Wolverine has a script and move on to production, Thor doesn't?

[chiefchirpa]

Wow, what the hell happen with Marvel Studio management? Fox picked up the director much later than Marvel picked up Matthew Vaughn, yet Fox is set to go with Wolverine shooting in early 2008. Marvel Studio has an issue with the script and before the script is set & done, they're already getting busy with the actors. Not mentioning Marvel still talks about Luke Cage, Ant Man, Namor, etc months before. Yes, all about the smaller movies that sap its focus on the bigger movies.

Oh vey. Talk about not setting straight the priorities.

 

[2star]

Wolverine is an established character/property within the public eye and has a current fanbase, they need to capitalise while he's still in peoples minds. Thor has none of these things...

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

Wow, what the hell happen with Marvel Studio management? Fox picked up the director much later than Marvel picked up Matthew Vaughn, yet Fox is set to go with Wolverine shooting in early 2008. Marvel Studio has an issue with the script and before the script is set & done, they're already getting busy with the actors. Not mentioning Marvel still talks about Luke Cage, Ant Man, Namor, etc months before. Yes, all about the smaller movies that sap its focus on the bigger movies.

Oh vey. Talk about not setting straight the priorities.

I thought Marvel loved the script?

 

[chiefchirpa]

Loved the script (and many people said it's a good script), but said way overbudget. The thing is they just review the script right before the strike, not months before so there's time to edited and production could go on early next year.

 

[Artistsean]

Also Wolverine already has Hugh Jackman.
And they want to use him whie they still have him signed to play Wolverine and while he is young enough for it.

 

[odiin]

The strike didn't get to Wolverine, but it did Thor.

 

[chiefchirpa]

I just saw Stardust, and it's a very good tightly packed 2 hours film edited from a 10-11 hours script. Who edited Neil Gaiman's script? None other than Matt Vaughn. Now if Marvel has an amiable relationship with Protosevich, it's possible that Thor can move on while Matt Vaughn can edit the script along the way.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

Im just curious....the script was done BEFORE the writers strike, so how is the strike holding up Thor's production? Does it effect writers from Europe as well, because i remember Vaughn saying that's where he wanted to work...

 

[chiefchirpa]

The script is already done, but it asks for a $ 300 mil budget. So there needs to be some editing. Matt Vaughn with an aid of his friend does the editing of original screenplay Stardust, so why not here too?

I don't think it affects British script writers but out of peer solidarity there would be some hindrance to it.

 

[odiin]

It may have been finished, but it wasn't finished. Changes need to be made even up to and during filming. Once an director is chosen he or she will alter the script as they see fit, and then as each actor is chosen the script will again need to be altered to fit the actors strength, and then it will be altered even further when they are actually be it because the director comes up with an interesting new idea, or once they start filming they realize certain things don't work, aren't practical, or don't translate well from paper to live action, add on to the the budget problems they had to deal with on this particular film, the fact that they didn't even have a lead actor, and that they were being rushed into filming anyway to try and beat the strike. It's obvious they weren't as prepared as they would have liked to be at this stage, so they've decided to wait it out.

Beyond all of that though, the most important thing to remember is that that no development on two films is ever the same. You can't say A is doing this, so B should be doing this right now, it doesn't work that way. They're two totally different situations.

 

[odiin]

I don't think it affects British script writers but out of peer solidarity there would be some hindrance to it.

regardless of where the film is shot, or the writer's nationality, this is still a Hollywood production backed by an American movie studio. Guild rules still apply.

If that weren't the case then all the currently stalled film and television prodcutions could just go "Say what, the writers are striking? Who cares, let's just grab some British writers and continue on like nothing happened."

 

[chiefchirpa]

It may have been finished, but it wasn't finished. Changes need to be made even up to and during filming. Once an director is chosen he or she will alter the script as they see fit, and then as each actor is chosen the script will again need to be altered to fit the actors strength, and then it will be altered even further when they are actually be it because the director comes up with an interesting new idea, or once they start filming they realize certain things don't work, aren't practical, or don't translate well from paper to live action, add on to the the budget problems they had to deal with on this particular film, the fact that they didn't even have a lead actor, and that they were being rushed into filming anyway to try and beat the strike. It's obvious they weren't as prepared as they would have liked to be at this stage, so they've decided to wait it out.

Beyond all of that though, the most important thing to remember is that that no development on two films is ever the same. You can't say A is doing this, so B should be doing this right now, it doesn't work that way. They're two totally different situations.

The core of the matter is Marvel Studio is simply not prepared with Thor in terms of script. If they have done the script right well before the strike, then finding actors, making production sets, and even finding the director can be done well after the strike. Wolverine can go on with a script made right before the strike started and modifications of the script can still be made since production has not started yet. But with Wolverine, the base script is ready. With Thor, it's not.

So it's not a matter if they have an actor or not. It has to do with the script and solely the script.

 

[Antonello Blueberry]

regardless of where the film is shot, or the writer's nationality, this is still a Hollywood production backed by an American movie studio. Guild rules still apply.

Maybe or maybe not. I have in my hands the latest draft of a movie to be shot next year and the last revision was done after the strike began.
And by a major Hollywood screenwriter.

 

[Lord Voldemort]

Let's be real. They are more likely to make money with a Wolverine movie than with a Thor film.

 

[chiefchirpa]

Let's be real. They are more likely to make money with a Wolverine movie than with a Thor film.

Who are they, do you mean Marvel?

Marvel makes more money with Thor than Wolverine, because Marvel Studios makes Thor and Fox makes Wolverine.

 

[Lord Voldemort]

Who are they, do you mean Marvel?

Marvel makes more money with Thor than Wolverine, because Marvel Studios makes Thor and Fox makes Wolverine.

They, son! Wolverine = guaranteed return on investment, considering how established he is in film lore nowadays. Women awn over jackman and little boys buy this action figures and games. The character is more acceptable in the public domain.

Whereas they, the other they, are going to be reluctant to push through a thor film which is less likely to appeal to anyone other than fanboys. So the strike is a good excuse to halt production on riskier products.