and reality as opposite sides of the same universe (the fiction Del Toro was supposed to create). Instead I saw two completely different styles from two completely different movies. Enjoyable but messy if you want.

And I couldn't feel for Ofelia. Her story was sad as hell but the character itself lacked of any appeal.

Hellboy 2 was a peice of s**t but I like most of his movies quite a bit. I think he would do a good serious Frankenstein movie.

I haven't seen every movie of him, but he works perfectly as a creator of monsters. As a director he embodies what they call "style over substance," only in this case is style over [almost] nothing.

I couldn't disagree more. I think Del Toro would have the perfect vision for a great Frankenstein movie!

I'm sure the visuals will be great.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Have you seen Pans Labyrinth then? Style and substance is to be found in that film. It's a touching dark fairytale.